Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley…

[TKKnicks1]

Precious is a better player in every aspect except defense. He does give up height though.

[TheGreenArrow]

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Sims sanity is upon us Folkssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Guano]

We can thank this man for Mitch being out until possibly 2025:

is he the owner of the waffle house near mitch's pad?

[Capn'O]

Could I interest NYK in one or more of PORs 4 centers?

Ayton and picks for Randle

Zero interest in Randle.

Figured NYK wouldn’t want RW3 because of his perpetual injuries, thought maybe Reath for a couple SRP might work for both sides.

We'd also struggle to match salary with Williams and we're over the apron (2nd now?). Reath, we could match pretty easily.

That said, I only pretend to understand the new cap restrictions.

[Iron Mantis]

Could I interest NYK in one or more of PORs 4 centers?

Ayton and picks for Randle

Zero interest in Randle.

[R-DAWG]

Small sample size but in lineups where Brunson/Randle/Achiuwa shared the floor the Knicks were +17.4.
Randle/Achiuwa was +1.3
Brunson/Achiuwa was +9.1

Basically we're going to be fine in the regular season if Mitch is out... I actually am rather relieved at the news that they are taking it slow with Mitch. It shows a prioritization of the long-term success over short term IMO. I think people on here tend to focus on the negatives because we're such a jaded fanbase but the depth this team has built was made exactly for this scenario. Nobody can replace what Brunson and, to some extent, Randle give you but everyone else has an ability to be replicated and replaced. You can't ask for anything more than that. Get to the postseason with your guys healthy and battle. That's gotta be the mindset for this iteration of the Knicks.

There will be matchups where starting Precious and Randle together will be a negative but, it's just one of those things you have to deal and have patience with.

I think the real question here is can Mitch be trusted long term and what avenues will the Knicks brass look to possibly upgrading at C to a more reliable option?

I think it's safe to say that Mitch can't be trusted long term with his health and the organization would love to upgrade to a more reliable option. Problem is, there are limited ways to do so. This is the ancillary cost of going all in for Mikal Bridges, or any player for that matter - it becomes very hard to improve the roster going forward.

Right now, the Knicks have very little of value to offer around the league. Some combination of Miles McBride, Dadiet, the DET protected 1st and the WAS protected first have not been able to bring back a C.

The way i'm choosing to view it is:

Would you rather have Mikal Bridges and be thin at C?

or

Would you rather have some league average starting C and all of our picks still without Mikal?

I think option A is still a better option for this iteration of the Knicks. Mikal/OG/Hart/Deuce gives you a relatively solid floor defensively IMO even if we may lack reliable size on the front line.

I just think, generally, people are underestimating how good our top 10 as a whole is compared to the rest of the league. We're just going to overwhelm some teams with 48 minutes of good rotation level guys at most of the positions on the floor. DDV was oen of the best shooters in the league last year. He would start on most teams that aren't finals contenders. He MAYBE gets 20-25 minutes a night on this team. Deuce who we all raved about as a great backup is going to have to fight for minutes just to get in the rotation.

Imagine you're an opposing shot creating wing and for 48 minutes all you see is one of OG/Mikal/Hart. Hell even Mook and Donte can give wings fits defensively. Like yes, C is a problem but it's a problem amongst like 99 other great things about this roster

Option B. But I don't think this team is a true contender with Mikal.

[Guano]

brunson, mikal, sims, og, randle

[Iron Mantis]

Ayton and picks for Randle

Zero interest in Randle.

Figured NYK wouldn’t want RW3 because of his perpetual injuries, thought maybe Reath for a couple SRP might work for both sides.

We'd also struggle to match salary with Williams and we're over the apron (2nd now?). Reath, we could match pretty easily.

That said, I only pretend to understand the new cap restrictions.

This trade checker is up-to-date on everything, CBA, salaries, restrictions, etc.

https://fanspo.com/nba/trade-machine


Have fun and show us what you come up with

[Capn'O]

Zero interest in Randle.

Figured NYK wouldn’t want RW3 because of his perpetual injuries, thought maybe Reath for a couple SRP might work for both sides.

We'd also struggle to match salary with Williams and we're over the apron (2nd now?). Reath, we could match pretty easily.

That said, I only pretend to understand the new cap restrictions.

This trade checker is up-to-date on everything, CBA, salaries, restrictions, etc.

https://fanspo.com/nba/trade-machine


Have fun and show us what you come up with

I mean, I was thinking something like KBD or Payne and a 2nd for Reath and those seem to work once Payne is eligible to move.

I'm not bothering with Williams because Donte is the matching piece and we're not trading him and POR is loaded at SG anyway.

[Guano]

sims is not an nba player

having him play significant mins with this roster is egregious malpractice.

[aggo]

randle for ayton suddenly looks a lot different now than before, doesnt it.

[mpharris36]

randle for ayton suddenly looks a lot different now than before, doesnt it.

no

[Knicksfan1992]

I think it's safe to say that Mitch can't be trusted long term with his health and the organization would love to upgrade to a more reliable option. Problem is, there are limited ways to do so. This is the ancillary cost of going all in for Mikal Bridges, or any player for that matter - it becomes very hard to improve the roster going forward.

Right now, the Knicks have very little of value to offer around the league. Some combination of Miles McBride, Dadiet, the DET protected 1st and the WAS protected first have not been able to bring back a C.

The way i'm choosing to view it is:

Would you rather have Mikal Bridges and be thin at C?

or

Would you rather have some league average starting C and all of our picks still without Mikal?

I think option A is still a better option for this iteration of the Knicks. Mikal/OG/Hart/Deuce gives you a relatively solid floor defensively IMO even if we may lack reliable size on the front line.

I just think, generally, people are underestimating how good our top 10 as a whole is compared to the rest of the league. We're just going to overwhelm some teams with 48 minutes of good rotation level guys at most of the positions on the floor. DDV was oen of the best shooters in the league last year. He would start on most teams that aren't finals contenders. He MAYBE gets 20-25 minutes a night on this team. Deuce who we all raved about as a great backup is going to have to fight for minutes just to get in the rotation.

Imagine you're an opposing shot creating wing and for 48 minutes all you see is one of OG/Mikal/Hart. Hell even Mook and Donte can give wings fits defensively. Like yes, C is a problem but it's a problem amongst like 99 other great things about this roster

Option B. But I don't think this team is a true contender with Mikal.

I disagree but it's certainly fair to view it that way.

My only counterpoint would be if the team knows they can extend Mikal instead of him taking more money through FA, then that trade makes even more sense because you have Brunson and Mikal both on discounts from what they would get on the open market. Given the CBA constraints while you might not be the outright favorite now, down the line you may back into it because teams like Boston, Philly, Dallas etc. are going to find it hard to keep their cores together.

I don't think there were many other trade targets who came with that same kind of perk.

[Richard4444]

Couldn't ihart get an even bigger bag if he waited to sign with us at the end of this season we would've had his bird rights by then I believe. Could've gave him the full starting job and traded mitch

NO.

If I am not mistaken, if we were using the early bird exception to re-sing him, the contract would have to be longer. I think 3 years at minimum.

[TheGreenArrow]

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Mook definitely making the team it seems!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Iron Mantis]

We have to get past the Sixers, Bucks, Celtics, Nuggets, trotting out a 6'-7" dude named Precious at center.

[Galvationknicks]

i honestly feel like sims might surprise us and be more than adequate

stop it - you're better than this

you're trying to talk yourself into some bullchit

he sucks and we all know it.

Maybe if we all think Sims positively it'll work lol

[aggo]

I kept telling y'all that mitch is a backup

[Jeffrey]

Where are the people that says Mitch will be fine. Gotta hear some of y'all excuses now but here are some you can use that for sure will have the forum riled up:

1. These are freak accidents so he isn't injury prone
2. Yeah but we already knew he was gonna miss some games so you need to chill
3. But how can you replace a DPOY candidate ( he was never... will never meet requirements)?!?!?!?
4. Bro... I'm not the GM! Why you coming at me for!

[aggo]

let me read the tea leaves for u


once he had that second corrective surgery after the season, that was the signal that his career is now on the line.


he needs to rest. bone needs to heal. he needs to lose weight (SLOWLY) so that he doesnt lose bone density