Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley…

nykballa2k4 · Post #101 » by **nykballa2k4** » Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:45 pm

Jeffrey wrote:If this isn't news and they knew about it... I don't know what they were thinking. There were some capable centers that signed at a decent price.

They need to stop yanking their own chains and just sign Dwight Howard. Whatever he has left is better than whatever we got and he might actually have the cajones to punch Embiid.

msg33 · Post #102 » by **msg33** » Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:49 pm

Even with the news of mitch still not ready. The team still has
C - Sims / Precious / Hukporti

Sims will be much more comfortable on offense and defense this season.

Precious will be playing for his new payday contract after being on the FA market all summer then sign a deal close to his QO.

And I feel like Hukporti is being disregarded and disrespected, as they drafted him for a reason. He's a bit more polished than expected with a similar mold of IHart.

Javale McGee is a FA still, aged veteran that can still produce with limited playing time.

Aside from McGee, Nick Richard's is my choice but don't want to lose Duece, albeit we lost Barrett and Quickley in the OG trade so who knows.

The Vo Show · Post #103 » by **The Vo Show** » Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:52 pm

nykballa2k4 wrote:
Jeffrey wrote:If this isn't news and they knew about it... I don't know what they were thinking. There were some capable centers that signed at a decent price.

They need to stop yanking their own chains and just sign Dwight Howard. Whatever he has left is better than whatever we got and he might actually have the cajones to punch Embiid.

Dwight over Boogie? I'm actually good with Dwight too if we call him up. Just rather have Boogie if we pulling someone out of retirement. Much more versatile offensively, but worse defensively by quite a bit. Though, Dwight makes a good plug in for Mitch since they'll do the same things.

Either one, I want it done before asap for training camp. Both guys are gonna need to get conditioning and game time in.

Wildcat · Post #104 » by **Wildcat** » Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:52 pm

nykballa2k4 wrote:
Jeffrey wrote:If this isn't news and they knew about it... I don't know what they were thinking. There were some capable centers that signed at a decent price.

They need to stop yanking their own chains and just sign Dwight Howard. Whatever he has left is better than whatever we got and he might actually have the cajones to punch Embiid.

Thought that's why we got Morris?

NiceLikeChrist · Post #105 » by **NiceLikeChrist** » Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:53 pm

if I could control sims with my xbox controller we'd win the chip easily. we don't even ask centers to do a lot. it's not rocket science.

nykballa2k4 · Post #106 » by **nykballa2k4** » Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:01 pm

Wildcat wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:
Jeffrey wrote:If this isn't news and they knew about it... I don't know what they were thinking. There were some capable centers that signed at a decent price.

They need to stop yanking their own chains and just sign Dwight Howard. Whatever he has left is better than whatever we got and he might actually have the cajones to punch Embiid.

Thought that's why we got Morris?

I want a conga-line of dudes to hit Embiid in his smug mug.

Dude is 1/2 the reason Mitch is out and didn't get a single real consequence...

JRoy · Post #107 » by **JRoy** » Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:05 pm

nykballa2k4 wrote:
JRoy wrote:
aq_ua wrote:After mid-December, you can combine a few minimum contracts. Assuming Portland clears a few end of the bench players, you could trade Deuce, KBD, Okeke and Shamet in a 4 for 1 for Williams. Outside of a few picks, I don't see the basketball reason for Portland making that sort of move, but the numbers should at least work.

POR doesn’t want any of those guys.

Salary and 2 SRP for Reath and call it a day.

I think you misread what the FO wants to do. IDK what the asking price is for Ayton, but his salary may be neutral value at best and they may very well want to clear a path.

POR isn’t giving Ayton away for nothing. If other teams don’t value him, I get it. May as well let his contract expire.

Post #108 » by **Capn'O** » Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:06 pm

JRoy wrote:
aq_ua wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
I mean, I was thinking something like KBD or Payne and a 2nd for Reath and those seem to work once Payne is eligible to move.

I'm not bothering with Williams because Donte is the matching piece and we're not trading him and POR is loaded at SG anyway.

After mid-December, you can combine a few minimum contracts. Assuming Portland clears a few end of the bench players, you could trade Deuce, KBD, Okeke and Shamet in a 4 for 1 for Williams. Outside of a few picks, I don't see the basketball reason for Portland making that sort of move, but the numbers should at least work.

POR doesn’t want any of those guys.

Salary and 2 SRP for Reath and call it a day.

I think Aqua's post was strictly academic. But I agree. Portland would want real value for Williams. He, like Mitch, is just injury prone.

F N 11 · Post #109 » by **F N 11** » Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:16 pm

At this point I’m fine with Mitch as back up unless a team bite. This is getting crazy.

StlHawksFan · Post #110 » by **StlHawksFan** » Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:17 pm

JRoy wrote:
POR isn’t giving Ayton away for nothing. If other teams don’t value him, I get it. May as well let his contract expire.

They may do just that. The real issue at hand is that the Knicks simply cannot make the deal work financially without also including Mitch. Will Portland trade Ayton for an injured Mitch?

F N 11 · Post #111 » by **F N 11** » Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:19 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:Time for thibs to unleash this beast

Read on Twitter

I forgot about Precious. I’m fine with all the wingspan on the floor floor with no traditional center. Precious and Sims putting our workout tapes. May the best man win.

bkkrh · Post #112 » by **bkkrh** » Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:20 pm

Considering that there were times in the last 20 years where we had Earl Barron, Jason Smith, Cole Aldrich and Randolph Morris as starting Centers for games, Sims, Precious and Hukporti doesn't actually sound that bad^^. Let´s see how things go and maybe a trade will be possible in December otherwise.

On the other side, it´s obvious that it makes no sense to plan with Robinson any more as future starting Center. I like him as a player, but he can´t be more than a great backup where it´s not the end of the world if he misses a few games.

JRoy · Post #113 » by **JRoy** » Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:21 pm

StlHawksFan wrote:
JRoy wrote:
POR isn’t giving Ayton away for nothing. If other teams don’t value him, I get it. May as well let his contract expire.

They may do just that. The real issue at hand is that the Knicks simply cannot make the deal work financially without also including Mitch. Will Portland trade Ayton for an injured Mitch?

I doubt it. Better to just let him expire.

F N 11 · Post #114 » by **F N 11** » Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:27 pm

mpharris36 wrote:this is sort of ridiculous...the front office better have plans for this.

Precious and Sims isn't going to cut it.

Jonas a likely target wasting away in Washington. There will be competition unfortunately.

StlHawksFan · Post #115 » by **StlHawksFan** » Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:27 pm

Our trade targets should be Atlanta or Orlando. Atlanta is looking to tear it down and will be moving Capela this season. Right now they want an immediate first but they may settle for our two future protected picks. Financially, it's another story. Knicks would have to S&T someone for the MLE and tack on Precious, Deuce, and a min contract filler.

Orlando has 4 centers on the roster. Carter, Isaac, Wagner, and Bitadze. The latter is signed to a 3yr contract starting at $9.06M. Orlando would definitely want Deuce in a trade because Black and Harris have been disappointments and Cole Anthony just isn't anything special either. Deuce+KBD+Sims works financially. And all three of those guys should fit the Orlando culture.

Portland also does have a lot of excess center depth, and we cpuld probably get Time Lord for Deuce+MLE+min+picks. But he's less durable than Mitch.

sol537 · Post #116 » by **sol537** » Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:29 pm

Targets: Zubac, Richards, Goga, Wendell Carter Jr., Valencunius, Kessler, etc.

Short-term answer: Precious (24 mins), Sims (12 mins), Randle (12 mins)

We'll be fine. Except against Philly and Denver, the league has moved on to small ball.

StlHawksFan · Post #117 » by **StlHawksFan** » Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:34 pm

Time again to look at Mathias Lessort?

He's on the last year of his deal in Greece. Knicks have the cap room to buy him out and bring him in on a rookie deal. He did well in the Olympics and was the ABA league DPOY in 2023 and he was Euroleague finals MVP in 2024.

https://www.essentiallysports.com/nba-active-basketball-news-who-is-mathias-lessort-meet-twenty-eight-year-old-nba-reject-who-is-now-stealing-fourx-dpoys-minutes-for-france/

StlHawksFan · Post #118 » by **StlHawksFan** » Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:35 pm

sol537 wrote:Targets: Zubac, Richards, Goga, Wendell Carter Jr., Valencunius, Kessler, etc.

Short-term answer: Precious (24 mins), Sims (12 mins), Randle (12 mins)

We'll be fine. Except against Philly and Denver, the league has moved on to small ball.

Zu can't be traded until March and he's making too much money for us to trade for without including Mitch anyway.

Richard4444 · Post #119 » by **Richard4444** » Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:40 pm

sol537 wrote:Targets: Zubac, Richards, Goga, Wendell Carter Jr., Valencunius, Kessler, etc.

Short-term answer: Precious (24 mins), Sims (12 mins), Randle (12 mins)

We'll be fine. Except against Philly and Denver, the league has moved on to small ball.

I think we can forget about Zubac. At least until Kawhi retires, LAC will keep competing. They just built a new stadium and they already extended their vets.

Richard4444 · Post #120 » by **Richard4444** » Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:43 pm

StlHawksFan wrote:Time again to look at Mathias Lessort?

He's on the last year of his deal in Greece. Knicks have the cap room to buy him out and bring him in on a rookie deal. He did well in the Olympics and was the ABA league DPOY in 2023 and he was Euroleague finals MVP in 2024.

https://www.essentiallysports.com/nba-active-basketball-news-who-is-mathias-lessort-meet-twenty-eight-year-old-nba-reject-who-is-now-stealing-fourx-dpoys-minutes-for-france/

Its tough to teach NBA style of play to foreign centers. Most of them become busts and give up fast. Besides, we just do not have the time to wait for them to develop.