Official Offseason Thread 9.0: The Long Road to October

[Knightro]

Goga is an insurance policy and so is Harris.

KCP or Suggs out plug in Harris.
WCJ is out? Goga starts.

Harris wasn’t brought back to be a full time rotation piece.

We'll see.

I just don't believe Mosley's going to take a guy that he was comfortable and confident enough in to play 26 MPG from mid February through the end of the playoffs as a starter and just stick him on the third string.

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Goga is an insurance policy and so is Harris.

KCP or Suggs out plug in Harris.
WCJ is out? Goga starts.

Harris wasn’t brought back to be a full time rotation piece.

For the Center position? Sure.
Unfortunately this can't be the case with the guard rotation for a number of reasons.

Suggs is starting at point guard.
Cole Anthony exists on the roster and will be the first point guard off the bench.
Gary will be starting if KCP is out OR they will move Suggs to SG and just start Cole.

How does Gary Harris go from starting in the playoffs and logging 24mpg last season to being a reserve? Not happening under Mosely.

We can argue about what move makes the most sense long-term theoretically. Id agree it would be playing the youth.

What will Mosely do though? Thats already been established. We already have sufficient evidence based on his rotations a few months ago.

[Skybox]

we drafted Black to play PG (or at least guard) Da Silva playing shouldnt impact his minutes

Assuming Cole and Gary have rotation spots at least to open the season, there seem to be a high probability of Black having to play "out of position" to get on the court in three-guard sets.

so Gary who has no real future with the team is going to limit Black and push him to play out of position? that is horrible decision making

a little twist on this concern is that his "position" has been determined to be unnecessary by the FO. Until they feel they need a PG, his position is not one they care about. Hopefully, he plays well enough that they are reminded what a BIG, defensive-minded PG can bring to a defensive minded team with no recognizable offensive scheme...he hasn't yet, but might take a leap. He really does need to assert himself to play like a PG when he DOES get to touch the ball and not scramble to get rid of the hot potato as quickly as he got it. (rookie yips - all good for now at least).

[eyriq]

Goga is an insurance policy and so is Harris.

KCP or Suggs out plug in Harris.
WCJ is out? Goga starts.

Harris wasn’t brought back to be a full time rotation piece.

This is what I'm seeing as well. Mosley likes stable units it seems, so having third stringers that can start in a pinch could be the strategy again.

[Bensational]

Of course there will be injuries. No team goes through the season without injuries. Guys will play as other guys get hurt. But that isn't the point.

The question is "when everyone is available, who plays and who doesn't?"

And as it stands now, it feels like there's only room for one of Black/Jett/TDS in the "everyone's healthy 10-man rotation".

That’s a question that we’ll need to play out the season to find out the answer, because the answer today might be different at the end of the season. Players will improve and players will have slumps which could impact who Mosley favours.

It’s less a concern about where do we start and more about tracking where we’re going to end up. Harris’ role has essentially been a capable status quo for the young guys to displace, and I think he’s been brought back to help usher AB and Jett through that this season.

[Bensational]

a little twist on this concern is that his "position" has been determined to be unnecessary by the FO. Until they feel they need a PG, his position is not one they care about. Hopefully, he plays well enough that they are reminded what a BIG, defensive-minded PG can bring to a defensive minded team with no recognizable offensive scheme...he hasn't yet, but might take a leap. He really does need to assert himself to play like a PG when he DOES get to touch the ball and not scramble to get rid of the hot potato as quickly as he got it. (rookie yips - all good for now at least).

Positions can be unnecessary as long as you’re adding the functions of those positions across the roster. AB will hopefully develop as a point-playmaker whether he’s initiating from any of the backcourt or wing spots.

[Catledge]

we drafted Black to play PG (or at least guard) Da Silva playing shouldnt impact his minutes

Assuming Cole and Gary have rotation spots at least to open the season, there seem to be a high probability of Black having to play "out of position" to get on the court in three-guard sets.

so Gary who has no real future with the team is going to limit Black and push him to play out of position? that is horrible decision making

If Black is a pg, then it's Suggs and Cole who are pushing him out of position. And that's just the way it has to be for now because Suggs and Cole are both better players right now.

If people want to see Black play on this team this year, then they need to get used to seeing Black play a position other than point guard. This is true whether Gary Harris is on the team or not.

[anothermagicfan]

It's seems we're all in agreement on the starters being
Suggs/KCP/Franz/PB/WCJ

The second unit will probably be
Cole/Harris/TDS/JI/Moe

But id prefer to see
AB/Harris/TDS/JI/Moe

I think this version is significantly better defensively and could be just as good offensively. Theoretically there's 4 decent-good shooters in both lineups.

You can't really count on AB shooting as it was low volume in his rookie season and Coles shooting hasn't been overall as good as we all hoped it'd be a few years back.

So to me the question is really do you go with Coles ball handling and initiating the offense and not so go defense or AB unproven pg skills and strong defense.

My perspective is we kinda already know what we got in Cole and he's ok. Id really like to get a good look at AB though and this rotation could be a great opportunity to see.

My guess is it's Cole mostly to start the year out and AB gets some time with this group in blowouts.

[yoyojw17]

Goga is an insurance policy and so is Harris.

KCP or Suggs out plug in Harris.
WCJ is out? Goga starts.

Harris wasn’t brought back to be a full time rotation piece.

For the Center position? Sure.
Unfortunately this can't be the case with the guard rotation for a number of reasons.

Suggs is starting at point guard.
Cole Anthony exists on the roster and will be the first point guard off the bench.
Gary will be starting if KCP is out OR they will move Suggs to SG and just start Cole.

How does Gary Harris go from starting in the playoffs and logging 24mpg last season to being a reserve? Not happening under Mosely.

We can argue about what move makes the most sense long-term theoretically. Id agree it would be playing the youth.

What will Mosely do though? Thats already been established. We already have sufficient evidence based on his rotations a few months ago.

Or they will just start black if suggs is out and have cole come off the bench as last time.

We will see how things go in training camp. Excited to see how it all plays out.

[Bensational]

Suggs is starting at point guard.
Cole Anthony exists on the roster and will be the first point guard off the bench.
Gary will be starting if KCP is out OR they will move Suggs to SG and just start Cole.

How does Gary Harris go from starting in the playoffs and logging 24mpg last season to being a reserve? Not happening under Mosely.

What will Mosely do though? Thats already been established. We already have sufficient evidence based on his rotations a few months ago.

This is all factually incorrect.

Yeah we have evidence of how Mosley handles lineups and none of it suggests Cole will be considered as a starter even in the result of injury.

How does Harris go from starting in the playoffs to being a reserve? It happened the moment KCP was signed. Mosley will in no way consider starting Harris over KCP.

How will Harris find himself relegated to third string? Same way Suggs pushed him out of the SL. Same way Fultz was pushed out. How did Fultz go from being a 60 game starter on 30mpg to a backup PG on 20mpg? Because players evolved and Mosley adapted.

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Suggs is starting at point guard.
Cole Anthony exists on the roster and will be the first point guard off the bench.
Gary will be starting if KCP is out OR they will move Suggs to SG and just start Cole.

How does Gary Harris go from starting in the playoffs and logging 24mpg last season to being a reserve? Not happening under Mosely.

What will Mosely do though? Thats already been established. We already have sufficient evidence based on his rotations a few months ago.

This is all factually incorrect.

Yeah we have evidence of how Mosley handles lineups and none of it suggests Cole will be considered as a starter even in the result of injury.

How does Harris go from starting in the playoffs to being a reserve? It happened the moment KCP was signed. Mosley will in no way consider starting Harris over KCP.

How will Harris find himself relegated to third string? Same way Suggs pushed him out of the SL. Same way Fultz was pushed out. How did Fultz go from being a 60 game starter on 30mpg to a backup PG on 20mpg? Because players evolved and Mosley adapted.

How is anything I said "factually incorrect" within context?

Nobody once said Cole is a starter. I said he's the first point guard off the bench, which has been his primary role on this roster. Cole Anthony played the 4th most minutes last season behind Paolo, Franz, and Suggs respectively. AB could start if there is an injury which is something I have already stated in this thread. We saw AB get starters minutes over Cole for a stretch.

The only caveat I made was Mosely determining who is more important in a hypothetical situation where KCP is injured. Does he move Suggs to SG, and start Cole, or does he keep Suggs at PG and start Gary? We don't have that information yet.

Nobody once said Gary Harris is starting over KCP. I said Gary Harris is the first one off the bench behind KCP, which is exactly what a coach would do if they are trying to win basketball games. He will likely start if KCP is out injured because he was a starter months ago in a playoff situation. Do I know this 1000%? No, but it would be very surprising if he didn't. His production isn't going to fall off a cliff because we want to see young prospects get minutes.

Weird examples. Fultz was never good. Orlando just never had a point guard worth a damn for the last decade plus. Gary Harris is a role player since being in Orlando. He started for stretches because Fultz was abysmal, AB wasn't ready, and Cole is the first point guard off the bench in either starter scenario.

FWIW I didn't think Gary Harris should have been re-signed. Why? because there are three young guys that should be battling it out for earned backup minutes that aren't "injury minutes". Orlando could afford to be in that situation given this iteration of the roster. Mosely will play 10 year veteran Gary Harris minutes despite what I think of him as a player.

[Bensational]

Suggs is starting at point guard.
Cole Anthony exists on the roster and will be the first point guard off the bench.
Gary will be starting if KCP is out OR they will move Suggs to SG and just start Cole.

How does Gary Harris go from starting in the playoffs and logging 24mpg last season to being a reserve? Not happening under Mosely.

What will Mosely do though? Thats already been established. We already have sufficient evidence based on his rotations a few months ago.

This is all factually incorrect.

Yeah we have evidence of how Mosley handles lineups and none of it suggests Cole will be considered as a starter even in the result of injury.

How does Harris go from starting in the playoffs to being a reserve? It happened the moment KCP was signed. Mosley will in no way consider starting Harris over KCP.

How will Harris find himself relegated to third string? Same way Suggs pushed him out of the SL. Same way Fultz was pushed out. How did Fultz go from being a 60 game starter on 30mpg to a backup PG on 20mpg? Because players evolved and Mosley adapted.

How is anything I said "factually incorrect" within context?

Nobody once said Cole is a starter. I said he's the first point guard off the bench, which has been his primary role on this roster. Cole Anthony played the 4th most minutes last season behind Paolo, Franz, and Suggs respectively. AB could start if there is an injury which is something I have already stated in this thread. We saw AB get starters minutes over Cole for a stretch.

The only caveat I made was Mosely determining who is more important in a hypothetical situation where KCP is injured. Does he move Suggs to SG, and start Cole, or does he keep Suggs at PG and start Gary? We don't have that information yet.

Nobody once said Gary Harris is starting over KCP. I said Gary Harris is the first one off the bench behind KCP, which is exactly what a coach would do if they are trying to win basketball games. He will likely start if KCP is out injured because he was a starter months ago in a playoff situation. Do I know this 1000%? No, but it would be very surprising if he didn't. His production isn't going to fall off a cliff because we want to see young prospects get minutes.

Weird examples. Fultz was never good. Orlando just never had a point guard worth a damn for the last decade plus. Gary Harris is a role player since being in Orlando. He started for stretches because Fultz was abysmal, AB wasn't ready, and Cole is the first point guard off the bench in either starter scenario.

FWIW I didn't think Gary Harris should have been re-signed. Why? because there are three young guys that should be battling it out for earned backup minutes that aren't "injury minutes". Orlando could afford to be in that situation given this iteration of the roster. Mosely will play 10 year veteran Gary Harris minutes despite what I think of him as a player.

It’s all in what I originally quoted. You suggested that Cole would be in consideration to start if KCP was injured, but Cole wasn’t once in consideration to start all last season. He only started 4 games out of 60 the season prior, too. So there’s simply no grounds to even think Cole is in the equation to be a starter.

You also asked “How does Gary Harris go from starting in the playoffs and logging 24mpg last season to being a reserve? Not happening under Mosely.”, which is just a strange statement because the decision has been made by signing KCP. How could Mosley use Harris as anything other than a reserve? There’s no room for him to start. If your question was “how does he get relegated to 3rd string?”, well that’s why I followed that up with the evidence of how Mosley handled Fultz getting played out of minutes and his position. You can’t cover your eyes and block your ears to ignore that just because it doesn’t fit your opinion.

That said, I don’t disagree with you that Harris didn’t need to be resigned and that he causes some extra glut we might not have needed. Personally, I’m happy with it because I like his play and he’s proven to be team-first and prepared to let other players outgrow him and take his role. But if you’d prefer AB/Jett/TDS be getting those minutes then that’s a totally reasonable opinion, and I’d have equally supported that path if we’d gone that way.

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This is all factually incorrect.

Yeah we have evidence of how Mosley handles lineups and none of it suggests Cole will be considered as a starter even in the result of injury.

How does Harris go from starting in the playoffs to being a reserve? It happened the moment KCP was signed. Mosley will in no way consider starting Harris over KCP.

How will Harris find himself relegated to third string? Same way Suggs pushed him out of the SL. Same way Fultz was pushed out. How did Fultz go from being a 60 game starter on 30mpg to a backup PG on 20mpg? Because players evolved and Mosley adapted.

How is anything I said "factually incorrect" within context?

Nobody once said Cole is a starter. I said he's the first point guard off the bench, which has been his primary role on this roster. Cole Anthony played the 4th most minutes last season behind Paolo, Franz, and Suggs respectively. AB could start if there is an injury which is something I have already stated in this thread. We saw AB get starters minutes over Cole for a stretch.

The only caveat I made was Mosely determining who is more important in a hypothetical situation where KCP is injured. Does he move Suggs to SG, and start Cole, or does he keep Suggs at PG and start Gary? We don't have that information yet.

Nobody once said Gary Harris is starting over KCP. I said Gary Harris is the first one off the bench behind KCP, which is exactly what a coach would do if they are trying to win basketball games. He will likely start if KCP is out injured because he was a starter months ago in a playoff situation. Do I know this 1000%? No, but it would be very surprising if he didn't. His production isn't going to fall off a cliff because we want to see young prospects get minutes.

Weird examples. Fultz was never good. Orlando just never had a point guard worth a damn for the last decade plus. Gary Harris is a role player since being in Orlando. He started for stretches because Fultz was abysmal, AB wasn't ready, and Cole is the first point guard off the bench in either starter scenario.

FWIW I didn't think Gary Harris should have been re-signed. Why? because there are three young guys that should be battling it out for earned backup minutes that aren't "injury minutes". Orlando could afford to be in that situation given this iteration of the roster. Mosely will play 10 year veteran Gary Harris minutes despite what I think of him as a player.

You also asked “How does Gary Harris go from starting in the playoffs and logging 24mpg last season to being a reserve? Not happening under Mosely.”, which is just a strange statement because the decision has been made by signing KCP. How could Mosley use Harris as anything other than a reserve? There’s no room for him to start. If your question was “how does he get relegated to 3rd string?”, well that’s why I followed that up with the evidence of how Mosley handled Fultz getting played out of minutes and his position. You can’t cover your eyes and block your ears to ignore that just because it doesn’t fit your opinion.

I'm only going to respond to this because I have already said my part on Cole being a backup this entire thread. Attempting to frame a case out of a hypothetical situation isn't worth the time given KCP hasn't played a minute of basketball for Orlando.

Gary Harris, despite what I think of him, is going to be backing up KCP in the rotation. There is simply MORE evidence to suggest Mosely will have him in the second unit than LESS. I don't know how that is difficult for people to comprehend. At no point last season did AB, Jett, or Caleb play minutes over Gary Harris in non-injury or non-blowout scenarios when he was active. Could I be 100% wrong about that? Sure, but it would deviate from all the information we have about how Mosely utilized him in previous rotations.

NOW with that out of the way... Ben, you and others can hope Mosely decides to throw out some wildly different combination of lineup we haven't seen to justify Gary Harris being a reserve. Maybe he forgoes any kind of history Gary had with the team last season entirely. Thats fine. You can believe 10 year vet Gary Harris will be relegated to reserve 3rd string minutes after starting in the playoffs. Be my guest.

Your example of Fultz isn't in good faith and doesn't correlate to this conversation. Fultz was inactive for 32 games last season after playing, and starting, 5 at the start of the season. Upon return he was garbage, was eased into minutes for 6 games, and then started 10 games sporadically before being benched to split backup minutes around the 58th game of the season (his 22nd in uniform).

You are acting like Fultz was healthy all season, didn't look like trash, and Mosely made the random decision to start Suggs in his place without context. He got "played out" of his position because he never looked the same since the previous season uninjured... The season I said we should have moved him before the deadline.

Here I'll give you this caveat based on your example... If Gary Harris is injured for 32 games next season and looks like ass upon return, then you are RIGHT... He will be replaced by a player that played all season with fresh legs and will be a reserve. Does that work for you?

[drsd]

Goga is an insurance policy and so is Harris.

KCP or Suggs out plug in Harris.
WCJ is out? Goga starts.

Harris wasn’t brought back to be a full time rotation piece.

I agree with the notion. But to extend it, da Silva was not drafted to be a full time rotation piece. He is also an insurance pick.
In conclusion: it is my view that Harris WAS brought back to be a full time rotation piece.

We can all agree to disagree on everything except this point: it is management's goal this season to win the most total games possible. "Player development" (in the tanking sense) is done. And thus, we can reasonably assume that Houstan and Howard are irrelevant to this roster. Their roles are on the practice squad, not game time. I expect da Silva to be in that basket.

My prediction is this depth chart on opening night.

Suggs/Anthony
Caldwell-Pope/Harris
F-Wagner/Black
Banchero/Isaac
Carter/M-Wagner

Short of injuries, this is the team as I see it.

[SOUL]

Depth is always important. We always argue about how certain players are blocked in the offseason and then literally need all of our guys at some point during the season.

- Current roster is obviously a bit wonky positionally in the guard spot, which is pretty much normal for most teams out there besides the contenders (and even some of them), but the good thing is that we have movable contracts, young pieces ,and all of our picks if we want to make a move.

- Cole and WCJ are in put up or shut up mode. Both can easily be trade fodder during the season. They're talented enough to have a really nice impact on the team, but streaky enough that it doesn't mean they're going to keep their jobs on this team.

- Gary and Cory Joseph are insurance pieces. Gary I think will have more of a role early on in the year, but I could see it fading as the season progresses, especially if the young guys are playing well.

- The team is past eking out development for every young guy. It doesn't mean they shouldn't deserve to play, it means that if they're not as effective as we thought in their minutes, or need 3-4 seasons of seasoning before becoming impact, we can't just throw out free 15 minutes to them and let it hurt the team.

- If they do play well, it means that the vets are chillin' and playing a supportive, mentorship role.

- This team has a lot of oft-injured guys, we will need all of these guys at some point.

[Bensational]

I'm only going to respond to this because I have already said my part on Cole being a backup this entire thread. Attempting to frame a case out of a hypothetical situation isn't worth the time given KCP hasn't played a minute of basketball for Orlando.

There’s no case to be made though. Mosley has only started Cole 4 times in the last 2 seasons and they were all 2 seasons ago. Cole just isn’t in consideration to start and Mosley said on multiple occasions last season that he likes to keep guys in set roles, so Cole will always be the backup PG and if a starter gets injured a 3rd stringer will take their spot. Even Caleb Houstan started 13 games last season rather than Cole getting a chance.

Gary Harris, despite what I think of him, is going to be backing up KCP in the rotation. There is simply MORE evidence to suggest Mosely will have him in the second unit than LESS. I don't know how that is difficult for people to comprehend. At no point last season did AB, Jett, or Caleb play minutes over Gary Harris in non-injury or non-blowout scenarios when he was active. Could I be 100% wrong about that? Sure, but it would deviate from all the information we have about how Mosely utilized him in previous rotations.

This is just wrong. Harris played 54 games last season and started only 27 of them. From games 11-29 Black started and Harris came off the bench with the exception of 3 games. So Mosley does have an established precedence, you’re just ignoring it.

NOW with that out of the way... Ben, you and others can hope Mosely decides to throw out some wildly different combination of lineup we haven't seen to justify Gary Harris being a reserve. Maybe he forgoes any kind of history Gary had with the team last season entirely. Thats fine. You can believe 10 year vet Gary Harris will be relegated to reserve 3rd string minutes after starting in the playoffs. Be my guest.

You mean the same Gary Harris who was moved in and out of lineups all season? The same guy who came off the bench while Black started?

Your example of Fultz isn't in good faith and doesn't correlate to this conversation. Fultz was inactive for 32 games last season after playing, and starting, 5 at the start of the season. Upon return he was garbage, was eased into minutes for 6 games, and then started 10 games sporadically before being benched to split backup minutes around the 58th game of the season (his 22nd in uniform). You are acting like Fultz was healthy all season, didn't look like trash, and Mosely made the random decision to start Suggs in his place without context. He got "played out" of his position because he never looked the same since the previous season uninjured... The season I said we should have moved him before the deadline.

Here I'll give you this caveat based on your example... If Gary Harris is injured for 32 games next season and looks like ass upon return, then you are RIGHT... He will be replaced by a player that played all season with fresh legs and will be a reserve. Does that work for you?

This is disingenuous. Fultz wasn’t able to outperform Suggs or Harris and so he lost his spot, plain and simple. Health and availability is part of what’s required to stay in the league, but the team also evolved beyond needing what he had to offer. And now the team has let him walk away to clear room for AB even though Fultz is probably the more ready now option between the two.

It’s what I said all last offseason. It’s what I’m saying again now but about Harris. Yeah, he’s going to get minutes and probably a bunch of games where we’d rather see AB or Jett play, but it doesn’t matter as long as the young guys stay on course to outgrow him. And come next offseason he’ll very likely be gone and they’ll have a clear path to those backup minutes unless they’re struggling themselves.

[eyriq]

Yeah, I don't think you can make a strong case for Harris over AB. Harris was replaced by KCP and brought back at 50% the cost. To Ben's point, Mosley started AB over Harris for a significant number of games. Rookie AB played nearly as well, and made more of an impact, than Harris. Sophomore AB is going to eat Harris' lunch and personally sit him down on the deep bench. As much as anything AB is the #6 pick and the team is committed to playing and developing him as a PG.

I think the probability that Black is in the rotation is over 80%. The consistent blind spot this fan base has for AB is wild. He'll likely beat out TDS and Jett, and he'll likely beat out Harris otherwise.

[pepe1991]

This was Black's playing time from March to playoffs ( without playoffs) when Gary Harris was able to play:
3:13
27:34
22:50
11:50
1:47
DNP
2:44
9:01
4:43
DNP
DNP
DNP
DNP
1:29
1:37
DNP
5:16


17 games.
6 DNPs
average PT - 8 min a game.

Also don't get caught into semantics, being "in rotation" on Magic means way less than on 99% of other teams, because Magic have tendency to throw 12 men in single game, but in reality out of 12, at least 3 of them go in game just to not log DNP-CD near their name and play 2-3 sporadic min through mainly second quater, where stakes are still pretty low.


Problem with Magic roster build up is fact that nobody really can play PG to a point where that player would considered "no brainer decision" to start or come off bench as PG. So you go with Suggs in starting lineup, despite fact he sucked as PG, and off bench you go with Cole, despite fact he sucked as PG as well. Not really because it's perfect situation, but because nobody else can.

Black himself didn't really show much of playmaking ( nor got too much chance, but also never looked capable nor comfortable with ball to being with ). And you have resigned Harris on 1+1 year and your biggest addition was KCP, who will average 30- 32 mpg at SG and his backups won't really get lot of repetition on that position, because KCP is career 30 mpg guy.

Some things will work itself out, players get hurt, and get hurt often. We have no clue how Isaac's health will hold up, Suggs is also prone to injuries, so are Harris, Carter etc. Some things will be work in progress.

[fendilim]

This was Black's playing time from March to playoffs ( without playoffs) when Gary Harris was able to play:
3:13
27:34
22:50
11:50
1:47
DNP
2:44
9:01
4:43
DNP
DNP
DNP
DNP
1:29
1:37
DNP
5:16


17 games.
6 DNPs
average PT - 8 min a game.

Also don't get caught into semantics, being "in rotation" on Magic means way less than on 99% of other teams, because Magic have tendency to throw 12 men in single game, but in reality out of 12, at least 3 of them go in game just to not log DNP-CD near their name and play 2-3 sporadic min through mainly second quater, where stakes are still pretty low.


Problem with Magic roster build up is fact that nobody really can play PG to a point where that player would considered "no brainer decision" to start or come off bench as PG. So you go with Suggs in starting lineup, despite fact he sucked as PG, and off bench you go with Cole, despite fact he sucked as PG as well. Not really because it's perfect situation, but because nobody else can.

Black himself didn't really show much of playmaking ( nor got too much chance, but also never looked capable nor comfortable with ball to being with ). And you have resigned Harris on 1+1 year and your biggest addition was KCP, who will average 30- 32 mpg at SG and his backups won't really get lot of repetition on that position, because KCP is career 30 mpg guy.

Some things will work itself out, players get hurt, and get hurt often. We have no clue how Isaac's health will hold up, Suggs is also prone to injuries, so are Harris, Carter etc. Some things will be work in progress.

not really.

He played PG this year, his best year.

His first two years, he played sg.

[pepe1991]

This was Black's playing time from March to playoffs ( without playoffs) when Gary Harris was able to play:
3:13
27:34
22:50
11:50
1:47
DNP
2:44
9:01
4:43
DNP
DNP
DNP
DNP
1:29
1:37
DNP
5:16


17 games.
6 DNPs
average PT - 8 min a game.

Also don't get caught into semantics, being "in rotation" on Magic means way less than on 99% of other teams, because Magic have tendency to throw 12 men in single game, but in reality out of 12, at least 3 of them go in game just to not log DNP-CD near their name and play 2-3 sporadic min through mainly second quater, where stakes are still pretty low.


Problem with Magic roster build up is fact that nobody really can play PG to a point where that player would considered "no brainer decision" to start or come off bench as PG. So you go with Suggs in starting lineup, despite fact he sucked as PG, and off bench you go with Cole, despite fact he sucked as PG as well. Not really because it's perfect situation, but because nobody else can.

Black himself didn't really show much of playmaking ( nor got too much chance, but also never looked capable nor comfortable with ball to being with ). And you have resigned Harris on 1+1 year and your biggest addition was KCP, who will average 30- 32 mpg at SG and his backups won't really get lot of repetition on that position, because KCP is career 30 mpg guy.

Some things will work itself out, players get hurt, and get hurt often. We have no clue how Isaac's health will hold up, Suggs is also prone to injuries, so are Harris, Carter etc. Some things will be work in progress.

not really.

He played PG this year, his best year.

Who?