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wco81 wrote:Calafiori though was the one who got beaten by Saviano who set up Haaland for that first goal.
Tried to challenge Saviano around the middle of the pitch and Saviano dribbled by him and had a free look to make the through pass to Haaland.
Baseline81 wrote:MaliBrah wrote:Positive is we have taken 7/9 points away to Villa , Spurs , and City and are done with those games. Calafiori had a little bit of a tough time but settled well and the guy is GOOD , so much quality. Easier part of schedule now for a decent stretch. Timber is a big help too , glad he's back that was a big blow last year
Here's to hoping the red cards ease up. We are one step away from a player getting sent off for not tucking in his shirt
Understand the anger, however, if Arteta doesn't have a word with his players to leave the ball that's on him. Control what you can.
Don't get me wrong, I actually thought this one on Trossard was farcical considering how bang-bang it was from whistle to kick. And yes, the consistency in the league by these refs is beyond ridiculous. But at what point do you look in the mirror?
MaliBrah wrote:It's just frustrating man , you see it happen in the same game multiple times. Why are the officials so hell bent on making this something that is deciding games and manipulating the table. I'd understand if we were committing violent offences , tactical fouling. But yes I hope our players learn. Don't give the likes of Abu Dhabi Oliver and that prick Kavanaugh even a chance.
Baseline81 wrote:MaliBrah wrote:It's just frustrating man , you see it happen in the same game multiple times. Why are the officials so hell bent on making this something that is deciding games and manipulating the table. I'd understand if we were committing violent offences , tactical fouling. But yes I hope our players learn. Don't give the likes of Abu Dhabi Oliver and that prick Kavanaugh even a chance.
I will also point you to this article:
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cn4zy8er71xo
If you don't believe this doesn't influence the refs, I'm not sure what to tell you. I'm not saying Arteta needs to change his entire approach, but a tweak here and there may benefit the club in the league's eyes.
MaliBrah wrote:We were down to 10 men for an entire half away at the Etihad. Of course we were going to waste time , and employ some dark arts to see out the game. Everyone that went down injured subbed out. We played an entire half with 10 men after playing away at Atalanta on thursday. Timber is coming back from a year out and isn't used to the minutes , Calafiori just came back from a short injury , Martinelli bless him had to try and be some kind of outlet and defend. We have played almost an entire game now in the league down a man so it skews those stats.
We didn't play like this last year , we were blitzing teams off the pitch lol. We scored a club record 91 goals and led the league in GD. 2/3 of our starting midfield is out and we have played an entire game of minutes down to ten men basically with half of it at the Etihad. We have played away at 3 of the top 6. Anyone saying that would have done anything differently is lying. We were damn well playing well from the Rodri injury until that red card yesterday. There was no dark arts. City were becoming open and we had 2 other good chances.
City have employed the "dark arts" for years , rotational fouling , tactical fouling to stop counters. A million times Rodri and Fernandinho have escaped yellow cards.. but nope they hardly ever got the second one. Surrounding the ref in droves. Never get punished for it. In fact big decisions usually go against their opponents.
The optics? Not great. Everyone knows that Sheikh Mansour, vice-president and deputy prime minister of the UAE, owns Manchester City. Less well known is that the UAE Football Association has held talks with City Football Group chief executive Ferran Soriano about a “framework of joint cooperation” and that the UAE Pro League’s main sponsor is the Abu Dhabi National Oil Company (ADNOC), whose board members include City chairman Khaldoon Al-Mubarak.
In that context, allowing a group of PGMOL officials to fly to the UAE last week to take charge of a match between Sharjah and Al-Ain — Oliver as referee, Stuart Burt and Cook as assistants, England as VAR — looks inadvisable in the extreme. Not because of doubts about integrity among the officials or the authorities in the UAE, but because having referees on the payroll of another league, with close links to the ownership of Premier League clubs, inevitably brings an extra level of scrutiny that match officials really could do without.
Baseline81 wrote:MaliBrah wrote:We were down to 10 men for an entire half away at the Etihad. Of course we were going to waste time , and employ some dark arts to see out the game. Everyone that went down injured subbed out. We played an entire half with 10 men after playing away at Atalanta on thursday. Timber is coming back from a year out and isn't used to the minutes , Calafiori just came back from a short injury , Martinelli bless him had to try and be some kind of outlet and defend. We have played almost an entire game now in the league down a man so it skews those stats.
We didn't play like this last year , we were blitzing teams off the pitch lol. We scored a club record 91 goals and led the league in GD. 2/3 of our starting midfield is out and we have played an entire game of minutes down to ten men basically with half of it at the Etihad. We have played away at 3 of the top 6. Anyone saying that would have done anything differently is lying. We were damn well playing well from the Rodri injury until that red card yesterday. There was no dark arts. City were becoming open and we had 2 other good chances.
City have employed the "dark arts" for years , rotational fouling , tactical fouling to stop counters. A million times Rodri and Fernandinho have escaped yellow cards.. but nope they hardly ever got the second one. Surrounding the ref in droves. Never get punished for it. In fact big decisions usually go against their opponents.
The data in that article is not simply for Sunday's game.
And yes, I'm aware of Manchester City's "dark arts" in the form of tactical fouls, especially when the opponents are on the break.
Again, you, I and every non-City fan knows, for one reason or another, City is given the benefit. I cannot stand how there is one rule for the other 19 clubs. It's why the result of these 115 charges is so pivotal to the league.
MetalFingaz wrote:Rodri reportedly out for the season with an ACL injury.
MaliBrah wrote:MetalFingaz wrote:Rodri reportedly out for the season with an ACL injury.
They looked really good without him to start the season but thats a huge blow and twist in the title race.
LDNMagic90 wrote:Michael Oliver has never sent off a Man City player in the 47 times he’s reffed in their games. He’s probably near the top of the list of my most hated refs along with David ‘I let the games get out of control' Coote.
LDNMagic90 wrote:Michael Oliver has never sent off a Man City player in the 47 times he’s reffed in their games. He’s probably near the top of the list of my most hated refs along with David ‘I let the games get out of control' Coote.
LDNMagic90 wrote:Michael Oliver has never sent off a Man City player in the 47 times he’s reffed in their games. He’s probably near the top of the list of my most hated refs along with David ‘I let the games get out of control' Coote.
Wisky4life wrote:ManU anyone??
Unless Ten Hag wins Europa. He is out. No identity for this team.
I think we host the Spurs this weekend
Baseline81 wrote:Wisky4life wrote:ManU anyone??
Unless Ten Hag wins Europa. He is out. No identity for this team.
I think we host the Spurs this weekend
You think he'll make it that far into the season?
As to his identity, that's been an issue from the outset. His first season, maybe you excuse it for the players he inherited. But surely you think after the amount Manchester United have spent on transfers, you'd see one by now.
As a Liverpool fan, I'm enjoying Ten Hag's reign. Long may it continue. But if I was a Manchester United fan, I'd be fuming.
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