Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley…

[Clyde_Style]

We can get away in the regular season with PF playing as center with the rebounding power we've got out of role players, but god damn, we gotta trade this guy mid-season for the playoffs. We are not getting anywhere without center in 2025. If you look at the top 10 best players in the League - Jokic, Giannis, Embiid, Luka, SGA, Lebron and Brunson and only Curry, Tatum and Durant are perimeter first threats.

We are not living in 2017.

Julius is our low post threat, he finally figured out that his strength is bullying his way to the basket and either finishing or finding the open man, now with better shooters surrounding him.

Except he is not available to start the season

[WargamesX]

Wow. Here we are. Convincing ourselves that Precious/Sims is a good thing. I love me some Precious! Getting OG as filler in that trade was awesome! Sims though? He is gonna have to take a leap.

I won't worry about health though. Precious was playing 48mpg for like 3 months!

Brunson/Deuce
Bridges/DDV
OG/Hart
Randle
Precious/Sims

We are a small ball team by default at this point. Maybe we play better that way? Hope so. Makes more sense why Thibs was discussing Randle at the 5 now. He knew Mitch wasn't going to be ready and Shart left us at the altar.

Come on now

Admit it

We went from Mitch/IHart to Sims/Precious

[Jalen Bluntson]

You and I both.

Walk me through this thought process. We are losing depth immediately so, what is the upside?

They can switch better on the perimeter, Precious can hit free throws and has offense Mitch doesn’t which will open the floor more for Randle and Brunson.
Defensive rotations will be insane with these guys and any combination of OG, Mikal,Josh and Dante.

Small ball team by default. Ok. In theory, they should be a faster paced team with more space in the paint to operate.

Our defense will be sick on the wings regardless. Don't forget Deuce.

The flip side is we will lose offensive rebounding and defense in the paint. We will be giving up size. Does anyone really want Randle/OG banging down low for any length of time? We will lose depth.

I still think we need a center but, we could be worse off I suppose. I just want everyone to stay healthy this year. I think we can run with anyone right now even without Mitch but, blessing in disguise is a bit of a stretch to me.

[Wildcat]

Walk me through this thought process. We are losing depth immediately so, what is the upside?

I'm high on Precious and I think most people are overlooking him because they still feel the burn of I-Quitinstein.

He’s good but just based on size alone he doesn’t bring the rim protection that Mitch/Ihart gave.

Also, the real plus of the Mitch/Ihart/Sims trio was that it gave the Knicks 18 hard fouls to give before they had to play it “safe” on defense from the center position. It being just Sims and Precious is far from ideal, and I think they are going to struggle defensively against teams who are going to hunt for fouls against Sims and Precious.

The good news is we have guys who can guard at the wing and perimeter to make that harder to do, but whenever the foul issue does happen the Knicks are going to be in for a bad night.

Thinking about the East alone, I can only think of Joel and Bam that would go foul hunting with success. Like you said, with the perimeter D, I don't think there will be many attacks to the basket as we seen in the past. I'm rooting for Sims because of his jersey. I really have no choice, but I think Precious will be a pleasant surprise on both ends of the court.

[Jalen Bluntson]

So, the new line of thought is we will be a small ball team. No choice to start the season. Seeing how far this team got last year without Mitch/Randle/OG most of the time is a little comforting now that I look at things.

If we play a fast paced transition based game, we are set up to do fine. If we play half court grind out the win, I think we run the risk of injuries to Randle/OG. With Thibs on board to run a small ball lineup with Randle at the 5 is he also gonna up the tempo we play at? TBD.

We need a center. Sims has a lot to prove.

[mpharris36]

I feel like Josh Hart just went form a 24-28 minute guy to a 40 minute guy with this news. Thibs needs his rebounding.

[Zenzibar]

If this isn't news and they knew about it... I don't know what they were thinking. There were some capable centers that signed at a decent price.

They need to stop yanking their own chains and just sign Dwight Howard. Whatever he has left is better than whatever we got and he might actually have the cajones to punch Embiid.

I'm for all this. Give me some defense... I'm sure he is willing to be a 5th option and just be on the nba court again.

Dwight Diddy! Fk NO! What's wrong with some of you?

[3toheadmelo]

James Edward saying Nick Richard’s is on our radar

Richards, who league sources tell The Athletic is someone the Knicks have had on their radar this offseason, is a big, physical specimen with a good motor.

[Knicks Byke]

someone call Kyle O'Quinn

[Zenzibar]

I will be honest, I need to see something from Sims this year. He's 25 and I don't know what to make of him on either end. Can he rebound and defend at a high level?

no

Well then

I think that adding another big is imperative.

There's nothing wrong with platooning at any position. There's no such thing as a perfect team.

But someone has gotta be able to hold down the defensive glass. Offensive rebounds are a luxury. You have to be able to clear the glass on a missed shot.

Bro, there are bums out there and we would have to delve into our young core to get a deal done for a borderline scrub. Let's wait until the trading deadline and see where we're at. Let's not sell the wife to just pay one month's rent, now if we were buying a house, I'll consider it. LOL

[spree8]

I like Stewart, but he’s only played 6 more games than Mitch the past two seasons. Not sure trading Mitch for him solves our availability problem. But he can shoot 3’s well and is a hometown player so that’s cool. I think he’d be like a modern day Oakley type here.

[thebuzzardman]

someone call Kyle O'Quinn

Obligatory: Knicks want the KOQ

[thebuzzardman]

Mitch eating deep fried possums, drinking PBR and racing lifted pickup trucks down the street, Randle making videos, wrestling fat Japanese guys, dunking on toddlers. Both guys doing everything but getting ready for the season.

These two can't handle success. Time to move on.

[3toheadmelo]

I like Stewart, but he’s only played 6 more games than Mitch the past two seasons. Not sure trading Mitch for him solves our availability problem. But he can shoot 3’s well and is a hometown player so that’s cool. I think he’d be like a modern day Oakley type here.

James Edward also said we would have to give up Mitch, Deuce and a 1st round pick for him. Way too expensive for him who might not be that much of an upgrade over Precious imo

[FrozenEnvelope]

As long as Mitch is healthy and available come April/May/June, that's all I care about. We'll be fine and have options to survive in the regular season. Someone will step up and it will force Thibs to give the small ball lineup a legit chance with extended minutes. Both Randle and OG are not tall but both have the strength and rebounding to play there and you also have Hart who is the best rebounder in the league.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

As long as Mitch is healthy and available come April/May/June, that's all I care about. We'll be fine and have options to survive in the regular season. Someone will step up and it will force Thibs to give the small ball lineup a legit chance with extended minutes. Both Randle and OG are not tall but both have the strength and rebounding to play there and you also have Hart who is the best rebounder in the league.

[Zenzibar]

Can I interest you in a serviceable 3x NBA champion center who is still a free agent and who was always Michell Robinsons ceiling as an nba player(although at looks as if he will never reach it)

Spoiler:

Watch on YouTube

[3toheadmelo]

As long as Mitch is healthy and available come April/May/June, that's all I care about. We'll be fine and have options to survive in the regular season. Someone will step up and it will force Thibs to give the small ball lineup a legit chance with extended minutes. Both Randle and OG are not tall but both have the strength and rebounding to play there and you also have Hart who is the best rebounder in the league.

You can use that gif for any player Sham likes and it applies

[robillionaire]

James Edward saying Nick Richard’s is on our radar

Richards, who league sources tell The Athletic is someone the Knicks have had on their radar this offseason, is a big, physical specimen with a good motor.

[robillionaire]

Can I interest you in a serviceable 3x NBA champion center who is still a free agent and who was always Michell Robinsons ceiling as an nba player(although at looks as if he will never reach it)

Spoiler:

Watch on YouTube

You can make a lowlight reel for any player! Mitchell Robinson inexplicably giving up a 4 point play to Tyrese Maxey almost cost us a series!

But not anybody can drop 33 pts 20 reb and 6 blk. We need his 3x championship and Olympic gold medalist dna

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