Dak Prescott thread

[Micah Prescott]

No one is saying the defense wasn’t at fault. Clearly they suck. But just because they were bad doesn’t mean Dak wasn’t also at fault. He also sucked for a vast majority of the game. Both can be true.

Honestly I think he was the only bright spot that game, he almost made an absolutely epic comeback, throwing to Turpin and Tolbert who are C-Grade WRs.

None of that was "garbage time" either, we actually had a shot at winning, and if the rest of the team didn't drop the ball (Lamb literally) we probably would have won.

Hell if we just had one competent interior lineman on defense we probably win that game.

I’m sorry I just cannot forget that he played terrible for 3 1/2 quarters. And yes the defense was at fault too. Micah and Tank playing hero ball, the DT’s getting thrown around like rag dolls. The DB’s lifting their skirts. It was bad all the way around. I don’t care that they tried to play catchup once Baltimore let off the gas.

The ONLY two players that deserve any kind of praise from this game are Brandon Aubrey and Bryan Anger.

He didn't play bad for 3 1/2 quarters. He drove down the field to have CeeDee fumble the game away. You're not BJJ, you're smart enough to understand that the offense can fail to put up points without it being on the QB.

Honestly it doesn't even matter at what time he made the TD passes. If they were spread out one in the 2nd and then one in the 3rd then suddenly that makes it better?

[Micah Prescott]

Dallas defense has given up 29.7 PPG

Only the Panthers and Rams are worse.

Not sure how that massive drop off happened, considering we gained Diggs and lost not much. Mazi should have matured too. Zimmer has managed to transform a top-10 defense into arguably the worst defense in the NFL.


Dak doh, because the reality is "he can do no right"

Look I don’t think you’re a bad guy but I do think that Cowboys fans like you are why Jerry will never change and therefore we will forever be stuck on this mediocre treadmill. I mean why would Jerry ever change when he has hundreds of thousands of fans like you that will praise a mediocre QB. I really don’t think there is anything Dak could do (or couldn’t do) to make you see him for what he really is. You will always be a super fan.

The rest of us see through his empty stats. The truth is Dak is an average (at best) QB on a team loaded with talent at the skill positions (minus RB this season). You put a winner on this team like Joe Burrow (just an example) and they likely go very deep into the playoffs. You replace Pat Mahomes with Dak and they’re out in the 1st round of the playoffs. He just doesn’t have IT.

You're blaming Cowboy fans now?

The largest fan base on the planet and it would stay that way with or without Jerry or Dak or anyone. The fan base is beyond anything put on the field of it and always has been.

Maybe BJJ has gotten to you....

[Micah Prescott]

You put a winner on this team like Joe Burrow (just an example) and they likely go very deep into the playoffs.

How much winning has Burrow been doing this season?

[bluejerseyjinx]

Yeah did you hear Shannon Sharpe go off on CeeDee? He thinks CeeDee's fumble is the entire reason we lost. And we both know it should be Dak yelling at CeeDee. CeeDee claims he was just acting out in frustrated with himself though, and not anyone else.

IMO anyone who watched that game should understand that the MAIN REASON Dallas lost was their inability to stop the run. Dak, while not perfect, had no INTs, and was the lone reason we were able to make it close at the end.

No one is saying the defense wasn’t at fault. Clearly they suck. But just because they were bad doesn’t mean Dak wasn’t also at fault. He also sucked for a vast majority of the game. Both can be true.

Dak is never at fault. Like ever.. The only QB that is completely flawless. At least there’s some cowboy fans like you that is starting to see through the BS.

One thing I’ve noticed that dak does that I do think might deceive some cowboy fans is he will not do much in the first 3 quarters and then the other team goes into “coast mode” and might actually take some players out because they have a big lead. This is when dak shines. He puts up big statttzz in these moments and I see it, fans will be like “yeah but dak had all these yards and all these TDs!!” But there’s context to those stats.. a lot of it came when the ravens took their foot off the gas..lol but when he does that, it does deceive some fans for sure, mostly the fans that just love to look at stat sheets and value that more than anything.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Dallas defense has given up 29.7 PPG

Only the Panthers and Rams are worse.

Not sure how that massive drop off happened, considering we gained Diggs and lost not much. Mazi should have matured too. Zimmer has managed to transform a top-10 defense into arguably the worst defense in the NFL.


Dak doh, because the reality is "he can do no right"

Look I don’t think you’re a bad guy but I do think that Cowboys fans like you are why Jerry will never change and therefore we will forever be stuck on this mediocre treadmill. I mean why would Jerry ever change when he has hundreds of thousands of fans like you that will praise a mediocre QB. I really don’t think there is anything Dak could do (or couldn’t do) to make you see him for what he really is. You will always be a super fan.

The rest of us see through his empty stats. The truth is Dak is an average (at best) QB on a team loaded with talent at the skill positions (minus RB this season). You put a winner on this team like Joe Burrow (just an example) and they likely go very deep into the playoffs. You replace Pat Mahomes with Dak and they’re out in the 1st round of the playoffs. He just doesn’t have IT.

[Mr B]

You put a winner on this team like Joe Burrow (just an example) and they likely go very deep into the playoffs.

How much winning has Burrow been doing this season?

The Bengals have one of the worst OL’s in the league, always have except for the late 80’s. If Burrow had Dak’s OL this team likely has at least 1 SB appearance.

[Micah Prescott]

You put a winner on this team like Joe Burrow (just an example) and they likely go very deep into the playoffs.

How much winning has Burrow been doing this season?

The Bengals have one of the worst OL’s in the league, always have except for the late 80’s. If Burrow had Dak’s OL this team likely has at least 1 SB appearance.

Our line is garbage we can't run or pass protect. But with Burrow and others it is "the teams fault" gotcha

[Cactus Jack]

The Bengals have one of the worst OL’s in the league, always have except for the late 80’s. If Burrow had Dak’s OL this team likely has at least 1 SB appearance.

Our line is garbage we can't run or pass protect. But with Burrow and others it is "the teams fault" gotcha

Neither is really true.

The one thing that is true is that there's a lot of poor offensive line play around the league. But Dallas has been better than most.

[Cactus Jack]

I know I'm not breaking news. But Dallas is 6th in points scored & 30th in points allowed. In other words, the offense isn't the issue.

[bluejerseyjinx]

I know I'm not breaking news. But Dallas is 6th in points scored & 30th in points allowed. In other words, the offense isn't the issue.

And that's with no running game and piss poor play by Dak, aside from garbage time. Of course there are times the offense doesn't do anything to help out the defense.

[Mariner]

I know I'm not breaking news. But Dallas is 6th in points scored & 30th in points allowed. In other words, the offense isn't the issue.

The cowboys have given up the most rushing yards in three games since 1963.
We really don’t need to start an investigation

[Micah Prescott]

The Bengals have one of the worst OL’s in the league, always have except for the late 80’s. If Burrow had Dak’s OL this team likely has at least 1 SB appearance.

Our line is garbage we can't run or pass protect. But with Burrow and others it is "the teams fault" gotcha

Neither is really true.

The one thing that is true is that there's a lot of poor offensive line play around the league. But Dallas has been better than most.

The only one of these scores that really holds weight with me is PFF and they have us rated a 61.

Regardless of pass protection, we have ZERO run game, and regardless if that is on the line or the runners (probably both) it goes against the notion that Burrow could win here if he just had Dak's great surroundings.

[Micah Prescott]

I know I'm not breaking news. But Dallas is 6th in points scored & 30th in points allowed. In other words, the offense isn't the issue.

Yeah and this will likely be the theme the entire year, defense giving up everything, and Dak putting up tons or yardage and points.

But sadly many only have the brain capacity to think like:

team wins: "QB GOOD!"
team losses: "QB BAD!"



That said I'm sure Dak will have some games where he is actually bad, but the Ravens wasn't one of them. If he is always trying to play catch up, that will lead to forced deep throws, which will rack up some INTs.

[DOT]

Surprised the Jags are so high tbh

Best line we've had in ages I guess.

[Cactus Jack]

Regardless of pass protection, we have ZERO run game, and regardless if that is on the line or the runners (probably both) it goes against the notion that Burrow could win here if he just had Dak's great surroundings.

Burrow is overrated. He gets way too much credit because he played in a Super Bowl. The OL argument isn't a valid excuse anymore. His play just isn't consistent enough. The gap between him and Mahomes & Allen is fairly significant imo. Even Rodgers at age 40 is still a top 3 QB, who would run circles around him.

[Micah Prescott]

Regardless of pass protection, we have ZERO run game, and regardless if that is on the line or the runners (probably both) it goes against the notion that Burrow could win here if he just had Dak's great surroundings.

Burrow is overrated. He gets way too much credit because he played in a Super Bowl. The OL argument isn't a valid excuse anymore. His play just isn't consistent enough. The gap between him and Mahomes & Allen is fairly significant imo. Even Rodgers at age 40 is still a top 3 QB, who would run circles around him.

Agreed, and generally speaking all QBs get too much credit and too much blame for wins and losses. That is how it's always been and probably how it always will be, but I will still point out that it is stupid every time.

This is the ultimate team sport yet many internalize all of it's complexity as though they are watching a 1v1 boxing match between 2 QBs.

[bluejerseyjinx]

I know I'm not breaking news. But Dallas is 6th in points scored & 30th in points allowed. In other words, the offense isn't the issue.

Yeah and this will likely be the theme the entire year, defense giving up everything, and Dak putting up tons or yardage and points.

But sadly many only have the brain capacity to think like:

team wins: "QB GOOD!"
team losses: "QB BAD!"



That said I'm sure Dak will have some games where he is actually bad, but the Ravens wasn't one of them. If he is always trying to play catch up, that will lead to forced deep throws, which will rack up some INTs.

Perhaps if Dak and the offense started better he wouldn't be playing from behind all the time. Its not always the defenses fault they look bad when the offense never does a damn thing to help out. And it seems now that your boy is the highest paid player in the league expectations don't come with it.

[Micah Prescott]

I know I'm not breaking news. But Dallas is 6th in points scored & 30th in points allowed. In other words, the offense isn't the issue.

Yeah and this will likely be the theme the entire year, defense giving up everything, and Dak putting up tons or yardage and points.

But sadly many only have the brain capacity to think like:

team wins: "QB GOOD!"
team losses: "QB BAD!"



That said I'm sure Dak will have some games where he is actually bad, but the Ravens wasn't one of them. If he is always trying to play catch up, that will lead to forced deep throws, which will rack up some INTs.

Perhaps if Dak and the offense started better he wouldn't be playing from behind all the time. Its not always the defenses fault they look bad when the offense never does a damn thing to help out. And it seems now that your boy is the highest paid player in the league expectations don't come with it.

As Cactus pointed out only two defenses have given up more points than Dallas, but you still point at Dak

Hey maybe if Dak could just throw 100 TDs a game we wouldn't even need to field a defense at all!!!!!! We could save that cap space completely!!!!!!


My rule of thumb, if the offense scores 21+ points, we should win the game. It's on the defense if we don't.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Yeah and this will likely be the theme the entire year, defense giving up everything, and Dak putting up tons or yardage and points.

But sadly many only have the brain capacity to think like:

team wins: "QB GOOD!"
team losses: "QB BAD!"



That said I'm sure Dak will have some games where he is actually bad, but the Ravens wasn't one of them. If he is always trying to play catch up, that will lead to forced deep throws, which will rack up some INTs.

Perhaps if Dak and the offense started better he wouldn't be playing from behind all the time. Its not always the defenses fault they look bad when the offense never does a damn thing to help out. And it seems now that your boy is the highest paid player in the league expectations don't come with it.

As Cactus pointed out only two defenses have given up more points than Dallas, but you still point at Dak

Hey maybe if Dak could just throw 100 TDs a game we wouldn't even need to field a defense at all!!!!!! We could save that cap space completely!!!!!!


My rule of thumb, if the offense scores 21+ points, we should win the game. It's on the defense if we don't.

If the offense is prepared, focused and ready to go right from the beginning, perhaps score on their first few drives, and keeps our defense off the field as much as possible, it would be hugely beneficial. Instead it once again has been way to many filed goals and bad throws, sacks and turnover in the Red zine. That is if they don't have all those early 3's and outs first. You sure don't expect much for 60 mill per year. Remember, its Jerry that has been saying since last year, " The Cowboys will only go as far as Dak will take us".

[Mariner]

Perhaps if Dak and the offense started better he wouldn't be playing from behind all the time. Its not always the defenses fault they look bad when the offense never does a damn thing to help out. And it seems now that your boy is the highest paid player in the league expectations don't come with it.

As Cactus pointed out only two defenses have given up more points than Dallas, but you still point at Dak

Hey maybe if Dak could just throw 100 TDs a game we wouldn't even need to field a defense at all!!!!!! We could save that cap space completely!!!!!!


My rule of thumb, if the offense scores 21+ points, we should win the game. It's on the defense if we don't.

If the offense is prepared, focused and ready to go right from the beginning, perhaps score on their first few drives, and keeps our defense off the field as much as possible, it would be hugely beneficial. Instead it once again has been way to many filed goals and bad throws, sacks and turnover in the Red zine. That is if they don't have all those early 3's and outs first. You sure don't expect much for 60 mill per year. Remember, its Jerry that has been saying since last year, " The Cowboys will only go as far as Dak will take us".

The cowboys scored on their first three drives against the saints.