Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond

[spree2kawhi]

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Goodbye Randle.

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I’m not saying here that the Knicks have spoken to the Blazers about Ayton. So, please don’t suggest in aggregation that they have. Thank you.

Not saying NYK or POR would do it but Ayton + Timelord for Randle + Mitch + Sims pretty much works, salary wise... Maybe they throw in a protected 1st to balance value...

Why would Portland trade for Randle? They’re rebuilding…

[sol537]

Goodbye Randle.

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Not saying NYK or POR would do it but Ayton + Timelord for Randle + Mitch + Sims pretty much works, salary wise... Maybe they throw in a protected 1st to balance value...

Why would Portland trade for Randle? They’re rebuilding…

Either 1) they're looking to just amass as much talent as they can get (like the jailblazer days) or 2) 3-team deal whereby Randle goes to a 3rd team and Mitch stays in Portland.

[thebuzzardman]

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Isn't this trade basically impossible?

What is it? Randle and Mitch? So the Knicks thin out PF and also lose center depth? Okay.

Yeah it’s basically impossible unless we give up significant pieces like Randle which the Knicks don’t seem interested in moving. Begley said we did background work on Ayton in the past so I think this was before Randle took that leap to an all nba player. Doubt they do this now.

Even in the past the Knicks knew Mitch wasn't it.

[Wildcat]

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Isn't this trade basically impossible?

What is it? Randle and Mitch? So the Knicks thin out PF and also lose center depth? Okay.

Yeah it’s basically impossible unless we give up significant pieces like Randle which the Knicks don’t seem interested in moving. Begley said we did background work on Ayton in the past so I think this was before Randle took that leap to an all nba player. Doubt they do this now.

I think the background had less to do with Randle and more to do with Mitch when Ayton's contract was at its lowest before the extension. I recall "rumors" before he inked that deal the Knicks were monitoring the situation.

[rajajackal]

What? You have no faith in Hukporti? We could have had Duren too if they managed their cap better.

Generally, this front office has been pretty good but actually using the picks has been a blind spot.

recently yes. but they got us quickley mcbride and grimes. obi was probably selected too high (for non basketball reasons) but he was still a useful and fun pick for us - if we actually tried to get fair value for him, we would've probably been happy enough with the result. but he was essentially represented by our FO so they simply put him where he was best suited like an agent would. i maintain that we passed on haliburton because leon rose took the knicks job with jalen brunson in mind. who else should we have picked then? maxey is also a point guard and we had plans for quickley just a few picks later

I still don't get why people say this though. Which team was going to give up a 1st round pick for him? He couldn't even hold a starting spot in Indiana and his defense is still terrible along with his rebounding. He's an outdated big in today's league.

i didn't say we were gonna get a first. but we could've gotten a player or 2 instead of having no backup for randle going into the season. also he's a solid playoff performer as we saw vs atlanta and when he played against us on indiana. he has more value than 2 seconds. it's clear they were just doing him a solid and sending him somewhere he'd fit better

[KnixinSix]

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Begley reporting on Ayton interest.

[KnixinSix]

Isn't this trade basically impossible?

What is it? Randle and Mitch? So the Knicks thin out PF and also lose center depth? Okay.

Yeah it’s basically impossible unless we give up significant pieces like Randle which the Knicks don’t seem interested in moving. Begley said we did background work on Ayton in the past so I think this was before Randle took that leap to an all nba player. Doubt they do this now.

I think the background had less to do with Randle and more to do with Mitch when Ayton's contract was at its lowest before the extension. I recall "rumors" before he inked that deal the Knicks were monitoring the situation.

Randle and McBride add up perfectly from a salary match standpoint. Or Randle/Simms/Dadiet.

You get your C. You get 4 years of him vs just 1 more year of Randle then potentially losing him for nothing.

[Wildcat]

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Begley reporting on Ayton interest.

Directly from Ian:

"I’d add Ayton to the list because the Knicks have had interest in him - and have done background work on him - in the past. Ayton averaged 22.7 points and 12.5 rebounds (3.6 offensive) in 18 games played after the All-Star break last season. He shot 58 percent from the field during that stretch and has playoff/NBA Finals experience.

(I’m not saying here that the Knicks have spoken to the Blazers about Ayton. So, please don’t suggest in aggregation that they have. Thank you.)"

I hope this misinformation stops here, else I'll become a content creator to check folks like this and you.

[thebuzzardman]

28 wins

[KnixinSix]

Not saying NYK or POR would do it but Ayton + Timelord for Randle + Mitch + Sims pretty much works, salary wise... Maybe they throw in a protected 1st to balance value...

Why would Portland trade for Randle? They’re rebuilding…

Either 1) they're looking to just amass as much talent as they can get (like the jailblazer days) or 2) 3-team deal whereby Randle goes to a 3rd team and Mitch stays in Portland.

They probably want the youth to grow together. For a rebuilding team that just drafted a highly rated C at pick 7, Aytons 4 year contract is something they very likely want to shed.

Randle comes off in 1 year for them and they can get a McBride and maybe something else in the trade.

We get a C that can replace some of Randles scoring and be better than I Hart (at least offensively). Ayton is an uber athletic C who can rim protect a bit and would be developing under one of the best big man Coaches in the NBA.

[KnixinSix]

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Begley reporting on Ayton interest.

Directly from Ian:

"I’d add Ayton to the list because the Knicks have had interest in him - and have done background work on him - in the past. Ayton averaged 22.7 points and 12.5 rebounds (3.6 offensive) in 18 games played after the All-Star break last season. He shot 58 percent from the field during that stretch and has playoff/NBA Finals experience.

(I’m not saying here that the Knicks have spoken to the Blazers about Ayton. So, please don’t suggest in aggregation that they have. Thank you.)"

I hope this misinformation stops here, else I'll become a content creator to check folks like this and you.

But he is not saying they haven't spoke to them either.

So why bring it all up if there wasn't interest . He is the guy closest to Rose. So everyhting that comes out of his mouth is strategically said.

Portland is probably a motivated seller and we need a C possibly more than we need Randle.

[newyorker4ever]

Yeah it’s basically impossible unless we give up significant pieces like Randle which the Knicks don’t seem interested in moving. Begley said we did background work on Ayton in the past so I think this was before Randle took that leap to an all nba player. Doubt they do this now.

I think the background had less to do with Randle and more to do with Mitch when Ayton's contract was at its lowest before the extension. I recall "rumors" before he inked that deal the Knicks were monitoring the situation.

Randle and McBride add up perfectly from a salary match standpoint. Or Randle/Simms/Dadiet.

You get your C. You get 4 years of him vs just 1 more year of Randle then potentially losing him for nothing.

Why would we want Ayton? Thibs and Ayton would 100% be oil and water with Thibs wanting full effort from his players and Ayton being known to not always give full effort amongst other issues he has. His talent is great but what comes with it wouldn't work with Thibs and could cause locker room issues.

[3toheadmelo]

recently yes. but they got us quickley mcbride and grimes. obi was probably selected too high (for non basketball reasons) but he was still a useful and fun pick for us - if we actually tried to get fair value for him, we would've probably been happy enough with the result. but he was essentially represented by our FO so they simply put him where he was best suited like an agent would. i maintain that we passed on haliburton because leon rose took the knicks job with jalen brunson in mind. who else should we have picked then? maxey is also a point guard and we had plans for quickley just a few picks later

I still don't get why people say this though. Which team was going to give up a 1st round pick for him? He couldn't even hold a starting spot in Indiana and his defense is still terrible along with his rebounding. He's an outdated big in today's league.

i didn't say we were gonna get a first. but we could've gotten a player or 2 instead of having no backup for randle going into the season. also he's a solid playoff performer as we saw vs atlanta and when he played against us on indiana. he has more value than 2 seconds. it's clear they were just doing him a solid and sending him somewhere he'd fit better

Who could we have gotten tho?

[rajajackal]

holy smokes mantis won

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[Guano]

Well damn iron Mantis won

[KnixinSix]

holy smokes mantis won

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Booooom wowwwwwwwwwww

I cant believe they are including Donte one of the Nova quartet in this deal.

[Darthlukey]

I have soured on kat over the years, but gee the knicks robbed the wolves blind. You guys got much better I think!

[spree2kawhi]

Why would Portland trade for Randle? They’re rebuilding…

Either 1) they're looking to just amass as much talent as they can get (like the jailblazer days) or 2) 3-team deal whereby Randle goes to a 3rd team and Mitch stays in Portland.

They probably want the youth to grow together. For a rebuilding team that just drafted a highly rated C at pick 7, Aytons 4 year contract is something they very likely want to shed.

Randle comes off in 1 year for them and they can get a McBride and maybe something else in the trade.

We get a C that can replace some of Randles scoring and be better than I Hart (at least offensively). Ayton is an uber athletic C who can rim protect a bit and would be developing under one of the best big man Coaches in the NBA.

While I would trade Randle and Robinson for Towns, I would be hesitant to deal him for Ayton. He’s good and less erratic than Randle. Plus I’d love Landlord, but neither is half the player Towns is.

[spree2kawhi]

holy smokes mantis won

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LOL.

[spree2kawhi]