Knicks Acquire Karl-Anthony Towns From Wolves For Julius Randle, Donte DiVincenzo

Post #1 » by **RealGM Wiretap** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 2:21 am

The New York Knicks have agreed to a trade with the Minnesota Timberwolves of Julius Randle and Donte DiVincenzo for Karl-Anthony Towns.

Via Shams Charania/The Athletic

BigTex · Post #2 » by **BigTex** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 2:41 am

Seems like an awfully light return for the T-Wolves.

elmdawgg69 · Post #3 » by **elmdawgg69** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 2:49 am

Minnesota was looking to dump Towns’ salary while remaining competitive. They likely let Randle walk after this season, or hope he picks up his option.

Pickled Prunes · Post #4 » by **Pickled Prunes** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:01 am

No Woj, no problem.

NYK are going to be solid!!

DoctorDunc · Post #5 » by **DoctorDunc** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:23 am

Divo is the beast in the trade from a playoff perspective. Towns is soft and a huge risk in MSG. Knicks should not have thrown the pick in.

Tim Kempton · Post #6 » by **Tim Kempton** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:47 am

Hate this for the Knicks. KAT is soft and okay with being a career loser. Not a good match for the NYC crowd.

pushfloater · Post #7 » by **pushfloater** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 4:01 am

Very good move by the Twolves imo. They got tougher and Naz Reid is ready for a bigger role.

Roy T · Post #8 » by **Roy T** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 4:40 am

BigTex wrote:Seems like an awfully light return for the T-Wolves.

I was a bit shocked its only one first rounder. Pretty weird trade, especially if Randle walks after this Season.

GMjobZK · Post #9 » by **GMjobZK** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 6:06 am

Roy T wrote:
BigTex wrote:Seems like an awfully light return for the T-Wolves.

I was a bit shocked its only one first rounder. Pretty weird trade, especially if Randle walks after this Season.

I agree… this was a steal by the Knicks.

NoStatsGuy · Post #10 » by **NoStatsGuy** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 6:31 am

Tim Kempton wrote:Hate this for the Knicks. KAT is soft and okay with being a career loser. Not a good match for the NYC crowd.

exactly this. plus thubs didnt like him, when he was in minny. thibs is gone after this season.

not sure if this was the move. im dissapointed

Alex_84 · Post #11 » by **Alex_84** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 6:50 am

Tim Kempton wrote:Hate this for the Knicks. KAT is soft and okay with being a career loser. Not a good match for the NYC crowd.

KAT is one of the best offensive forces in NBA, probably the second best when it comes to bigs. And him going to the Knicks clearly shows that he is not a career loser nor he doesn't wanna be.

spree2kawhi · Post #12 » by **spree2kawhi** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:17 am

GMjobZK wrote:
Roy T wrote:
BigTex wrote:Seems like an awfully light return for the T-Wolves.

I was a bit shocked its only one first rounder. Pretty weird trade, especially if Randle walks after this Season.

I agree… this was a steal by the Knicks.

It isn’t a steal if you look at how good DiVincenzo is. But Towns is a great player and the Knicks are legit contenders now.

NoStatsGuy · Post #13 » by **NoStatsGuy** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:49 am

Alex_84 wrote:
Tim Kempton wrote:Hate this for the Knicks. KAT is soft and okay with being a career loser. Not a good match for the NYC crowd.

KAT is one of the best offensive forces in NBA, probably the second best when it comes to bigs. And him going to the Knicks clearly shows that he is not a career loser nor he doesn't wanna be.

he did not chose to go to the knicks. in fact, reports are out that Towns' camp is shocked as much as we are.

Cyclonus12 · Post #14 » by **Cyclonus12** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 10:37 am

Randle is on a $28.9 contract this season

Strange... I was pretty sure the league minimum for someone with Randle's years of experience was around $3 million, but if he can make it work with making just $28.90 this year, more power to him!

Post #15 » by **TheCage4** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 10:45 am

NoStatsGuy wrote:
Tim Kempton wrote:Hate this for the Knicks. KAT is soft and okay with being a career loser. Not a good match for the NYC crowd.

exactly this. plus thubs didnt like him, when he was in minny. thibs is gone after this season.

not sure if this was the move. im dissapointed

So the HC the Knicks have been most successful with in recent memory, who was just re-signed to an extension, had no input on this trade and is acquiring a player he doesn’t like?

Are you feeling okay?

Roy T · Post #16 » by **Roy T** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 1:23 pm

Alex_84 wrote:KAT is one of the best offensive forces in NBA, probably the second best when it comes to bigs.

One can argue if he is a top 10 offensive big. nothing more nothing less…

Post #17 » by **Luv those Knicks** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 2:21 pm

Roy T wrote:
BigTex wrote:Seems like an awfully light return for the T-Wolves.

I was a bit shocked its only one first rounder. Pretty weird trade, especially if Randle walks after this Season.

The Wolves got salary relief, Randle being up after this year and Kat being max or close to it for the next 3 or 4 years. They can flip Randle at the deadline (I think - not sure the timing) or resign him or sign and trade/let him walk. Randle isn't KAT, but he's a good player so he can help them compete this year too.

DDV is a 3-point shooter they coveted, and the pick is what it is, a throw in. It might turn into a 2nd rounder, or, maybe Detroit wins some in 2026 and it turns into a 10-16 pick, give or take.

But mostly I think they did it to cut salary and keep the core that they could with a couple players they plan to resign next year.

Knicks reasons for doing the trade were obvious. They think they have a better shot at winning a title with KAT than with Randle & DDV.

The return is light but the salary relief Mini wanted is a big part of that.

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As a Knicks fan, I'm more of a wait and see than a "yeah we got a star". We already got the 2nd offensive option with Bridges in that trade a few months earlier. Now Kat is the 2nd option and Bridges the 3rd . . . or something. We lose some toughness and grit. Randle was a physical player, and Kat's big, but he's less physical. Granted he brings an offensive arsenal that Randle thought he had, but really didn't.

Knicks have a new roster, we have to see how it gels. On paper it's interesting.

C: Kat/Mitch (when he returns)
PF: will Precious start? Will they slide OGA up to PF
SF: OGA
SG: Bridges
PG: Brunson

Bench, Josh Hart, McBride, a couple of PGs. Sims. Morris probably makes the team now. They could use another big for depth, especially without Mitch for a few months.

I don't know, but there's a lot of talent there. It'll be a fun team to watch.

Rek · Post #18 » by **Rek** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 2:53 pm

Luv those Knicks wrote:
Roy T wrote:
BigTex wrote:Seems like an awfully light return for the T-Wolves.

I was a bit shocked its only one first rounder. Pretty weird trade, especially if Randle walks after this Season.

The Wolves got salary relief, Randle being up after this year and Kat being max or close to it for the next 3 or 4 years. They can flip Randle at the deadline (I think - not sure the timing) or resign him or sign and trade/let him walk. Randle isn't KAT, but he's a good player so he can help them compete this year too.

DDV is a 3-point shooter they coveted, and the pick is what it is, a throw in. It might turn into a 2nd rounder, or, maybe Detroit wins some in 2026 and it turns into a 10-16 pick, give or take.

But mostly I think they did it to cut salary and keep the core that they could with a couple players they plan to resign next year.

Knicks reasons for doing the trade were obvious. They think they have a better shot at winning a title with KAT than with Randle & DDV.

The return is light but the salary relief Mini wanted is a big part of that.

- -

As a Knicks fan, I'm more of a wait and see than a "yeah we got a star". We already got the 2nd offensive option with Bridges in that trade a few months earlier. Now Kat is the 2nd option and Bridges the 3rd . . . or something. We lose some toughness and grit. Randle was a physical player, and Kat's big, but he's less physical. Granted he brings an offensive arsenal that Randle thought he had, but really didn't.

Knicks have a new roster, we have to see how it gels. On paper it's interesting.

C: Kat/Mitch (when he returns)
PF: will Precious start? Will they slide OGA up to PF
SF: OGA
SG: Bridges
PG: Brunson

Bench, Josh Hart, McBride, a couple of PGs. Sims. Morris probably makes the team now. They could use another big for depth, especially without Mitch for a few months.

I don't know, but there's a lot of talent there. It'll be a fun team to watch.

I would slide KAT to the 4 when Mitch is ready and then just slide back to the 5 whenever Mitch is on the bench.

4 spot will be interesting to watch throughout the season. Agree that the Morris signing has more weight now. Hope he can stay healthy because he's a good fit IMO.

I think that they all just did Randle a favor with this trade because he'll 100% take this as motivation heading up to his next contract. Not the first rodeo for him. It will be interesting to see how he fits with the wolves.

Barcs · Post #19 » by **Barcs** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:21 pm

Um. Is KAT even better than Julius Randle? Doesn't that leave a gaping hole in our bench production?

Barcs · Post #20 » by **Barcs** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:23 pm

Alex_84 wrote:
Tim Kempton wrote:Hate this for the Knicks. KAT is soft and okay with being a career loser. Not a good match for the NYC crowd.

KAT is one of the best offensive forces in NBA, probably the second best when it comes to bigs. And him going to the Knicks clearly shows that he is not a career loser nor he doesn't wanna be.

Yeah, but he doesn't produce nearly as much as Randle, offensively.

We basically traded: 39 PPG (Randle + Donte) for 22PPG

I don't see how the Knicks get better. Would have made more sense to trade Mitch Robinson.