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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#761 » by TheGreenArrow » Sat Sep 28, 2024 1:17 pm

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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#762 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Sep 28, 2024 1:18 pm

Especially if he adds a jumper, can Precious paired with Towns give the Knicks a version of when the TWolves ran out Naz Reid with Towns?

Naz a much better 3 point shooter though
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#763 » by Wildcat » Sat Sep 28, 2024 1:20 pm

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Wildcat wrote:I'm still not super confident OG and Josh should be matched up on a nightly basis against power forwards. I wonder if the Knicks are eyeing a Robinson trade. Man, I-Hart and Robinson really took a **** on our roster with leaving town and getting injured.


Nothing changes, Sims is starting and Kat's the new 4.


Until I hear that from Thibs, this isn't official news.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#764 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Sep 28, 2024 1:20 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Especially if he adds a jumper, can Precious paired with Towns give the Knicks a version of when the TWolves ran out Naz Reid with Towns?

Naz a much better 3 point shooter though


Yeah I think offensively there's gonna be one non shooter on the floor most of the time but I expect end games scenarios where Hart is the guy who finishes games, with KAT playing 5.

It's not so bad tbh. Karl spacing the floor means that Brunson will be able to run wild in the paint and mid range
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#765 » by Tron Carter » Sat Sep 28, 2024 1:21 pm

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Post#766 » by StlHawksFan » Sat Sep 28, 2024 1:21 pm

Randle, DiVincenzo, and Bates-Diop out. Morris and Shamet are now pretty clearly making the team. Does Okeke takecthat 15th spot?

I was trying to figure out how the Charlitte side works. Basically Jeffries was S&T'ed using his early Bird rights to Charlotte into the Hornets' non-taxpayer MLE.

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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#767 » by StlHawksFan » Sat Sep 28, 2024 1:23 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:So i was thinking that KAT would play the 5 here but the general consensus is that he's playing the 4.

So

Precious/Karl/OG/Mikal/Brunson with Josh and Deuce as the main rotation? Sims backs up Precious and we'll probably end games with Hart on the floor.

Interesting to see how Thibs will handle this. Hopefully someone can step up off the bench so we can at least run an 8 to 9 man rotation in the regular season.

Edit: I forgot Marcus Morris is here.


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Post#768 » by FrozenEnvelope » Sat Sep 28, 2024 1:23 pm

Awful trade.

I get why it was done (better lineup against Boston) but I don't like it. Randle is better than KAT and DVo is our best shooter.

And KAT is hella soft. He's going to frustrate us a lot with his meak personality and shyness for physical play. He was better at this last season but playing in NYC with this media and these fans is way more challenging. He is from here and he somewhat grew up in a NYK household that watched the 90s so he knows what is expected. There is also his relationship with Thibs. KAT is older and more mature now, so his Thibs, so hopefully they find a common ground.

Sad to see Randle go. He was a pillar here and should be remembered in a positive light. He came here when KD and Kyrie were too scared too. He made All-Star teams and helped lead this franchise to the playoffs at a time where it seemed impossible. There were bad and frustrating moments but overall, Randle was a good Knick. And such a great role model as a father and family man. I will miss him.

DVo wasn't here long but he gave us one of the iconic moments in NYK history against Philly. He broke the 3pt record too. He will be missed. Fun player to watch and root for.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#769 » by SelbyCobra » Sat Sep 28, 2024 1:23 pm

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Kampuchea wrote:Randle was playing so well last season, not liking this move. KAT takes terrible shots and is targeted on Defense.


KAT has nearly a career 63% TS percentage. You may think his shot selection isn't good but he is one of the most EFF +20 pt scorers in the entire NBA.

Not saying he is without faults but the difference of Randles to KAT efficiency is like going from like De'Aaron Fox to Steph Curry.


There's a lot of visceral reaction in here that doesn't incorporate just how good KAT is at basketball. He's an historically efficient scorer as a big man star. Randle isn't just not has good as him, he's even trended into the opposite end of the spectrum of bad big man scoring efficiency. It's a truly significant, massive production upgrade; like not just swapping one piece for another that's slightly different and maybe better.

There's always the chance it doesn't work for all the reasons that make people dislike KAT, but the actual basketball production isn't even remotely one of them.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#770 » by DOT » Sat Sep 28, 2024 1:25 pm

How much y'all wanna bet once Mitch gets healthy Thibs starts him and KAT together?
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#771 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Sep 28, 2024 1:25 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:So i was thinking that KAT would play the 5 here but the general consensus is that he's playing the 4.

So

Precious/Karl/OG/Mikal/Brunson with Josh and Deuce as the main rotation? Sims backs up Precious and we'll probably end games with Hart on the floor.

Interesting to see how Thibs will handle this. Hopefully someone can step up off the bench so we can at least run an 8 to 9 man rotation in the regular season.

Edit: I forgot Marcus Morris is here.


Hart starts now.


I am fine either way. Sims i am uncertain about at C and Precious is good but undersized. However I do see the merits of playing Karl at PF.

I guess we'll see what Thibs will do
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#772 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Sep 28, 2024 1:27 pm

DOT wrote:How much y'all wanna bet once Mitch gets healthy Thibs starts him and KAT together?


I think that's a high possibility.

I dunno how that works defensively though
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#773 » by god shammgod » Sat Sep 28, 2024 1:28 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
DOT wrote:How much y'all wanna bet once Mitch gets healthy Thibs starts him and KAT together?


I think that's a high possibility.

I dunno how that works defensively though


the same way it worked with gobert and towns
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#774 » by Zenzibar » Sat Sep 28, 2024 1:28 pm

Wildcat wrote:
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Wildcat wrote:I'm still not super confident OG and Josh should be matched up on a nightly basis against power forwards. I wonder if the Knicks are eyeing a Robinson trade. Man, I-Hart and Robinson really took a **** on our roster with leaving town and getting injured.


Nothing changes, Sims is starting and Kat's the new 4.


Until I hear that from Thibs, this isn't official news.


Sims srarting was official before the trade, why would it change now? Randle was going to play some 5, now its Kat.

People saying Josh or Precious are starting, haven't been paying attention.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#775 » by DOT » Sat Sep 28, 2024 1:28 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
DOT wrote:How much y'all wanna bet once Mitch gets healthy Thibs starts him and KAT together?


I think that's a high possibility.

I dunno how that works defensively though

Same way KAT and Gobert worked defensively I guess. Park Mitch at the basket, have KAT guard the 4.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#776 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Sep 28, 2024 1:29 pm

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The world is against us. we've established we know KAT sucks so when he fcks the knicks in the playoffs we can take some comfort in the rest of the boards misery. Which is honestly one of the best parts of being a knicks fan.


so ya’ll not fans of the knicks just being right about your takes. clocked

The fact that you took guan0’s post literally is really sad.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#777 » by KnixinSix » Sat Sep 28, 2024 1:30 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Especially if he adds a jumper, can Precious paired with Towns give the Knicks a version of when the TWolves ran out Naz Reid with Towns?

Naz a much better 3 point shooter though


This team has loaded up and is deep at almost every position now. They can play multiple styles offensively AND defensively. They can shoot the 3 ball 1 to 5.

A Knick squad w/o Randle and OG and Mitch was able to go 7 in the 2nd round. Add Bridges and KAT to what they had last year?

We absolutely can match up with anyone if Thibs system is tweaked a bit to maximize the new players. Our D intensity is unmatched now we have depth and more spacing.
This is a formidable squad.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#778 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Sep 28, 2024 1:31 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:
DOT wrote:How much y'all wanna bet once Mitch gets healthy Thibs starts him and KAT together?


I think that's a high possibility.

I dunno how that works defensively though


the same way it worked with gobert and towns


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That's a good thing then right or no? Minnesota did pretty well with a big frontcourt

I worry about the defense though. I like Mitch but Rudy is a better defender.
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Post#779 » by Fury » Sat Sep 28, 2024 1:31 pm

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thebuzzardman wrote:Especially if he adds a jumper, can Precious paired with Towns give the Knicks a version of when the TWolves ran out Naz Reid with Towns?

Naz a much better 3 point shooter though


This team has loaded up and is deep at almost every position now. They can play multiple styles offensively AND defensively. They can shoot the 3 ball 1 to 5.

A Knick squad w/o Randle and OG and Mitch was able to go 7 in the 2nd round. Add Bridges and KAT to what they had last year?

We absolutely can match up with anyone if Thibs system is tweaked a bit to maximize the new players. Our D intensity is unmatched now we have depth and more spacing.
This is a formidable squad.


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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#780 » by ezmoney707 » Sat Sep 28, 2024 1:31 pm

DOT wrote:How much y'all wanna bet once Mitch gets healthy Thibs starts him and KAT together?

Being that Thibs is stubborn with lineup changes, I think he only goes that route if KAT at the 5 isn’t working and breeding mix results. I don’t foresee him forcing Mitch in the lineup just for the sake of things, similar to ihart last season and us playing OG at the 4.

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