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Breaking: KAT to the Knicks

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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1081 » by ScienceOfLosing » Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:13 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:I don't get this "can only keep one of Morris or Shamet" business that keeps getting repeated.

Players under contract/depth

Brunson/Payne/Kolek
Bridges/Deuce
OG/Hart/Dadiet
KAT/Precious
Mitch/Sims

That's 12 players

Two way contracts:
McCullars
Hawkpootie
Toppin

Camp Invites prior to trade/Exhibit 9/10 guys

Okeke
Shamet
Morris

What am I missing? They could keep all 3 of the invites, if they wanted to, especially if Toppin etc doesn't outplay them in preseason and get converted.


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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1083 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:13 pm

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well damn

KAT goes away from the team’s identity of grittiness and goes towards softness. It’s not surprising to see everyone isn’t on board. I bet Thibs is pissed tbh
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1084 » by Deeeez Knicks » Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:14 pm

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Deeeez Knicks wrote:Not really buying all the Donte stories. Maybe a little bit of truth but sounds like they are exaggerating things a ton.

Basically, Knicks had to include him as value and to match salaries. Maybe stories are leaking to soften the blow.

I mean we all saw how much chemistry the Nova guys had last year and how close they were


There may be some truth in those rumors though. I'm sure Donte thought, after the second half of the season and that playoff run, that he'd be the starting 2 and have 30 mins locked in. Then the FO went and got his replacement. If I was him, I wouldn't be too happy about that neither. And unlike Jalen, the FO probably didn't call Donte to ask what he thought of the trade before they did it lol.


Maybe some very small truth. He was still going to get at least 25-28mpg. OG is going to miss a lot of games too

Don't think this factored much into the trade though. They needed the salary and value to work. The fact it's all coming out now is obviously to soften the blow. This happens all the time
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1085 » by NY2k1 » Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:14 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
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well damn

KAT goes away from the team’s identity of grittiness and goes towards softness. It’s not surprising to see everyone isn’t on board. I bet Thibs is pissed tbh


There's no way Thibs didn't sign off on this. Would find that hard to believe.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1086 » by mpharris36 » Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:15 pm

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well damn


Well we know it isn't Leon or WWW.

I wonder if it's Dolan. I think he was really fond of Randle.


thibs ?


Maybe he liked Julius. But that would be a little odd to not have your coach on board with the move of this magnitude I probably can get more information as time goes on about the relationship.

I do know second hand that it was an interesting relationship. Julius can be madening as a player but thibs absolutely loved his work ethic, thoughness, and him being in great shape.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1087 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:20 pm

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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1088 » by NiceLikeChrist » Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:35 pm

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Ya know KAT is one of the best passing bigs in the league?


In what sense? Randle is a premier shot creator and commands a double in the post and anywhere inside the arc really. He got teammates wide open 3s all game long and the shot charts prove how much he enabled our shooters. He was going to have an insane number of 3 point threats around him this year.

KAT is a good passer? Averaging 3 assists on a stacked team? It looks to me like KAT is the ball stopper everyone thinks Randle is. I don’t trust KATs ability to create for himself and others. I feel like we are going to heavily rely on Brunson to do nearly everything when one of the best things about Julius was that he was able to do everything too and that’s takes pressure off Brunson. We lost that.

We now only have one single reliable creator

Jesus, man, you really need to rethink this.


feel free to break it down. we got a 3 point threat center but lost a 3pt threat wing, mitch, and our primary secondary ball handler all-nba forward

people have become way too enamored at all these ridiculous scenarios when the fact is we beat the celtics LAST season if we were healthy. that's without mikal. if we swapped mitch with gobert we would sweep the playoffs. all we needed was a reliable center that plays defense and crashes glass. we already had the pieces and identity to get a chip
NiceLikeChrist wrote:We are going to deeply regret this. We traded away the best player in the trade and still had to give up a great role player AND a pick?

so many people are going to eat their words about randle
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1089 » by Reign23 » Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:37 pm

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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1090 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:40 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
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well damn

KAT goes away from the team’s identity of grittiness and goes towards softness. It’s not surprising to see everyone isn’t on board. I bet Thibs is pissed tbh


There's no way Thibs didn't sign off on this. Would find that hard to believe.

Did you see the way Thibs was talking about Randle this week? That doesn’t sound like someone who wanted Randle to be moved. Thibs also didn’t have the greatest relationship with KAT too
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1091 » by RHODEY » Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:40 pm

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xb3at band1tx wrote:KAT is AD-lite with how much he can do on offense (though a significantly worst defender)

Despite his defense he can pretty much fit on any lineup in the league, something I don't think Jules can do with his bully ball play style. This was the right move, I didn't think the team could be called true contenders until the Randle question could be solved (whether it be him fitting in and actually showing something in the playoffs or getting shipped out)

Randle and Gobert are a god awful fit, sucks for minny fans.


On offense KAT isn't anyone's "lite".

I’m glad to hear that from you. We’ll be alright.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1092 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:41 pm

Guano wrote:Knicks pr putting out the public relations hit on donte so the Italian delegation wouldn't be mad at them for shipping out their boy.


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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1093 » by KnicksGadfly » Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:44 pm

NY2k1 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
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well damn

KAT goes away from the team’s identity of grittiness and goes towards softness. It’s not surprising to see everyone isn’t on board. I bet Thibs is pissed tbh


There's no way Thibs didn't sign off on this. Would find that hard to believe.


Thibs is a little crazy. He didn’t want to trade Butler after what Butler did to him in Minnesota
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1094 » by prophet_of_rage » Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:45 pm

This is the trade that looks great on paper but may not work in real life.

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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1095 » by Butch718 » Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:45 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
Read on Twitter


well damn

KAT goes away from the team’s identity of grittiness and goes towards softness. It’s not surprising to see everyone isn’t on board. I bet Thibs is pissed tbh


:lol: You guys need to stop believing everything you read on the Twitter gossip columns. I am pretty sure they don’t make this trade without consulting with Thibs. Especially, one of this magnitude.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1096 » by SelbyCobra » Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:50 pm

Starting lineup on Opening Night last season:

PG: Jalen Brunson
SG: Quentin Grimes
SF: RJ Barrett
PF: Julius Randle
C: Mitchell Robinson

Projected starting lineup less than one year later:

PG: Jalen Brunson
SG: Josh Hart
SF: Mikal Bridges
PF: OG Anunoby
C: Karl Anthony Towns

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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1097 » by BKlutch » Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:50 pm

Butch718 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
Read on Twitter


well damn

KAT goes away from the team’s identity of grittiness and goes towards softness. It’s not surprising to see everyone isn’t on board. I bet Thibs is pissed tbh


:lol: You guys need to stop believing everything you read on the Twitter gossip columns. I am pretty sure they don’t make this trade without consulting with Thibs. Especially, one of this magnitude.

I can really imagine Leon saying to Thibs, "Hey Thom, good buddy, I traded all the Nova boys and got you back some Dennis Smith Jr, TH Jr, and even found Elf sitting on a shelf. Nah, don't bother thanking me, I knew you'd be so happy I did this for ya."

Of course, trading for KAT was vetted by everyone of importance among the coaches and in the Front Office, and maybe a few players were in the loop as well
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1098 » by Marty McFly » Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:55 pm

efficient offense + Defense. the Knicks are winning the championship this year.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1099 » by god shammgod » Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:07 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
Well we know it isn't Leon or WWW.

I wonder if it's Dolan. I think he was really fond of Randle.


thibs ?


Maybe he liked Julius. But that would be a little odd to not have your coach on board with the move of this magnitude I probably can get more information as time goes on about the relationship.

I do know second hand that it was an interesting relationship. Julius can be madening as a player but thibs absolutely loved his work ethic, thoughness, and him being in great shape.


and i doubt thibs loves kat. he once got a tech for yelling at him during a game :lol:
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1100 » by F N 11 » Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:17 pm

Hmmm interesting. Mitch only trade asset to upgrade at bench guard currently. Well addition by subtraction I guess.

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