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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1761 » by E-Balla » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:25 pm

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Which is why I got BLopez.



Wolves were 13th defensively the year before they got Gobert, we'll be top 10 with him and the wings helping out.


The Nuggets won the the title as 5th offense and 15th defense.


KAT even if he turns out to be not as good defeively as some of the metrics suggest is surrounded by 4-5 very good to elite defenders that can defend EVERY single position at an elite level 1-5 with the sole exception of elite rim protection that a true C can sometimes provide.

Many of us back a couple seasons ago were like KAT would be a great fit here but thats only if we got OG. Well not only did we get OG we got Bridges too!

We have:

1. OG elite 1-5 defender (without rim protection )
2. Bridges elite 1-4 defense
3. Hart elite 1-3 (some 4s) defense
4. McBride elite 1-2 defense
5. Achiuwa good 4-5 defense
6. Morris above average 4 some 5s defense

We are more than OK to have a couple average to below average defenders as starters (KAT and Brunson)

We're cutting Morris so we can afford KAT.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1762 » by E-Balla » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:27 pm

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E-Balla wrote:We're making Brunson better? A stretch big that can't defend doesn't cost 60 million man. Be fr. There's a reason they took Naz over him, what he brings can be gotten at a way cheaper price point.

The reason people are mad isn't because we traded Randle. It's because we traded FOR KAT. 6th highest paid player in the league.

i would've rather traded for myles turner and paid less for an even better fit but obviously we're actively in competition with the pacers rn


Myles Turner anchored the defense to the team that allowed the most points in the paint and is on an expiring contract. We’d have another set of issues with him.

He's making 20 million next year not 50. And he shot 45% from deep in the playoffs, 40% in his career. Not 35%.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1763 » by Knick4Real » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:28 pm

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Iron Mantis wrote:Seeing a lot of soft posters in here.

A single game hasn't even been played yet and there's a lot of whining and crying.

And they have the nerve to call KAT "soft".

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gonna be a ton of ass kissing and dick sucking to be done once kat proves em wrong


They'll never admit it. I'm collecting receipts, though. :lol:
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1764 » by KnixinSix » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:29 pm

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KnixinSix wrote:
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Wolves were 13th defensively the year before they got Gobert, we'll be top 10 with him and the wings helping out.


The Nuggets won the the title as 5th offense and 15th defense.


KAT even if he turns out to be not as good defeively as some of the metrics suggest is surrounded by 4-5 very good to elite defenders that can defend EVERY single position at an elite level 1-5 with the sole exception of elite rim protection that a true C can sometimes provide.

Many of us back a couple seasons ago were like KAT would be a great fit here but thats only if we got OG. Well not only did we get OG we got Bridges too!

We have:

1. OG elite 1-5 defender (without rim protection )
2. Bridges elite 1-4 defense
3. Hart elite 1-3 (some 4s) defense
4. McBride elite 1-2 defense
5. Achiuwa good 4-5 defense
6. Morris above average 4 some 5s defense

We are more than OK to have a couple average to below average defenders as starters (KAT and Brunson)

We're cutting Morris so we can afford KAT.


The last guy on that list ( if he isnt re-signed ) will not invalidate the other 5 higher guys on that list. We still have plenty.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1765 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:29 pm

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kolek will play more than Payne next year


Makes sense that the guy who couldn't stay in front of SL talent will get a lot of burn.

Are you ready for us to give up 140 points a night


I'm ready for those 145 to 140 wins
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1766 » by E-Balla » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:29 pm

Y'all in this thread comparing KAT, who's making Embiid money, to Randle and Myles Turner but talking about collecting receipts y'all sicken me man.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1767 » by E-Balla » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:31 pm

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KAT even if he turns out to be not as good defeively as some of the metrics suggest is surrounded by 4-5 very good to elite defenders that can defend EVERY single position at an elite level 1-5 with the sole exception of elite rim protection that a true C can sometimes provide.

Many of us back a couple seasons ago were like KAT would be a great fit here but thats only if we got OG. Well not only did we get OG we got Bridges too!

We have:

1. OG elite 1-5 defender (without rim protection )
2. Bridges elite 1-4 defense
3. Hart elite 1-3 (some 4s) defense
4. McBride elite 1-2 defense
5. Achiuwa good 4-5 defense
6. Morris above average 4 some 5s defense

We are more than OK to have a couple average to below average defenders as starters (KAT and Brunson)

We're cutting Morris so we can afford KAT.


The last guy on that list ( if he isnt re-signed ) will not invalidate the other 5 higher guys on that list. We still have plenty.

You think Precious should be in a playoff rotation, I ignored the other 5 because it's laughable.

Achiuwa would be the worst player in any playoff rotation.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1768 » by KnixinSix » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:32 pm

E-Balla wrote:Y'all in this threat comparing KAT, who's making Embiid money, to Randle and Myles Turner but talking about collecting receipts y'all sicken me man.


Dont watch the regular season then . You have already decided it will be a disaster.

Personally there are plenty of reasons to think this trade will turn out positive if you want to see it.

No guarantee but I am more positive about this roster than what we had a couple days ago.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1769 » by bronxknicksfan1 » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:32 pm

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E-Balla wrote:Maybe we should've thought about that before we made a big trade for a role player that's making max money to play 40 games a year and get hurt in the playoffs?

Ok got it, so since we did do that, this KAT trade is the better move than being capped out and letting Randle walk with no way to further improve team. Thanks for clearing that up.

No it isn't. This KAT trade doesn't improve us, now our bench sucks, our starting 5 hasn't really improved, and we have 2 of the 3 worst contracts in basketball.

Randle could've been moved later. He could've been let go and we'd be able to resign guys while staying under the second apron, maybe literally any other trade opens up. Maybe Kawhi wants out. We literally don't know what other options would've become available, all we do know is trading for KAT means no other options are available and we're giving MVP money to a guy you guys are holding to Julius Randle standards.


As great as Donte was for us, a bench shooter is a dime in a dozen in this league. A stretch big who happens to be one of the best 3 point shooters at his position of all time, is not.

Also, Kawhi? Isn’t he coming off another knee surgery this summer? And who’s to say the Clippers were even interested in taking on Randle?
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1770 » by K_ick_God » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:33 pm

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KnixinSix wrote:
E-Balla wrote:We're cutting Morris so we can afford KAT.


The last guy on that list ( if he isnt re-signed ) will not invalidate the other 5 higher guys on that list. We still have plenty.

You think Precious should be in a playoff rotation, I ignored the other 5 because it's laughable.

Achiuwa would be the worst player in any playoff rotation.


Seems to have a few special talents that make him a good role player. He was a big reason they won G5 v. the ECF Pacers.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1772 » by bronxknicksfan1 » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:35 pm

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rajajackal wrote:i would've rather traded for myles turner and paid less for an even better fit but obviously we're actively in competition with the pacers rn


Myles Turner anchored the defense to the team that allowed the most points in the paint and is on an expiring contract. We’d have another set of issues with him.

He's making 20 million next year not 50. And he shot 45% from deep in the playoffs, 40% in his career. Not 35%.


Expiring contract. Which means extension talks are coming soon. He’s going to get paid way more than that 20 million he’s getting this season very soon.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1773 » by K_ick_God » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:35 pm

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Not many people seem to dislike the trade and except yourself and the usual suspects.

Didn't you hate the Brunson trade too?

Melo, you have receipts on this?

So, we should have stayed the course with Randle and Donte? That was a true contender with Brunson? Not sure of that either. And then Randle was due an extension or new contract.

Karl Anthony Towns is not the player you think of when trying to elevate into a title contender.

I wasn’t a Randle fan, but this is a more expensive Randle in some ways, just with a different mentality.

The usual suspects lol. The respected basketball media - not Kendrick Perkins - is lukewarm on the trade. Mixed reactions on this forum and in the media as I said. Didn’t say everyone disliked it. I said mixed reactions. You’re better off sticking to making troll posts if you’re write bull.

And yeah, please Melo bring up the receipts of me wanting Brunson way before anyone even considered wanting him. Let’s see those receipts. They’re there. Now let’s see yours. Probably a lot more bull than mine. A lot more. But yours is under the guise of being ‘positive’, right? Gtfo.


Towns > Randle


He is but he needs to change more than he already has. His role should be like a deluxe Al Horford, which is actually very valuable.

Pretty much Randle is the worst defender and intangible player I've ever seen and certainly about as bad as a 20ppg scorer can be in almost all facets. He can make some hard shots. Big whoop. He's awful.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1774 » by E-Balla » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:36 pm

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The last guy on that list ( if he isnt re-signed ) will not invalidate the other 5 higher guys on that list. We still have plenty.

You think Precious should be in a playoff rotation, I ignored the other 5 because it's laughable.

Achiuwa would be the worst player in any playoff rotation.


Seems to have a few special talents that make him a good role player. He was a big reason they won G5 v. the ECF Pacers.

He had a good game against the Sixers too. But generally hes not good. His defense and rebounding are nice, offensively he's one of the worst players in the league.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1775 » by E-Balla » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:36 pm

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Myles Turner anchored the defense to the team that allowed the most points in the paint and is on an expiring contract. We’d have another set of issues with him.

He's making 20 million next year not 50. And he shot 45% from deep in the playoffs, 40% in his career. Not 35%.


Expiring contract. Which means extension talks are coming soon. He’s going to get paid way more than that 20 million he’s getting this season very soon.

Unless you think he's getting MVP money what's the point in mentioning this?
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1776 » by KnixinSix » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:37 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:
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Makes sense that the guy who couldn't stay in front of SL talent will get a lot of burn.

Are you ready for us to give up 140 points a night


I'm ready for those 145 to 140 wins


Lol I figure you are being sarcastic but the OG McBride has a Bridge to the Hart of great National Association of Basketball defense
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1777 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:37 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:
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Makes sense that the guy who couldn't stay in front of SL talent will get a lot of burn.

Are you ready for us to give up 140 points a night


I'm ready for those 145 to 140 wins

Wins in making bets on how much times KAT leaves the paint wide open eh :lol:
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1778 » by E-Balla » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:37 pm

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Im Coming Home wrote:Ok got it, so since we did do that, this KAT trade is the better move than being capped out and letting Randle walk with no way to further improve team. Thanks for clearing that up.

No it isn't. This KAT trade doesn't improve us, now our bench sucks, our starting 5 hasn't really improved, and we have 2 of the 3 worst contracts in basketball.

Randle could've been moved later. He could've been let go and we'd be able to resign guys while staying under the second apron, maybe literally any other trade opens up. Maybe Kawhi wants out. We literally don't know what other options would've become available, all we do know is trading for KAT means no other options are available and we're giving MVP money to a guy you guys are holding to Julius Randle standards.


As great as Donte was for us, a bench shooter is a dime in a dozen in this league. A stretch big who happens to be one of the best 3 point shooters at his position of all time, is not.

Also, Kawhi? Isn’t he coming off another knee surgery this summer? And who’s to say the Clippers were even interested in taking on Randle?

If this was true we'd have another one on the roster wouldn't we?
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1779 » by E-Balla » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:38 pm

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E-Balla wrote:Y'all in this threat comparing KAT, who's making Embiid money, to Randle and Myles Turner but talking about collecting receipts y'all sicken me man.


Dont watch the regular season then . You have already decided it will be a disaster.

Personally there are plenty of reasons to think this trade will turn out positive if you want to see it.

No guarantee but I am more positive about this roster than what we had a couple days ago.

**** mad I'm not a pipe gargler like him keep crying ponk.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1780 » by DaGawd » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:39 pm

E-Balla wrote:Y'all in this thread comparing KAT, who's making Embiid money, to Randle and Myles Turner but talking about collecting receipts y'all sicken me man.

i mean embiid ain’t won **** either
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