Breaking: KAT to the Knicks

[E-Balla]

Actually, I just checked. Turner can’t even be extended until the end of the season. Meaning he could potentially be lost for nothing. Because yes, he’s going to get ridiculous contract once he hits the open market as an UFA.

Nothing > KAT for $60 million

So being over the cap with no way of signing players is better than acquiring one of the best bigs in the league? Yeah, okay

I think y'all don't realize how this second apron works or why teams are so adamant about staying under it. Unless you're a dynasty already going over the second apron will cripple your franchise for the foreseeable future. KAT is always a major injury risk. It's possible KAT is hurt, were over the 2nd apron twice due to his contract, and a pick that should be a lottery pick ends up the 30th pick due to the new CBA rules. Guys like KAT and Beal are team crippling right now.

[Clyde_Style]

Randle and Hart were the only masculine forces on the team. This team isn't gonna be anywhere near as tough as we saw them be the last two seasons. Still can't believe they made this mistake when all we needed was a center who can actually play most of the season.

Jesus Christ!

[E-Balla]

E-Balla coming back and putting up wilt chamberlain numbers in this thread is the best thing to come out of this trade by far

Aggo fasho spamming that report button don't get too used to it. That's why I don't post here much anymore I lost tolerance for a MF that can read what I said in plain English and immediately claim I said otherwise and that's a realgm staple.

[jvsimonetti0514]

Remember when a different illmatic poster wanted to meet up and fight 2010? We should set that up with Eballa and Bluntson. I know a few spots under the west side highway that be perfect for a fight. Knicks board Fight night brought to you by Realgm.com.

[Jalen Bluntson]

yo leon rose and worldwide wes did exactly what they set out to do from day 1 that's pretty gangster

Can you imagine people moaning about a starting unit with OG Anunoby, MIkal Bridges, Jalen Brunson and Karl Anthony Towns after the past 25 years of Knicks history?

Nah, I can't either. Nobody would be that ridiculous

I have been around this board since Amar'e first signed here. I was a lurker then and had a few names get banned before I really started posting a lot. Seeing the nonsense is nothing new. It's just more amplified since most of the knowledgeable posters are gone. There isn't a poster here who can brag about being right about everything. Most haven't been right about much at all honestly. You wouldn't know that from the tone some of these clowns take.

[DaGawd]

Remember when a different illmatic poster wanted to meet up and fight 2010? We should set that up with Eballa and Bluntson. I know a few spots under the west side highway that be perfect for a fight. Knicks board Fight night brought to you by Realgm.com.

i’ll ref it

[Clyde_Style]

I feel like you’re making up a person to be mad about here is there any Knicks fan that actually thinks Randle is a flawless player?

Well, in terms of analogies the point would be that hardcore Randle supporters will NEVER admit he is a lazy bitch on defense if I must be more direct about it.

Is there anyone here that would be happy paying Randle Joel Embiid money? Why tf is RANDLE the standard for a **** making Embiid money?

I wouldn't be happy paying Randle to continue playing for the Knicks at 25M or 50M. I don't think he's a winner. I do not believe in Randle's ability to thrive under pressure in the playoffs. I would have been rooting for his success if he remained, but I'm also glad he is gone.

Some people may feel the same way about KAT, but that's their prerogative.

I do think KAT is superior and will mesh better with our roster.

[SelbyCobra]

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[bronxknicksfan1]

Nothing > KAT for $60 million

So being over the cap with no way of signing players is better than acquiring one of the best bigs in the league? Yeah, okay

I think y'all don't realize how this second apron works or why teams are so adamant about staying under it. Unless you're a dynasty already going over the second apron will cripple your franchise for the foreseeable future. KAT is always a major injury risk. It's possible KAT is hurt, were over the 2nd apron twice due to his contract, and a pick that should be a lottery pick ends up the 30th pick due to the new CBA rules. Guys like KAT and Beal are team crippling right now.

I realize it. Once the FO traded 5 FRPs for Mikal and traded the youth for OG, it became clear what direction we were going. And it’s all in right now. So a pick going from lottery to 30th means nothing to this team right now. The cap is continuing to go up as well, so we’ll see the cap hit it’ll be in a few years.

[jvsimonetti0514]

Nothing > KAT for $60 million

So being over the cap with no way of signing players is better than acquiring one of the best bigs in the league? Yeah, okay

I think y'all don't realize how this second apron works or why teams are so adamant about staying under it. Unless you're a dynasty already going over the second apron will cripple your franchise for the foreseeable future. KAT is always a major injury risk. It's possible KAT is hurt, were over the 2nd apron twice due to his contract, and a pick that should be a lottery pick ends up the 30th pick due to the new CBA rules. Guys like KAT and Beal are team crippling right now.

We’ll end up a little bit under the 2nd apron but doesn’t really give us a lot of wiggle room to fix the holes in the bench. This is what really bummed me out about listening to hoop collective. They implied that the wolves didn’t have a ton of options to dump towns and we did them a huge favor while giving them assets. They traded the “best” player and I don’t think their roster looks any worse.

[Clyde_Style]

He looks like he knows kung fu.

He looks like he learned his kung fu from Chris Tucker in rush hour

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Embiid is a clown. I really have no problem with him having a career ending injury that meshugga rabbit punching whore

[Context]

We’ll end up a little bit under the 2nd apron but doesn’t really give us a lot of wiggle room to fix the holes in the bench. This is what really bummed me out about listening to hoop collective. They implied that the wolves didn’t have a ton of options to dump towns and we did them a huge favor while giving them assets. They traded the “best” player and I don’t think their roster looks any worse.

Minny said no several times...check this video out:

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[E-Balla]

Well, in terms of analogies the point would be that hardcore Randle supporters will NEVER admit he is a lazy bitch on defense if I must be more direct about it.

Is there anyone here that would be happy paying Randle Joel Embiid money? Why tf is RANDLE the standard for a **** making Embiid money?

I wouldn't be happy paying Randle to continue playing for the Knicks at 25M or 50M. I don't think he's a winner. I do not believe in Randle's ability to thrive under pressure in the playoffs. I would have been rooting for his success if he remained, but I'm also glad he is gone.

Some people may feel the same way about KAT, but that's their prerogative.

I do think KAT is superior and will mesh better with our roster.

At $25 million you not paid to be a winner. You paid to be another guy.

At $60 million ($56 million for a certain someone that wants me to be specific before he buys a blood vessel) you better be the franchise. Especially when we got OG's terrible ass contract already on the squad.

[bronxknicksfan1]

I’m curious as to what some of you think Donte was going to do on a fully healthy Knicks team and where his value would be compared to now.

He wasn’t going to start. Mikal took his spot. He wouldn’t backup either Brunson or OG, that’s either Deuce or Hart doing that. His minutes would be around where it was earlier in the season when he was a reserve. That was around 15-20 min. So where would his value be if he played for a few months?

Leon traded him while the iron was hot and traded Donte while his value was at the highest it’ll ever be. Again, a shooter off the bench is a dime in a dozen. He may not be as good, but Shamet is a career 38% shooter. He can fill the role. Or find another cheap shooter on the market. What Leon did was peak asset management. Traded a player while he was at his peak value before letting that value wither away along with Randle, who was perceived to have little to no value around the league.

[E-Balla]

For what it's worth Kevin Pelton, who does a statistical analysis and runs simulations to come up with projected standings (worth mentioning usually his predictions are accurate pre trade deadline) thinks this trade which cost a first round pick and all of our flexibility and pissed off Mitch as improving us by a whole... 0.5 wins. From an average of 44.9 wins in his simulations to 45.4 wins and 6th seed out East to 5th seed.

[mpharris36]

why are we using KAT's 2027-28 contract number vs Julius Randle's 2024-25 contract number to compare them? Just curious that isn't apples to apples.

[Clyde_Style]

yo leon rose and worldwide wes did exactly what they set out to do from day 1 that's pretty gangster

Can you imagine people moaning about a starting unit with OG Anunoby, MIkal Bridges, Jalen Brunson and Karl Anthony Towns after the past 25 years of Knicks history?

Nah, I can't either. Nobody would be that ridiculous

I have been around this board since Amar'e first signed here. I was a lurker then and had a few names get banned before I really started posting a lot. Seeing the nonsense is nothing new. It's just more amplified since most of the knowledgeable posters are gone. There isn't a poster here who can brag about being right about everything. Most haven't been right about much at all honestly. You wouldn't know that from the tone some of these clowns take.

That's why I posted what you replied to, because what this FO has done is better than anything anyone else here would have done. If RealGM were running the Knicks we'd have Donovan Mitchell and a bag of crisps to root for.

Being right or wrong is fine. I don't care if somebody was wrong.

Staking out a position so you can gloat when you're right 50% of the time is boring AF, but for some guys that appears to be their life purpose. Rooting for the team's success becomes secondary with that kind of psychology.

And the team's failure becomes a form of validation for the sad sacks. Predicting failure is their hedge and gloating if it happens gives them pleasure.

[E-Balla]

So being over the cap with no way of signing players is better than acquiring one of the best bigs in the league? Yeah, okay

I think y'all don't realize how this second apron works or why teams are so adamant about staying under it. Unless you're a dynasty already going over the second apron will cripple your franchise for the foreseeable future. KAT is always a major injury risk. It's possible KAT is hurt, were over the 2nd apron twice due to his contract, and a pick that should be a lottery pick ends up the 30th pick due to the new CBA rules. Guys like KAT and Beal are team crippling right now.

I realize it. Once the FO traded 5 FRPs for Mikal and traded the youth for OG, it became clear what direction we were going. And it’s all in right now. So a pick going from lottery to 30th means nothing to this team right now. The cap is continuing to go up as well, so we’ll see the cap hit it’ll be in a few years.

All in to me means significantly improving the roster. Not sacrificing depth and cap flexibility for two guys we'd be lucky to get a combined 82 games out of.

[Buttah304]

sounds like a lot of people who analyze this think the wolves won the trade. sad.

[bronxknicksfan1]

For what it's worth Kevin Pelton, who does a statistical analysis and runs simulations to come up with projected standings (worth mentioning usually his predictions are accurate pre trade deadline) thinks this trade which cost a first round pick and all of our flexibility and pissed off Mitch as improving us by a whole... 0.5 wins. From an average of 44.9 wins in his simulations to 45.4 wins and 6th seed out East to 5th seed.

Same projection has the Cavs and Pacers finishing ahead of us. So, no. I don’t take what Kevin Pelton has to say seriously.