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Post#21 » by FrenchMinnyFan » Sun Sep 29, 2024 1:05 am

The main benefit we got on this trade are multiple :
- Getting more deep, will allow a better management on Mike, Rudy, Ant
- Getting better offensively without loosing anything on the defensive part.
- Getting a huge bench
- Saving money and get more flexibility for the future.

The bad point :
- Trading KAT who was loyal to the Wolves ( but this is business)
- We loose part of the chemistry of the group ( new players will have to learn how we play) which was part of our success.

But i remain optimistic, this is our year. Go Wolves!
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Post#22 » by coachEmily » Sun Sep 29, 2024 1:43 am

fattymcgee wrote:
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fattymcgee wrote:Poop.

Randle shrivels up in the playoffs way more than Karl ever did.

Not many games to go by, and his shooting wasn't good, but his scoring wasn't bad and his rebounds and assists were good!
2021 Playoffs... 18.0ppg 11.6rpg 4.0apg .298fg .333threes (5 games)
2023 Playoffs... 16.6ppg 8.3rpg 3.6apg .374fg .258threes (10 games)
He won't be asked to carry us in the playoffs offensively or defensively, so very different here with ANT, McDaniels, Reid, Gobert etc.


And when you compare that to his regular season stats, that's terrible. C'mon "coach".

Those are excellent all-around numbers other than the shooting, and the bad% is excusable because the playoffs have tougher defense and lower-scoring games and even Pippen only shot .343 and .421 and .410 in the 96 Finals, 97 Finals and 98 Finals!
And Curry only shot .403 in the 2016 Finals...
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Post#23 » by wolves_89 » Sun Sep 29, 2024 2:48 am

I think Randle's success with the Wolves is going to be heavily influenced by his 3PT%. If he can shoot 34-36% on 3s the offense should work, if he's around 28-30% it's going to be tough to play him with Rudy on the floor. The uncertainty with Randle is that he's had multiple years with adequate 3pt shooting and multiple years with poor 3pt shooting. The question is which one will the Wolves get next season.
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Post#24 » by zimpy27 » Sun Sep 29, 2024 2:49 am

Loaf_of_bread wrote:
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JayTWill wrote:Any guesses on how Randle will be used on the Wolves this year? What do you expect his role to be?


Similar to the KAT role really.


Kat had zero ability to facilitate anything. Just a bone headed dude that proclaims himself as: "the best shooting big man of all time."

First of all, that is my gripe with that guy. Let your career play out. You have been injured a good number of games, haven't played good defense, have an ego.. I'll shut up now..

Our starting 5 could actually benefit from a guy like JU.. our half court offense is stagnant at times, need to mix in someone like him. Ju just may work out..


Yeah Randle can operate as a playmaker to an extent and will be better at setting up hig efficiency scoring through Rudy.

I think Randle and DDV lets you not need a backup guard, gives you no pressure to incorporate Dillingham any time soon.

1-3: Conley, DDV, NAW, Ant, Jaden
4-5: Randle, Gobert, Naz
RS depth: Dozier, Ingles
Developing: Dillingham, Terrence, Minott, Miller, Garza
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Post#25 » by coachEmily » Sun Sep 29, 2024 3:02 am

zimpy27 wrote:
Yeah Randle can operate as a playmaker to an extent and will be better at setting up hig efficiency scoring through Rudy.

I think Randle and DDV lets you not need a backup guard, gives you no pressure to incorporate Dillingham any time soon.

1-3: Conley, DDV, NAW, Ant, Jaden
4-5: Randle, Gobert, Naz
RS depth: Dozier, Ingles
Developing: Dillingham, Terrence, Minott, Miller, Garza

I agree we are deeper now and more versatile so we should win the West because our defense will be just as good this year and maybe even better, and our offense will be better!
Plus we know McDaniels and Reid are taking big leaps each year so there is no limit :love:
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Post#26 » by minimus » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:28 am

zimpy27 wrote:
Loaf_of_bread wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
Similar to the KAT role really.


Kat had zero ability to facilitate anything. Just a bone headed dude that proclaims himself as: "the best shooting big man of all time."

First of all, that is my gripe with that guy. Let your career play out. You have been injured a good number of games, haven't played good defense, have an ego.. I'll shut up now..

Our starting 5 could actually benefit from a guy like JU.. our half court offense is stagnant at times, need to mix in someone like him. Ju just may work out..


Yeah Randle can operate as a playmaker to an extent and will be better at setting up hig efficiency scoring through Rudy.

I think Randle and DDV lets you not need a backup guard, gives you no pressure to incorporate Dillingham any time soon.

1-3: Conley, DDV, NAW, Ant, Jaden
4-5: Randle, Gobert, Naz
RS depth: Dozier, Ingles
Developing: Dillingham, Terrence, Minott, Miller, Garza


Towns has been good at throwing alley-oop passes to Rudy playing inverted pick-n-roll. This is a big part of MIN offense. I did not see it with Randle-Mitchell/Sims (Hartenstein is not a rim runner). Randle is mostly a drive-n-kick passer.

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But. I think the goal is to adopt "0.5 second" offense, if Randle buys (that's a big if) then Gobert will benefit from it as well. Julius can play at high speed, with high aggressiveness. Something that Towns struggled to do. Randle is also very quick at passing the ball, or quickly flowing from screen to postup.

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Post#27 » by zimpy27 » Sun Sep 29, 2024 9:10 am

minimus wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
Loaf_of_bread wrote:
Kat had zero ability to facilitate anything. Just a bone headed dude that proclaims himself as: "the best shooting big man of all time."

First of all, that is my gripe with that guy. Let your career play out. You have been injured a good number of games, haven't played good defense, have an ego.. I'll shut up now..

Our starting 5 could actually benefit from a guy like JU.. our half court offense is stagnant at times, need to mix in someone like him. Ju just may work out..


Yeah Randle can operate as a playmaker to an extent and will be better at setting up hig efficiency scoring through Rudy.

I think Randle and DDV lets you not need a backup guard, gives you no pressure to incorporate Dillingham any time soon.

1-3: Conley, DDV, NAW, Ant, Jaden
4-5: Randle, Gobert, Naz
RS depth: Dozier, Ingles
Developing: Dillingham, Terrence, Minott, Miller, Garza


Towns has been good at throwing alley-oop passes to Rudy playing inverted pick-n-roll. This is a big part of MIN offense. I did not see it with Randle-Mitchell/Sims (Hartenstein is not a rim runner). Randle is mostly a drive-n-kick passer.

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But. I think the goal is to adopt "0.5 second" offense, if Randle buys (that's a big if) then Gobert will benefit from it as well. Julius can play at high speed, with high aggressiveness. Something that Towns struggled to do. Randle is also very quick at passing the ball, or quickly flowing from screen to postup.



Randle can do it and did it in phases with Robinson, it just was never part of the Knicks offense, they pushed for drive and kick.
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Re: The Julius Randle Thread 

Post#28 » by minimus » Sun Sep 29, 2024 9:33 am

zimpy27 wrote:
minimus wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
Yeah Randle can operate as a playmaker to an extent and will be better at setting up hig efficiency scoring through Rudy.

I think Randle and DDV lets you not need a backup guard, gives you no pressure to incorporate Dillingham any time soon.

1-3: Conley, DDV, NAW, Ant, Jaden
4-5: Randle, Gobert, Naz
RS depth: Dozier, Ingles
Developing: Dillingham, Terrence, Minott, Miller, Garza


Towns has been good at throwing alley-oop passes to Rudy playing inverted pick-n-roll. This is a big part of MIN offense. I did not see it with Randle-Mitchell/Sims (Hartenstein is not a rim runner). Randle is mostly a drive-n-kick passer.

Read on Twitter

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But. I think the goal is to adopt "0.5 second" offense, if Randle buys (that's a big if) then Gobert will benefit from it as well. Julius can play at high speed, with high aggressiveness. Something that Towns struggled to do. Randle is also very quick at passing the ball, or quickly flowing from screen to postup.



Randle can do it and did it in phases with Robinson, it just was never part of the Knicks offense, they pushed for drive and kick.


Yes, it is not about Randle ability or talent. Both Randle and Towns have plenty of it. It is about doing right things consistently and building high level offense and defense.
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Re: The Julius Randle Thread 

Post#29 » by Calinks » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:15 am

Randle is really good. I prefer Towns and I don't think Randle is better but he is good enough to possible be better on our team. Knicks and NBA fans often act like he's trash, like Towns, he has some issues but they are issues we can live with and his role wont be as massive on our team.

I think the problems KAT did bring to some games like the fouls, turnovers, and terrible attitude with the refs will go way down now that he is out of the equation. Randle also gets to the line which is fantastic, we know how badly we need that. He will play a big role and have a major positive impact on this team. Don't write him off.
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Post#30 » by wolves_89 » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:24 am

I'm curious to see how Randle buys into the defensive culture. He's not been a terrible defender, but he's not been a particularly good one either. He should have the strength and quickness to be a slight PF upgrade to KAT on defense (and a downgrade if he ever has to play center), but that will require a level of consistent effort that I'll have to see to believe.
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Post#31 » by coachEmily » Mon Sep 30, 2024 3:27 am

The fans on the Knicks board said they're worried because they've lost Randle's grit!
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Post#32 » by minimus » Mon Sep 30, 2024 5:22 am

coachEmily wrote:The fans on the Knicks board said they're worried because they've lost Randle's grit!


As they should
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Post#33 » by _AIJ_ » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:50 pm

Sucks to lose KAT but im excited and very intrigued.
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Post#34 » by breatnach » Mon Sep 30, 2024 2:21 pm

I can't pretend I'm in love with the trade, but we can't hate the guy just because he's replacing a fan favourite. We should give him a fair chance to play out his current contract and then we can decide if he will part of our long-term plans. Even if he crashes and burns, we should still be a playoff team, so we really have nothing to lose by giving him a shot.
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Post#35 » by minimus » Mon Sep 30, 2024 2:45 pm

The way Finch used Slo-Mo gives me hope that Randle can fit right there in Slo-Mo role. There will be a adjustment period for sure, but he can make it.
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Post#36 » by Biff Cooper » Mon Sep 30, 2024 2:59 pm

I'm feeling like Randle will probably be playing quite a few minutes at center for the Wolves this season. He isn't a center, but I think we can play him there against many teams.
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Post#37 » by WentzerWuver » Mon Sep 30, 2024 3:14 pm

minimus wrote:The way Finch used Slo-Mo gives me hope that Randle can fit right there in Slo-Mo role. There will be a adjustment period for sure, but he can make it.
Finch also know Slo-Mo doesn't play like this...Randy plays the ball hog role.

https://youtu.be/gBfU3ltj5t8?si=XN85TcHRULL2VFJs
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Post#38 » by Araxen » Mon Sep 30, 2024 3:42 pm

WentzerWuver wrote:
minimus wrote:The way Finch used Slo-Mo gives me hope that Randle can fit right there in Slo-Mo role. There will be a adjustment period for sure, but he can make it.
Finch also know Slo-Mo doesn't play like this...Randy plays the ball hog role.

https://youtu.be/gBfU3ltj5t8?si=XN85TcHRULL2VFJs


I don't know much about Randle, but you can make a low lights video for KAT too. He'll look like the worst player in the league as well. He's made his fair share of dumb plays in his career. You can start with all those stupid kick out fouls he used to do, then add in all those stupid hooking fouls he does, and sprinkle in the rest of the stuff.
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Post#39 » by minimus » Mon Sep 30, 2024 3:42 pm

WentzerWuver wrote:
minimus wrote:The way Finch used Slo-Mo gives me hope that Randle can fit right there in Slo-Mo role. There will be a adjustment period for sure, but he can make it.
Finch also know Slo-Mo doesn't play like this...Randy plays the ball hog role.

https://youtu.be/gBfU3ltj5t8?si=XN85TcHRULL2VFJs

Did you watch Slo-Mo last season when he was unplayable?
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Post#40 » by shrink » Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:06 pm

I loved how KAT embraced Ant and Rudy.

I have concerns about how Randle will get along with Gobert.

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