Breaking: KAT to the Knicks

NYKinMIA · Post #2401 » by **NYKinMIA** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:44 pm

so the season is already over, right?

should I bother watching?

Post #2402 » by **Capn'O** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:44 pm

god shammgod wrote:
Capn'O wrote:Are we firing thibs and hiring dantoni?

It’s like Leon has no idea why this team was good

I'm really high on Murphy but he's a guy you get instead of Bridges... unless we also plan to trade Hart?

TheGreenArrow · Post #2403 » by **TheGreenArrow** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:45 pm

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god shammgod · Post #2404 » by **god shammgod** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:45 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:Christian wood is a top 5 most worthless player in the league and he might be number 1

I agree, but where does it say the knicks have any interest in him?

The law firm of Jacoby and Reynolds says so lol

Richard4444 · Post #2405 » by **Richard4444** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:46 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
E-Balla wrote:
bronxknicksfan1 wrote:
So being over the cap with no way of signing players is better than acquiring one of the best bigs in the league? Yeah, okay

I think y'all don't realize how this second apron works or why teams are so adamant about staying under it. Unless you're a dynasty already going over the second apron will cripple your franchise for the foreseeable future. KAT is always a major injury risk. It's possible KAT is hurt, were over the 2nd apron twice due to his contract, and a pick that should be a lottery pick ends up the 30th pick due to the new CBA rules. Guys like KAT and Beal are team crippling right now.

I realize I have 14 pages to catch up to, so this is probably answered, but will KAT's salary truly push them over as it increases?

I'm not doubting you, I'm just wondering. Like, in past CBAs, there was salary that was taken on, that teams paid, that didn't count; pretty sure that was when teams re-signed their own FA. How the NBA wanted to encourage star players to stay on their original team etc.

So, as of right now, we know the Knicks are flirting with the 2nd apron, but haven't gone over. I'll assume they don't go over this season.

I know Aller is really good at managing this stuff so I'd be surprised if he was onboard with the Knicks making a move that pushes them over the 2nd apron, at the least, early in the deal - the only thing I could possibly think is that he caved and figured going over in KAT's final season or two might be a compromise he was willing to make. Obviously the ultimate decision is with Leon Rose so maybe Aller's advice got overruled.

If true, it's problematic, as Knicks will have to shed a low-mid to mid sized contract in a few years. Like a Hart sized one. Or Mitch.

Richard4444444 or BX#&H5J%8 usually understand this stuff. StLouisHawks guy too.

*edit - Was Brock Aller the voice in the Knicks FO alluded to as "Not everyone in Knicks FO likes the deal" ?

We cant surpass second apron this season because we are hard-capped (we attached salaries in a trade).

Post #2406 » by **mpharris36** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:46 pm

god shammgod wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:Christian wood is a top 5 most worthless player in the league and he might be number 1

I agree, but where does it say the knicks have any interest in him?

The law firm of Jacoby and Reynolds says so lol

That would be Jakoba! :lol:

TheGreenArrow · Post #2407 » by **TheGreenArrow** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:46 pm

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Post #2408 » by **Capn'O** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:47 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:who is Jakoba Reynolds?

Not buying that one

Speaking of which, trade me Murphy damnit

DaGawd · Post #2409 » by **DaGawd** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:47 pm

NYKinMIA wrote:so the season is already over, right?

should I bother watching?

you’d think this was a tank szn by reading a lot of this thread

3toheadmelo · Post #2410 » by **3toheadmelo** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:48 pm

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god shammgod · Post #2411 » by **god shammgod** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:48 pm

Capn'O wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
Capn'O wrote:Are we firing thibs and hiring dantoni?

It’s like Leon has no idea why this team was good

I'm really high on Murphy but he's a guy you get instead of Bridges... unless we also plan to trade Hart?

Hey Jalen we traded for all your college teammates so you could play together……sike lol

Post #2412 » by **mpharris36** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:50 pm

Capn'O wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
Capn'O wrote:Are we firing thibs and hiring dantoni?

It’s like Leon has no idea why this team was good

I'm really high on Murphy but he's a guy you get instead of Bridges... unless we also plan to trade Hart?

If they are moving hart into the starting lineup...with Mikal and OG...Murphy being the first wing off the bench isn't a terrible move. Also good insurance for OG.

DaGawd · Post #2413 » by **DaGawd** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:51 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:

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DaGawd · Post #2414 » by **DaGawd** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:52 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
god shammgod wrote:It’s like Leon has no idea why this team was good

I'm really high on Murphy but he's a guy you get instead of Bridges... unless we also plan to trade Hart?

If they are moving hart into the starting lineup...with Mikal and OG...Murphy being the first wing off the bench isn't a terrible move. Also good insurance for OG.

my thoughts exactly. every one talks about how weak our depth is now, don’t see how adding murphy is a bad thing, especially knowing og is going to miss time here and there

Jalen Bluntson · Post #2415 » by **Jalen Bluntson** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:53 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
E-Balla wrote:All in to me means significantly improving the roster. Not sacrificing depth and cap flexibility for two guys we'd be lucky to get a combined 82 games out of.

once we traded for OG (knowing we were going to pay him) and then traded for Mikal knowing we will pay him...and extended Brunson...there is no more "capf lexiblity" is over...we officially signed the next 4-5 years we will be tax apron team. No getting out at this point. Randle leaving for nothing (for example) doesn't give us any additional flexibility (it just would happen what happened to ihart..he leaves and you can't replace him.

100% agreed the team went all in to be a cap 2nd apron team.

E-Balla is bringing up that Town's increases will throw them OVER the 2nd apron.

Is this true? That would suck, as it would push what happens to #1 picks out 7 years, and the Knicks already went ALL in in a 5 year window by trading 5 picks and doing...3 swaps? It's a lot.

To have a 1st rounder flip for 30th 2 years past that would kind of suck.

I just woke up but, am I missing something? If we are matching salaries to make this trade happen, then how would it be any different? Knowing Randle needs to get a raise next year because he turned down his extension means we would go even further over the cap than we will be now. Randle would double his salary at that point.

god shammgod · Post #2416 » by **god shammgod** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:53 pm

I gotta give it to Leon. This was a hell of a long con. He built up a lot of good will before he left us capped out with no assets and with an oft injured flawed one way overpaid star. Usually that happens sooner lol

WargamesX · Post #2417 » by **WargamesX** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:54 pm

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Funny note I heard the valuation dropped to a quarter so the lack of quality isn't a surprise. I don't think this rumor is true.

NoDopeOnSundays · Post #2418 » by **NoDopeOnSundays** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:55 pm

Why would the pelican's trade Murphy for Mitch? I'd move Ingram long before I move Murphy, and if I wanted a center and was moving Murphy I'd hit up the Jazz for Kessler since he'll be available from the start of the season.

Handledatruth · Post #2419 » by **Handledatruth** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:55 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:

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lol you going to do this all season? He's a tall Randle, you should like him.

E-Balla · Post #2420 » by **E-Balla** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:56 pm

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Why? What need could this possibly fill? Why give up so much for Hart, Bridges, and OG if we also need Trey? What are we even doing ATP?