KAT To The Knicks Part 2

TheGreenArrow · Post #361 » by **TheGreenArrow** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:49 pm

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Divo wanted to stay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SOMEKnicks · Post #362 » by **SOMEKnicks** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:49 pm

E-Balla wrote:His contract was accepted by Minny fans because he's stayed there. They don't mind paying him way more than his worth because he stuck with them all those down years. We don't have a history with him so he's just a player worth $30 mil making $56 mil to us. Then the personality fit with the Knicks just ain't strong we known as the meanest fans in the league lol.

A player worth $30m these days is Immanuel Quickley. $56m is the new $30m.

Inflation is a b####!

Guano · Post #363 » by **Guano** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:50 pm

KnicksGod wrote:
dukeknicksirish wrote:

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Somebody wants a change of scenery I see

Mentally eliminated at 0-0.

He knows his coworkers suck so he is being clear with the bosses that he isn't doing more than what was agreed upon. I respect it. Open communication and firm boundaries.

TheGreenArrow · Post #364 » by **TheGreenArrow** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:50 pm

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Guano · Post #365 » by **Guano** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:51 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Guano wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:

I'm just so happy you have to do clean up for his social media stuff because he acts like a passive aggressive teenage girl, you get a glimpse into what it's like to be Kanye's PR manager, and I couldn't be happier. What a tremendous off-season.

Sham seeing a notification from mitch's ig

sham still got a blackplanet page to backup his myspace page, I'm shocked he even knows what IG is.

Someone in his family set it up on his phone.

dukeknicksirish · Post #366 » by **dukeknicksirish** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:53 pm

god shammgod wrote:i don't want to be negative to you guys who like this. but the kat trade just seems bad. it really does. it reminds me of the old knicks that people laughed at. it seems like we didn't want to pay randle and we just took the only other guy we could get for him who could produce similarly and ignored all the downsides.

Do you still not trust team leadership? I’ve accepted to trust their moves. I wasn’t sold on trading RJ/IQ for OG at the time. Took me a few days but then came around to it. Until the team drastically gets worse from a deal, I’m open to what they see as best.

E-Balla · Post #367 » by **E-Balla** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:53 pm

god shammgod wrote:i don't want to be negative to you guys who like this. but the kat trade just seems bad. it really does. it reminds me of the old knicks that people laughed at. it seems like we didn't want to pay randle and we just took the only other guy we could get for him who could produce similarly and ignored all the downsides.

You better than me. To me this looked like an agent getting his last major client who's on a giant deal a spot on a decent squad instead of Siberia (Detroit) shortly after getting his son's biggest client one of the most insane contracts of the offseason after shorting his godson.

god shammgod · Post #368 » by **god shammgod** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:53 pm

Guano wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Guano wrote:
Sham seeing a notification from mitch's ig

sham still got a blackplanet page to backup his myspace page, I'm shocked he even knows what IG is.

Someone in his family set it up on his phone.

sham is the guy who has to fix everyone's phone/computer problems unfortunately. and he has to take their calls asking for money on top of that. i got my phone on do not disturb almost all day long every day :lol:

Jadoogar · Post #369 » by **Jadoogar** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:53 pm

Moose wrote:
Jadoogar wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Not much. We have Mitch. WAS FRP some 2nd rd picks. The rookies. Trade rights for Rokas. That's about it unless some lunatics want to trade Deuce.

i wouldn't consider MItch an asset. If he's healthy, Knicks would be better off to just keep him. If he's not healthy, no one really wants that.

If one of the rookies pops, i would look to move them for established vets

IIRC, Precious can't be moved this year.

I'm pretty sure Precious can be moved at the deadline.

you're right, normally players on 1 year deals can't be traded

By returning on a one-year deal, Achiuwa had the right to reject any trade during the 2024-25 season. He waived that right and can be moved as soon as Jan. 15, 2025.

Post #370 » by **K_ick_God** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:53 pm

In part it does seem panicky bc they lost iHart. If he stays maybe Randle comes back. But if Randle had heart or was a reliably good big, especially in the playoffs, they wouldn’t deal him.

Can’t overlook KAT’s playoffs but also can’t overlook that Josh was a better PF than Randle come playoff time.

NoDopeOnSundays · Post #371 » by **NoDopeOnSundays** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:54 pm

god shammgod wrote:
Guano wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:

sham still got a blackplanet page to backup his myspace page, I'm shocked he even knows what IG is.

Someone in his family set it up on his phone.

sham is the guy who has to fix everyone's phone/computer problems unfortunately. and he has to take their calls asking for money on top of that. i got my phone on do not disturb almost all day long every day

Lemme hold $10 then, shammoneybags.

Jalen Bluntson · Post #372 » by **Jalen Bluntson** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:54 pm

TheGreenArrow wrote:

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Best PG in the East
Best 2 way wings in the league
Best shooting big man in the history of the game.

We're a 6 seed all of a sudden. :lol:

Guano · Post #373 » by **Guano** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:54 pm

god shammgod wrote:i don't want to be negative to you guys who like this. but the kat trade just seems bad. it really does. it reminds me of the old knicks that people laughed at. it seems like we didn't want to pay randle and we just took the only other guy we could get for him who could produce similarly and ignored all the downsides.

I dont think it'll be disastrous like previous trades, as long as he stays healthy. But I really think it caps the knicks ability to win it all. Hate that this is who they tied to Brunson'a prime

NoDopeOnSundays · Post #374 » by **NoDopeOnSundays** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:56 pm

Guano wrote:
god shammgod wrote:i don't want to be negative to you guys who like this. but the kat trade just seems bad. it really does. it reminds me of the old knicks that people laughed at. it seems like we didn't want to pay randle and we just took the only other guy we could get for him who could produce similarly and ignored all the downsides.

I dont think it'll be disastrous like previous trades, as long as he stays healthy. But I really think it caps the knicks ability to win it all. Hate that this is who they tied to Brunson'a prime

I just don't see anyone outside of the Celtics that's great and even they're getting a little long in the tooth (Jrue/Horford), the league is completely wide open until Victor is ready to destroy worlds.

E-Balla · Post #375 » by **E-Balla** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:58 pm

SOMEKnicks wrote:
E-Balla wrote:His contract was accepted by Minny fans because he's stayed there. They don't mind paying him way more than his worth because he stuck with them all those down years. We don't have a history with him so he's just a player worth $30 mil making $56 mil to us. Then the personality fit with the Knicks just ain't strong we known as the meanest fans in the league lol.

A player worth $30m these days is Immanuel Quickley. $56m is the new $30m.

Inflation is a b####!

You got the wrong one IQ don't have a bigger fan on this board. 20/5/7 with great defense at 25 years old? Sign me up.

Post #376 » by **K_ick_God** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:59 pm

dukeknicksirish wrote:

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KAT at the 4 in February folks!!

His realtor was sham.

god shammgod · Post #377 » by **god shammgod** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:59 pm

horford gotta age out the league soon. he's 38. father time taking his sweet ass time with him.

Chanel Bomber · Post #378 » by **Chanel Bomber** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:59 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:They never got past the first round with KAT at C. Their defensive ratings were in the lower end of the league when he played C. These aren’t good signs man.

What was their talent for all these years?

They didn't have Anthony Edwards or Rudy Gobert. Jimmy Butler got hurt in his only full season with the team. Otherwise their second-best player was Andrew Wiggins who was RJ Barretting his way to 20 ppg before going to Golden State, where he only gave a speck of effort for one season. D'Angelo Russell? A young Zach Lavine?

I agree that the defense will suffer with him playing the 5 but the offense will benefit greatly.

I guess we will see but I think Minnesota's lack of success had more to do with a general lack of talent than any positional issues with KAT. They were 3rd in the West when Butler got hurt before the playoffs, and KAT was playing the 5 then. I think a lot of Minnesota's issues were contextual. Think who they even traded Butler for - Saric, Bayless and Covington lol.

The Timberwolves had a much better net rating with KAT off the court even in the 2024 playoffs. Doesn’t really sound promising especially when he got benched a decent amount of times because Naz Reid was better.

That's a fair cause for concern.

Both KAT and Naz Reid had among the worst on/offs per 100 possession on the team in the playoffs. Meanwhile Gobert was by far #1 on the team, and the Wolves had a hugely positive net rating when Gobert was playing with either KAT or Naz. It's when KAT and Naz played together that the Wolves got smoked in the postseason.

Who was playing the 5 in those KAT-Naz lineups is a question I don't have the answer to.

Guano · Post #379 » by **Guano** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:00 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Guano wrote:
god shammgod wrote:i don't want to be negative to you guys who like this. but the kat trade just seems bad. it really does. it reminds me of the old knicks that people laughed at. it seems like we didn't want to pay randle and we just took the only other guy we could get for him who could produce similarly and ignored all the downsides.

I dont think it'll be disastrous like previous trades, as long as he stays healthy. But I really think it caps the knicks ability to win it all. Hate that this is who they tied to Brunson'a prime

I just don't see anyone outside of the Celtics that's great and even they're getting a little long in the tooth (Jrue/Horford), the league is completely wide open until Victor is ready to destroy worlds.

You know that's a great point that I can get behind. Everyone is fcked in a couple years. So if they think this trade brings them closer might as well make it cause that French freak is about to ruin the league real quick.

E-Balla · Post #380 » by **E-Balla** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:00 pm

god shammgod wrote:horford gotta age out the league soon. he's 38. father time taking his sweet ass time with him.

Joel Embiid been praying for this for half a decade now.