KAT To The Knicks Part 2

[Chanel Bomber]

Considering Mitch social media tantrums about games just being cardio…

Spoiler:

Big Meech is only asking for one post-up a game to unveil futuristic sky hook.

But no, people don't see the vision.

Basketball Van Gogh.

I may have missed your take but, whats your take on the KAT trade Chanel, what does the TS% say about the Knicks and if they improved?

That was my take

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=114932761#p114932761

[aggo]

Also since I've mostly talked about KAT's poor defensive fit and contract I'll add something positive, Brunson should have Isiah Thomas numbers playing with KAT, OG, Bridges, and Hart. If Thibs can scheme an offense for once Brunson-Hart pick and rolls should be a major part of our offense similar to Steph-Draymond pick and rolls.

IDK about our overall offense increasing a ton (we were already a top 3 offense with Brunson and Randle) but we'll be way more efficient and less reliant on garbage buckets.

I think Bridges is the x factor. If we get the Bridges we saw at SG in Brooklyn that first year we'll have 3 guys capable of 25+ ppg for extended stretches with incredible midrange games.

Look at this guy, talking all that **** and now hedging everything he said

Emotional. Soft and fake. Just like KAT

[thebuzzardman]

Knicks get Tre Murphy yet?

[E-Balla]

Also since I've mostly talked about KAT's poor defensive fit and contract I'll add something positive, Brunson should have Isiah Thomas numbers playing with KAT, OG, Bridges, and Hart. If Thibs can scheme an offense for once Brunson-Hart pick and rolls should be a major part of our offense similar to Steph-Draymond pick and rolls.

IDK about our overall offense increasing a ton (we were already a top 3 offense with Brunson and Randle) but we'll be way more efficient and less reliant on garbage buckets.

I think Bridges is the x factor. If we get the Bridges we saw at SG in Brooklyn that first year we'll have 3 guys capable of 25+ ppg for extended stretches with incredible midrange games.

Look at this guy, talking all that **** and now hedging everything he said

Emotional. Soft and fake. Just like KAT

George Bush will pay for his crimes.

[TerrenceClarke]

Yo these real GM streets is thugged out right now

The clapping is elite level.

[Capn'O]

Big Meech is only asking for one post-up a game to unveil futuristic sky hook.

But no, people don't see the vision.

Basketball Van Gogh.

I may have missed your take but, whats your take on the KAT trade Chanel, what does the TS% say about the Knicks and if they improved?

That was my take

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=114932761#p114932761

I'll easily grant that the offense will be the easier end to figure. We won't rely on OREB as much but we should have a more efficient first attack.

[stuporman]

Oh...and I noticed on the GB how they are calling Divo a great 3&D, two way player...I know he competes really hard on both ends of the court and has a knack for jumping the lanes for steals plus an occasional chase down block but since when did he become a great defender? Over the summer?

[mpharris36]

Also since I've mostly talked about KAT's poor defensive fit and contract I'll add something positive, Brunson should have Isiah Thomas numbers playing with KAT, OG, Bridges, and Hart. If Thibs can scheme an offense for once Brunson-Hart pick and rolls should be a major part of our offense similar to Steph-Draymond pick and rolls.

IDK about our overall offense increasing a ton (we were already a top 3 offense with Brunson and Randle) but we'll be way more efficient and less reliant on garbage buckets.

I think Bridges is the x factor. If we get the Bridges we saw at SG in Brooklyn that first year we'll have 3 guys capable of 25+ ppg for extended stretches with incredible midrange games.

[mpharris36]

Oh...and I noticed on the GB how they are calling Divo a great 3&D, two way player...I know he competes really hard on both ends of the court and has a knack for jumping the lanes for steals but since when did he become a great defender? Over the summer?

Divo is actually a really poor defender...he is good at steals but gambles way too much.

Giving those minutes to Duece should improve our perimeter defense.

[MrDollarBills]

Also since I've mostly talked about KAT's poor defensive fit and contract I'll add something positive, Brunson should have Isiah Thomas numbers playing with KAT, OG, Bridges, and Hart. If Thibs can scheme an offense for once Brunson-Hart pick and rolls should be a major part of our offense similar to Steph-Draymond pick and rolls.

IDK about our overall offense increasing a ton (we were already a top 3 offense with Brunson and Randle) but we'll be way more efficient and less reliant on garbage buckets.

I think Bridges is the x factor. If we get the Bridges we saw at SG in Brooklyn that first year we'll have 3 guys capable of 25+ ppg for extended stretches with incredible midrange games.

Bridges should do a lot better without having being targeted by defenses this year, i think him being on the floor with the 2nd unit when Brunson gets a blow (pause?) is where you'll see him probably use more of his scoring ability. He's gonna have some nights where he looks unstoppable and others where that 15 to 18 points is the best he can do, but really his value will be locking in defensively and spacing for JB.

In general I would like to see the 2nd unit play faster by forcing TOs and getting out in transition while Brunson isn't on the floor.

[Wildcat]

Gobert subtly calling KAT soft as well

Read on Twitter

Rudy said it right. Julius has gotten better very season (aside from that offseason) with NY.

KAT's here. I just hope NYK can pull the dawg out of him.

No he didn't. He was bad year good year bad year Julius until we got Brunson. Everyone who watched this team knows that. He's also never performed well or made it through the playoffs...ever.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Yes, anyone who watched the games and read the stats know Randle improved every year except one with the Knicks. Literally, statistically, whateverly. C'mon, man.

[stuporman]

Oh...and I noticed on the GB how they are calling Divo a great 3&D, two way player...I know he competes really hard on both ends of the court and has a knack for jumping the lanes for steals but since when did he become a great defender? Over the summer?

Divo is actually a really poor defender...he is good at steals but gambles way too much.

Giving those minutes to Duece should improve our perimeter defense.

Watching Deuce run next to Brunson last season guarding 2s, which I wasn't sure he'd be able to do against starters when he was drafted, convinces me the Knicks won't lose that much with him off the bench instead of Divo now. He even can actually handle the ball a little, too, compared to Divo who is much more limited in that respect.

[N Y K]

What's the deal with Marcus Morris and Okeke? Can we still sign them or is that not possible anymore?

I hate not having truer, more sustainable PF options on this team other than Achiuwa.

[MrDollarBills]

Oh...and I noticed on the GB how they are calling Divo a great 3&D, two way player...I know he competes really hard on both ends of the court and has a knack for jumping the lanes for steals but since when did he become a great defender? Over the summer?

Divo is actually a really poor defender...he is good at steals but gambles way too much.

Giving those minutes to Duece should improve our perimeter defense.

Yeah I wouldn't call Delaware J a 3 and D player. He hustles and makes plays but as a 1 v 1 defender he's not locking anyone up.

[3toheadmelo]

Read on Twitter

This is hilarious. He has a 112 ORTG overall, this means his ORTG with Towns on the floor is barely better than with him on the floor.

This made me just look up the numbers. Ant with KAT on the floor averages 26.6 points per 100 on 59 TS% and 25% of his shots come at the rim. With KAT on the bench he averages 28.5 points per 100 on 56 TS% and 29% of his shots come at the rim. His overall efficiency goes down with KAT on the bench (slightly) and his shot quality increases with KAT on the bench (his expected FG% goes from 52.1 to 52.8). Now this obviously isn't measuring KAT in a vacuum since Naz brings just as much spacing as KAT while demanding less touches, it's just funny to me these numbers got posted with no comparison to how he plays when KAT isn't on the floor.

Guy posted numbers and doesn’t even know how to comprehend them lmaooo

[Capn'O]

Also since I've mostly talked about KAT's poor defensive fit and contract I'll add something positive, Brunson should have Isiah Thomas numbers playing with KAT, OG, Bridges, and Hart. If Thibs can scheme an offense for once Brunson-Hart pick and rolls should be a major part of our offense similar to Steph-Draymond pick and rolls.

IDK about our overall offense increasing a ton (we were already a top 3 offense with Brunson and Randle) but we'll be way more efficient and less reliant on garbage buckets.

I think Bridges is the x factor. If we get the Bridges we saw at SG in Brooklyn that first year we'll have 3 guys capable of 25+ ppg for extended stretches with incredible midrange games.

Unfortunately, it sounds like he's not quite sure what to do with a team saddled with Paul George, James Harden, and Zach Lavine. It's a good team but hard to really go anywhere with it so I don't blame him for passing it by. Pity.

[BKlutch]

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Sorry, that's just silly considering we moved Randle. But he does help a bit in that regard.

Not really, before Randle got hurt IHart was averaging 1.9apg, after he got hurt IHart averaged 3.3apg for the regular season and 3.5apg for the playoffs. He was a passing hub which is why the Thunder threw the bag at him, because even if he's not shooting the three which I think he will do with them, he still has to be accounted for from the top of the key for passing or getting off that little floater.

I think the playoffs made the Knicks FO rethink the team, having Hart/OG playing together and their cutting/movement would be amplified if you have a C that can pass a bit and shoot ontop of it.

Just want to post what you said once again ... this is a huge point that most overlook when the compare players by points. The expected synergy with Brunson out to raise this to another level. The FO is looking for this and I know the coaches are going to pound this into them until it's second nature (if it isn't already).

[3toheadmelo]

Gobert subtly calling KAT soft as well

Read on Twitter

How is any of that even remote close to calling Kat soft?

Ain’t you the same one that just said you don’t understand why people bringing up Kat when they mention Randle?

You good?

If you can’t read between the lines then yeah you won’t see he’s subtly dissing KAT. Y’all really in denial about KAT being soft is hilarious when dude gets no respect from around the league.

Sounds like you having trouble reading too. I said y’all rebuttals only have Randle in your mouth when we talking about KAT’s game. You good tho Brodie?

[E-Balla]

Also since I've mostly talked about KAT's poor defensive fit and contract I'll add something positive, Brunson should have Isiah Thomas numbers playing with KAT, OG, Bridges, and Hart. If Thibs can scheme an offense for once Brunson-Hart pick and rolls should be a major part of our offense similar to Steph-Draymond pick and rolls.

IDK about our overall offense increasing a ton (we were already a top 3 offense with Brunson and Randle) but we'll be way more efficient and less reliant on garbage buckets.

I think Bridges is the x factor. If we get the Bridges we saw at SG in Brooklyn that first year we'll have 3 guys capable of 25+ ppg for extended stretches with incredible midrange games.

Bridges should do a lot better without having being targeted by defenses this year, i think him being on the floor with the 2nd unit when Brunson gets a blow (pause?) is where you'll see him probably use more of his scoring ability. He's gonna have some nights where he looks unstoppable and others where that 15 to 18 points is the best he can do, but really his value will be locking in defensively and spacing for JB.

In general I would like to see the 2nd unit play faster by forcing TOs and getting out in transition while Brunson isn't on the floor.

We don't have anyone I trust handling the ball in transition with Brunson off the floor. Our second unit, like last year, will be lockdown but Cam Payne smokes open layups and plays out of control as is. Definitely don't want him running and gunning. He's better spotting up.

Honestly I don't see our offense being great without JB out there. Just not enough ball handling talent. We'll be relying on contested Mikal and KAT midrange looks.

[BKlutch]

Blows my mind that people are still ignoring the fact that we very likely take the celtics 6 or 7 if we just have OG out there. Bottom line is that we traded away all our depth and picks for pieces we didn't really NEED. All we NEEDED was a center replacement for iHart after he left us for OKC and a secondary PG to facilitate things while Brunson rests

We didn't NEED mikal and we definitely didn't NEED kat. We were already a top 3 team in the league as is.

If you applied this logic to the Boston Celtics they likely don't win a title last year because they wouldn't have traded for Jrue and KP because they didn't "need' either of them. They gave up useful depth pieces and assets to get them and were clearly a top 3-5 team when healthy already.

Not saying this is the exact same situation but, you shouldn't avoid improving your talent level just because you may lose some depth in the process.

The Celts gave up freakin' Marcus SMART and they improved -- most people said it was a bad move but they won it all. Sometimes the Front Office does know a thing or two.