KAT To The Knicks Part 2

[Fat Kat]

its day 2 of the trade

do you think the randle Stans can keep this energy up?

Stan culture is very toxic. This can go on for a while.

[mpharris36]

His career average is like 42% from the top of the key too. He's always killed from there.

whichin theory makes him a great fit here offensively with OG and Mikal are +40% 3 point shooters from the corner. We are going to be a tough **** matchup with Brunson putting pressure in the mid range and rim with his floater.

MIkal and KAT are also pretty good in the mid range as well. OG wasn't half bad with his middy last year as well. That plays up in the playoffs when teams try to take away your strength and give up mid ranges for free.

I don't know why this post gave me hope after not loving the trade. I still have no idea how we will protect the rim but maybe I am being too pessimistic.

Speaking of rim protection does anyone know why opponents shot 66% at the rim against Mitch in the regular season and 68% in the playoffs? Those are terrible numbers for a defensive big. I know his numbers outside of rebounding have decreased over the last few years from field goal percentage to free throw percentage but is he no longer the rim protector we think he is?

He has gained weight and is less explosive but is the idea he is a great rim protector just in our heads or is something being missed in those numbers? I don't follow defensive metrics but I thought all of them favored him.

Mitch had horrible rim protecting numbers last year...chalking that up to small sample size and how much he was injured last year (and wasn't really in shape).

[aggo]

whichin theory makes him a great fit here offensively with OG and Mikal are +40% 3 point shooters from the corner. We are going to be a tough **** matchup with Brunson putting pressure in the mid range and rim with his floater.

MIkal and KAT are also pretty good in the mid range as well. OG wasn't half bad with his middy last year as well. That plays up in the playoffs when teams try to take away your strength and give up mid ranges for free.

I don't know why this post gave me hope after not loving the trade. I still have no idea how we will protect the rim but maybe I am being too pessimistic.

Speaking of rim protection does anyone know why opponents shot 66% at the rim against Mitch in the regular season and 68% in the playoffs? Those are terrible numbers for a defensive big. I know his numbers outside of rebounding have decreased over the last few years from field goal percentage to free throw percentage but is he no longer the rim protector we think he is?

He has gained weight and is less explosive but is the idea he is a great rim protector just in our heads or is something being missed in those numbers? I don't follow defensive metrics but I thought all of them favored him.

Mitch had horrible rim protecting numbers last year...chalking that up to small sample size and how much he was injured last year (and wasn't really in shape).

if u really want to fight the demons


go back farther than last year, and you'll be surprised by what you find.

[Capn'O]

The people who keep going on and on about great KAT seem like they’re trying to convince themselves more than they’re trying to convince anyone else.

Look, fellas, most people around the league are lukewarm on this. This is not even close to a slam dunk. And the downside - injuries with gigantic immovable contract is so massive that this trade was simply not worth the risk.

But here we are.

The Knicks will Knick.

I also don’t want to hear about Leon Rose again. 98% of this guys transactions are simply acquiring his former players, family friends, or anyone connected to Thibs/Gersos or whatever his name is. It would be more impressive if he could think outside the box and not only acquire CAA clients or people Thibs baptized.

We basically went all in on the worst defensive center in the league that happens to be more injury prone than Mitchell Robinson. Yet the homers here think we crazy for not loving the move

A representation of what this trade has done.

Brought two ‘rivals’ together.

Also Chanel and NoDope against you. Strange times.

[3toheadmelo]

I root for the Knicks and this is a Knicks forum. No non-Knicks matter. Randle’s pouting azz included.

You be rooting for your man’s Devin Vassell and mikal before he became a Knick in other threads. Don’t do that switching up schit with me cause I got receipts for days

And we’re all rooting for KAT. Just because we don’t love the move like you doesn’t mean we ain’t rooting for him. Seems like it’s hard for you to differentiate from that. Carry on though.

I wanted to draft them because I knew they would be good. Never rooted for them or their teams. You got the receipts, show them.

I got you later this week when my computer gets fixed. Too buggy on my phone. You kept posting for years we should trade for mikal aka stanning for him. Posting pics of dude in a Knick jersey and the whole 9 yards. You was even mad we chose Knox over your boy and was upset about it. That’s stan culcha for you.

[Deeeez Knicks]

There's good points why this trade may work, and good points why it may not work. Its really tough to say until we see it on the floor. Theoretically if it does work out with KAT at C it gives the Knicks more upside.

[aggo]

There's good points why this trade may work, and good points why it may not work. Its really tough to say until we see it on the floor. Theoretically if it does work out with KAT at C it gives the Knicks more upside.

we dont even know if KAT is going to be playing C

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[3toheadmelo]

There's good points why this trade may work, and good points why it may not work. Its really tough to say until we see it on the floor. Theoretically if it does work out with KAT at C it gives the Knicks more upside.

we dont even know if KAT is going to be playing C

Marc stein said we want to use KAT like how Boston uses KP. He’s gonna be playing C unfortunately. If we somehow win a chip with KAT playing the 5 I’ll post an public apology to you once a month for a whole year

[Clyde_Style]

its day 2 of the trade

do you think the randle Stans can keep this energy up?

[JayTWill]

whichin theory makes him a great fit here offensively with OG and Mikal are +40% 3 point shooters from the corner. We are going to be a tough **** matchup with Brunson putting pressure in the mid range and rim with his floater.

MIkal and KAT are also pretty good in the mid range as well. OG wasn't half bad with his middy last year as well. That plays up in the playoffs when teams try to take away your strength and give up mid ranges for free.

I don't know why this post gave me hope after not loving the trade. I still have no idea how we will protect the rim but maybe I am being too pessimistic.

Speaking of rim protection does anyone know why opponents shot 66% at the rim against Mitch in the regular season and 68% in the playoffs? Those are terrible numbers for a defensive big. I know his numbers outside of rebounding have decreased over the last few years from field goal percentage to free throw percentage but is he no longer the rim protector we think he is?

He has gained weight and is less explosive but is the idea he is a great rim protector just in our heads or is something being missed in those numbers? I don't follow defensive metrics but I thought all of them favored him.

Mitch had horrible rim protecting numbers last year...chalking that up to small sample size and how much he was injured last year (and wasn't really in shape).

I checked and his rim protection numbers were bad before and after he returned from injury. I don't remember if Mitch was returning from injury/out of shape to start the season since it just seems like a continuous cycle at this point.

[aggo]

There's good points why this trade may work, and good points why it may not work. Its really tough to say until we see it on the floor. Theoretically if it does work out with KAT at C it gives the Knicks more upside.

we dont even know if KAT is going to be playing C

Marc stein said we want to use KAT like how Boston uses KP. He’s gonna be playing C unfortunately. If we somehow win a chip with KAT playing the 5 I’ll post an public apology to you once a month for a whole year

bro


you dont need to apologize for **** lmao


just enjoy the ride

[TheGreenArrow]

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Brunson
Herb
Mikal
Og
Kat

Or

Brunson
Murphy
Mikal
Og
Kat

Either of those lineups and you can pretty much wrap the season up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Best team in the league and it isn’t even close!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Fat Kat]

You be rooting for your man’s Devin Vassell and mikal before he became a Knick in other threads. Don’t do that switching up schit with me cause I got receipts for days

And we’re all rooting for KAT. Just because we don’t love the move like you doesn’t mean we ain’t rooting for him. Seems like it’s hard for you to differentiate from that. Carry on though.

I wanted to draft them because I knew they would be good. Never rooted for them or their teams. You got the receipts, show them.

I got you later this week when my computer gets fixed. Too buggy on my phone. You kept posting for years we should trade for mikal aka stanning for him. Posting pics of dude in a Knick jersey and the whole 9 yards. You was even mad we chose Knox over your boy and was upset about it. That’s stan culcha for you.

Don’t change it up now. “ “You be rooting for your man’s Devin Vassell and mikal before he became a Knick in other threads”. Show me the receipts.

Computer broken

[SelbyCobra]

Thinking about it, I'm not sure there's been a single transaction in the Leon era that received a universal initial reaction of anything above "lukewarm".

Everything from drafting Quickley, to signing Brunson, to trading for Hart, to signing Donte & iHart, to acquiring OG & Bridges. All of it was met with something on the spectrum from LOLKNICKS to "meh" to "I see it but it's still highly questionable", but never anything above that. While some of us may have had strong positive opinions on these moves, I don't think Leon has had a single general consensus slam dunk home run type of transaction in his time here.

EDIT: Actually, I think the McBride contract might be one.

[aggo]

trading mitch doesn't make a lot of sense.


even if hes unhappy about becoming a 15mpg player, it literally might save his entire career being stuck playing 15minutes for a year.

[Deeeez Knicks]

There's good points why this trade may work, and good points why it may not work. Its really tough to say until we see it on the floor. Theoretically if it does work out with KAT at C it gives the Knicks more upside.

we dont even know if KAT is going to be playing C

He's going to have to play minutes at C, especially with Mitch out, and to get our best players on the floor.

Ideally we play him minutes at both of PF and C and mix it up. Against a team like the Celtics we are going to need to match up against them with KAT at C

[Im Coming Home]

its day 2 of the trade

do you think the randle Stans can keep this energy up?

Stan culture is very toxic. This can go on for a while.

If only the mods didn't watch and do nothing about the obvious trolling and nonsense. But if the last 3-4 years is anything to go by, nothing will be done, and trolls will be allowed to be trolls.

[stuporman]

Oh how cute...some Wolves media heads think Randle will play defense. They translate 'toughness' into playing defense...haha, they will learn.

Randle is the toughest player in the league with the ball in his hands but we have to stress 'with the ball in his hands' part of it. I've never seen a player have such a wide spectrum of energy and 'toughness' from ball in his hands to the other end of the court. His defensive zombie mode is absolutely mind boggling for someone with his athletic gifts.

Talk all you want about KAT's defensive ability, sure, but from what I have seen he tries on defense, Randle doesn't except for rare instances. Who knows why he chooses those rare moments to actually try but it's so rare I actually notice it when he does as the anomaly that it is.

If Randle goes to Minnesota and finally tries all the time on defense, it's even more disrespectful to the Knicks organization, his former teammates and the fans who bleed blue and orange. He could have tried all along but chose not to until he gets traded away? Wow...ok. bye guy.

This isn't me 'hating' Randle, this is me stating facts whether his stans like it or not and if you are on this board saying you will root for the Knicks until they play Randle then you ARE stans of the player, not fans of the Knicks.