Karl-Anthony Towns Traded to New York (Official Discussion Thread)

[frankenwolf]

When I saw this yesterday morning, I was not a happy camper. My first thought was "All the SOB's who wanted a Randle for KAT trade finally got their wish." I will miss KAT and his smile, his shot and his team first attitude. Reflection on this trade still doesn't make me happy, as I'm pretty sure the Wolves as constructed could have won a championship this year.

I do understand why it happened, because they are afraid of that LT and the second apron restrictions. This is a business, in the end, and no matter who is running it, they would like to not spend any extra money if they can help it. KAT wound up being extra money. I just hope all you that despise KAT are wiling to eat crow when he comes back to the cities and puts up 70 against "a better defense, now that KAT is gone."

Let's see what this team can do, but I don't think they made it better for the short term.

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And I will be ecstatic if I'm wrong and they win the championship this year

Two things: What make you think with Kat being a player we need and count on have us winning a championship? When has KAT shown to be part of a winning team? (please don't say last year) With the way the team was constructed last we should of won if KAT could dominate PJ F'in Washington.

Second point. I could see Kat coming back and lighting it up for 70pts but from my experience that means we win. Look at KAT's 62 point game last year. I could also see KAT picking up two quick fouls and sitting for most of the first half.

One: Why not say last year? It's progression and last year's team was different than any he was on previously. The Wolves might have won the Dallas series if Ant had dominated Luka F'in Doncic, so maybe it's Ant's fault.

Two: sure, but we are hanging our identity hat on being a more defensive team, so, theoretically, he shouldn't get us for 70.

[Slim Tubby]

I think the point you and shrink are missing about his contract is you cant pay anyone that much money who isn't a winner. Pussy Kat isn't a winner and doesn't make winning plays regardless of the money he makes. Ever contract no matter how big or small you want guys who get better, love to win and show up when it counts.

The money might of played a roll in this trade but I think the fact PJ F'in Washington out played Karl "Pussy Kat" Towns in the Western Conference Finals. Stop giving this guy a pass cause he was nice and wanted to stay here. His playoff/big game numbers are were the men sperate themselves from the boys and Towns plays like a boy in those games making a mans salary.

Get lost with your disgusting comment. KAT has been a great player for us and he isn't a pussy you sicko. I'd like you to be alone with him and call him a pussy. See what happens.

I personal know KAT would do anything about it. He doesn't have that fight in him. Watch the Green attack on Rudy...... were was KAT? I've seen Kat in public he doesn't intermediate me at all. Just cause your tall doesn't mean anything.

Stop calling Pussy KAT a great player. You can call in a nice guy maybe even a great person or a great shooter (unless it counts in teh playoffs) But he isn't a "Great Player" the stats and record prove that.

Can you at least pretend to have some class and maturity, Internet tough guy? Thanks.

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[Klomp]

One thing that really surprises me is that not one person has mentioned that trading KAT might piss Ant off. If it does and leads to his early departure it was a HORRIBLE trade.

It didn't. Ant understands it's a business.

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[DaMplsKid]

When I saw this yesterday morning, I was not a happy camper. My first thought was "All the SOB's who wanted a Randle for KAT trade finally got their wish." I will miss KAT and his smile, his shot and his team first attitude. Reflection on this trade still doesn't make me happy, as I'm pretty sure the Wolves as constructed could have won a championship this year.

I do understand why it happened, because they are afraid of that LT and the second apron restrictions. This is a business, in the end, and no matter who is running it, they would like to not spend any extra money if they can help it. KAT wound up being extra money. I just hope all you that despise KAT are wiling to eat crow when he comes back to the cities and puts up 70 against "a better defense, now that KAT is gone."

Let's see what this team can do, but I don't think they made it better for the short term.

Spoiler:

And I will be ecstatic if I'm wrong and they win the championship this year

Two things: What make you think with Kat being a player we need and count on have us winning a championship? When has KAT shown to be part of a winning team? (please don't say last year) With the way the team was constructed last we should of won if KAT could dominate PJ F'in Washington.

Second point. I could see Kat coming back and lighting it up for 70pts but from my experience that means we win. Look at KAT's 62 point game last year. I could also see KAT picking up two quick fouls and sitting for most of the first half.

One: Why not say last year? It's progression and[b] last year's team[/b] was different than any he was on previously. The Wolves might have won the Dallas series if Ant had dominated Luka F'in Doncic, so maybe it's Ant's fault.

Two: sure, but we are hanging our identity hat on being a more defensive team, so, theoretically, he shouldn't get us for 70.

Sorry but what did last years team win? Oh your one of those fans that think making it to the WFC is winning Also, your right last year's team was a different team. It was clearly not KAT's team anymore and ANT took over. KAT needs someone else to finally make it further than it has in KAT's career. Don't say it's a team game cause great players always make the team better around them and KAT hasn't ever done that.

If you want to compare a match up of ANT and maybe the best player on the planet in Luke Doncic to KAT's matching up against an NBA nobody in PJ Washington. Then in this match up ANT still performed better in the series. Again if you truly think KAT is a Great Playoff player you just don't watch the games or are in denial.

[DaMplsKid]

Get lost with your disgusting comment. KAT has been a great player for us and he isn't a pussy you sicko. I'd like you to be alone with him and call him a pussy. See what happens.

I personal know KAT would do anything about it. He doesn't have that fight in him. Watch the Green attack on Rudy...... were was KAT? I've seen Kat in public he doesn't intermediate me at all. Just cause your tall doesn't mean anything.

Stop calling Pussy KAT a great player. You can call in a nice guy maybe even a great person or a great shooter (unless it counts in teh playoffs) But he isn't a "Great Player" the stats and record prove that.

Can you at least pretend to have some class and maturity, Internet tough guy? Thanks.

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Your right I am sorry. Now can KAT stop pretending to mature and a tough guy and actually become one?

[BlacJacMac]

DD is a backup guard. He's not starting. You don't trade a franchise future HOF player in his prime for a backup guard. He's nowhere near as good as Klay Thompson in his prime years. He won't be on the court for anywhere near the minutes KAT would be on the court.

Donte has started 190 of 354 career games, and has only had one season on a sub-.500 team. He is at worst a fringe starter.

He isn't starting *here*. And btw that's barely over half of the games he's played. He was already going to be a bench player on the Knicks which apparently upset him. So he comes here...where's going to be coming off the bench. He's not starting over Ant.

He is not anywhere close to the player KAT is.

Its too bad that bench points are worth less than starter points...

[BlacJacMac]

One thing that really surprises me is that not one person has mentioned that trading KAT might piss Ant off. If it does and leads to his early departure it was a HORRIBLE trade.

That doesn't happen. Its a fan created hysteria.

Remember all the people that said we can never trade D'Lo because KAT will ask out? Remember the people who were afraid of what losing PatBev would do to Ant?

Ant LOVED Ryan Saunders.

KAT and Ant are buddies. Ant is also super close with McDaniels and Naz (who this trade made MUCH more likely to retain).

[vtime]

Biggest issue last year was prolonged scoring droughts. Lineups with Randle, Ant, DDV, and Naz will score on anyone. The only 5th player I wouldn’t add to that lineup is Gobert.

[Note30]

I think the point you and shrink are missing about his contract is you cant pay anyone that much money who isn't a winner. Pussy Kat isn't a winner and doesn't make winning plays regardless of the money he makes. Ever contract no matter how big or small you want guys who get better, love to win and show up when it counts.

The money might of played a roll in this trade but I think the fact PJ F'in Washington out played Karl "Pussy Kat" Towns in the Western Conference Finals. Stop giving this guy a pass cause he was nice and wanted to stay here. His playoff/big game numbers are were the men sperate themselves from the boys and Towns plays like a boy in those games making a mans salary.

Get lost with your disgusting comment. KAT has been a great player for us and he isn't a pussy you sicko. I'd like you to be alone with him and call him a pussy. See what happens.

I personal know KAT would do anything about it. He doesn't have that fight in him. Watch the Green attack on Rudy...... were was KAT? I've seen Kat in public he doesn't intermediate me at all. Just cause your tall doesn't mean anything.

Stop calling Pussy KAT a great player. You can call in a nice guy maybe even a great person or a great shooter (unless it counts in teh playoffs) But he isn't a "Great Player" the stats and record prove that.

If you're gonna run your mouth back it up. If you think he's not intimidating or a great player you'd be able to ball up and take his spot on the roster right **** face?

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[minimus]

Biggest issue last year was prolonged scoring droughts. Lineups with Randle, Ant, DDV, and Naz will score on anyone. The only 5th player I wouldn’t add to that lineup is Gobert.

I remember when GSW used a "lineup of death": they started the game with Bogut who was a DPOY caliber player, but during the game they switched to small ball lineup with Green at C and crashed opponent with shooting and speed.

MIN can use same approach:

Start Gobert-Randle-McDaniels-Edwards-Conley and crash opponents with

Randle-Reid-TJ-Edwards-DDV

[DaMplsKid]

Get lost with your disgusting comment. KAT has been a great player for us and he isn't a pussy you sicko. I'd like you to be alone with him and call him a pussy. See what happens.

I personal know KAT would do anything about it. He doesn't have that fight in him. Watch the Green attack on Rudy...... were was KAT? I've seen Kat in public he doesn't intermediate me at all. Just cause your tall doesn't mean anything.

Stop calling Pussy KAT a great player. You can call in a nice guy maybe even a great person or a great shooter (unless it counts in teh playoffs) But he isn't a "Great Player" the stats and record prove that.

If you're gonna run your mouth back it up. If you think he's not intimidating or a great player you'd be able to ball up and take his spot on the roster right **** face?

LOL I will tell you right now if I was 7'0 and the self titled best shooting big man of all time. I would smoke KAT in a one on one game and be one of the most dominate big man of all time. KAT is a non shot blocking Brooke Lopez.

I am sorry you think differently. I am a KG fan and enjoyed his style of play/demeanor not KAT's. See KAT is like the Drake of the NBA where I like ANT the Kendrick of the NBA.

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Also, fighting a guy and playing basketball to very different things.

[Klomp]

DD is a backup guard. He's not starting. You don't trade a franchise future HOF player in his prime for a backup guard. He's nowhere near as good as Klay Thompson in his prime years. He won't be on the court for anywhere near the minutes KAT would be on the court.

Klay probably isn't the right comp for DiVincenzo.

How about this comp: He is younger, better, healthier and on a more team-friendly deal as Alex Caruso.

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[minimus]

DD is a backup guard. He's not starting. You don't trade a franchise future HOF player in his prime for a backup guard. He's nowhere near as good as Klay Thompson in his prime years. He won't be on the court for anywhere near the minutes KAT would be on the court.

Klay probably isn't the right comp for DiVincenzo.

How about this comp: He is younger, better, healthier and on a more team-friendly deal as Alex Caruso.

He is a younger KCP with better 3pt shot

[Klomp]

DD is a backup guard. He's not starting. You don't trade a franchise future HOF player in his prime for a backup guard. He's nowhere near as good as Klay Thompson in his prime years. He won't be on the court for anywhere near the minutes KAT would be on the court.

Klay probably isn't the right comp for DiVincenzo.

How about this comp: He is younger, better, healthier and on a more team-friendly deal as Alex Caruso.

He is a younger KCP with better 3pt shot

Also a good comp.

[Zonarosa]

Crazy that Taylor leaked their projection only to do the thing he projected they projected.

yet we’re still a second apron team. the lore/rodriguez proposal estimated getting down to $170 or something,

They saved 26 million this year with this move. There’s probably a more accurate figure but that’s what I’ve seen on a few different sites.

It is what it is. Taylor runs the team.

right. but it's a bit disingenuous to accuse taylor of doing what he said the other two were going to do when they're still 60 million over that proposal.

[thinktank]

yet we’re still a second apron team. the lore/rodriguez proposal estimated getting down to $170 or something,

They saved 26 million this year with this move. There’s probably a more accurate figure but that’s what I’ve seen on a few different sites.

It is what it is. Taylor runs the team.

right. but it's a bit disingenuous to accuse taylor of doing what he said the other two were going to do when they're still 60 million over that proposal.

Projection.

Sure. Payroll trending downward.

[KGdaBom]

I think the point you and shrink are missing about his contract is you cant pay anyone that much money who isn't a winner. Pussy Kat isn't a winner and doesn't make winning plays regardless of the money he makes. Ever contract no matter how big or small you want guys who get better, love to win and show up when it counts.

The money might of played a roll in this trade but I think the fact PJ F'in Washington out played Karl "Pussy Kat" Towns in the Western Conference Finals. Stop giving this guy a pass cause he was nice and wanted to stay here. His playoff/big game numbers are were the men sperate themselves from the boys and Towns plays like a boy in those games making a mans salary.

Get lost with your disgusting comment. KAT has been a great player for us and he isn't a pussy you sicko. I'd like you to be alone with him and call him a pussy. See what happens.

I personal know KAT would do anything about it. He doesn't have that fight in him. Watch the Green attack on Rudy...... were was KAT? I've seen Kat in public he doesn't intermediate me at all. Just cause your tall doesn't mean anything.

Stop calling Pussy KAT a great player. You can call in a nice guy maybe even a great person or a great shooter (unless it counts in teh playoffs) But he isn't a "Great Player" the stats and record prove that.

It takes a pussy to anonymously call a professional athlete that could kill you in a heartbeat a pussy. He probably wouldn't hurt you because he's mature enough not to.

[DaMplsKid]

DD is a backup guard. He's not starting. You don't trade a franchise future HOF player in his prime for a backup guard. He's nowhere near as good as Klay Thompson in his prime years. He won't be on the court for anywhere near the minutes KAT would be on the court.

Klay probably isn't the right comp for DiVincenzo.

How about this comp: He is younger, better, healthier and on a more team-friendly deal as Alex Caruso.

He is a younger KCP with better 3pt shot

I think his game mostly resembles a better defending and cheaper Tyler Hero.