2024 NFL Season

[thesack12]

Darnold looking good again. Shoulda kept him.

1) Last season you couldn't stand Darnold, repeatedly insinuated he sucked and Lance should have been ahead of him
2) Purdy is SUBSTANTIALLY cheaper than Darnold
3) Even if you want to play the ridiculous Darnold is better than Purdy card, you do realize that Darnold is on a 1 year contract so the possibility exists that SF could bring him back if they so choose to do so, right?

Its almost like you don't realize that Purdy has not been given an extension yet.

I actually think Darnold has better traditional physical traits which gives him a higher upside. I doubt he'd want to come back here after we let him leave.

Yes, yes we know.

When it comes to evaluating QB's, you only care about physical measureables.

SF didn't let Darnold leave, he was a free agent.

Darnold was a 2 time failure before he got to SF. Sam's career was in the crapper. SF and Kyle rehabilitated Darnold's confidence and his leaguewide image. Darnold signing a 1 year contract with SF was by design. It worked out just as he hoped it would, as it led to him getting another chance to be a starting QB.

[RIPskaterdude]

The Vikings are really good

[Jikkle]

Darnold went to my high school and from where I lived most of my life so I've always rooted for him.

Still the Vikings are pretty surprising and obviously Darnold is a big factor in that.

Vikings might've hit a great duo of coaches since O'Connell and Flores might be more on the bleeding edge of offense and defense right now.

[CrimsonCrew]

Certainly Darnold has more physical tools than Purdy. The dude has an awesome arm, he's big, strong. But there was always something missing with him - well, many things, probably. Has he discovered those things? Possibly, and if so, he could still have a great career.

It's worth mentioning that in addition to Shanahan, Darnold has been effusive in his praise of Purdy, saying that he - Darnold, the then six-year vet - learned a lot about how to approach the game from Purdy, who was in his second year. If you want to talk about unique characteristics, maybe that sort of poise and approach is something worth discussing. It seems to have been what set Brady apart.

[Pattersonca65]

1) Last season you couldn't stand Darnold, repeatedly insinuated he sucked and Lance should have been ahead of him
2) Purdy is SUBSTANTIALLY cheaper than Darnold
3) Even if you want to play the ridiculous Darnold is better than Purdy card, you do realize that Darnold is on a 1 year contract so the possibility exists that SF could bring him back if they so choose to do so, right?

Its almost like you don't realize that Purdy has not been given an extension yet.

I actually think Darnold has better traditional physical traits which gives him a higher upside. I doubt he'd want to come back here after we let him leave.

Yes, yes we know.

When it comes to evaluating QB's, you only care about physical measureables.

SF didn't let Darnold leave, he was a free agent.

Darnold was a 2 time failure before he got to SF. Sam's career was in the crapper. SF and Kyle rehabilitated Darnold's confidence and his leaguewide image. Darnold signing a 1 year contract with SF was by design. It worked out just as he hoped it would, as it led to him getting another chance to be a starting QB.

He loves these imaginary upsides that never pan out

[Jikkle]

Seattle lost which is good news for us though the Lions winning isn't exactly great but at least they have one loss.

Lions were their first real test and while it's only one game that wasn't a great defensive performance by any means and they were bad on against both the pass and rush.

The surprising thing was against the pass though as that's where their defense was supposed to be great at but Goff was 18/18 for 292 yards with countless big plays.

Seattle gets the Giants next week so they should be able to correct themselves and burn the film of this game.

[CrimsonCrew]

Seattle lost which is good news for us though the Lions winning isn't exactly great but at least they have one loss.

Lions were their first real test and while it's only one game that wasn't a great defensive performance by any means and they were bad on against both the pass and rush.

The surprising thing was against the pass though as that's where their defense was supposed to be great at but Goff was 18/18 for 292 yards with countless big plays.

Seattle gets the Giants next week so they should be able to correct themselves and burn the film of this game.

Hate the lions winning, but right now our focus has to be winning the division. Can't worry about the first seed until later in the year.

Perfect passer rating for the lions when you factor in St. Brown's TD pass to Goff. Not exactly a stellar defensive showing for the Hawks.

[arich35]

Wait, someone told me last week that the Seahawks defense was really good after their performances against the Broncos, Patriots, and Miami (without Tua).
They finally face a real offense and let up how many points?

[Big J]

Wait, someone told me last week that the Seahawks defense was really good after their performances against the Broncos, Patriots, and Miami (without Tua).
They finally face a real offense and let up how many points?

They were missing half of their starters on defense for this game you know.

[CrimsonCrew]

Niners brought back Jalen Graham, who had left for the Commanders' PS. Injury to Curtis Robinson opened the door for him. I was upset we lost him, so good to have him back. DFF and Campbell are a concern out there together, so hopefully Graham can get some playing time along with Winters.

[wco81]

Both these teams scored over 30 last year too.

Saw poor tackling, defenders running into each other.

Lions DBs played aggressively, holding and grabbing. They got flagged several times for PI and defensive holding.

Seattle had 9 penalties, Lions had 12. Defense was just bad, both teams gave up big runs, lot of YAC.

[Big J]

Both these teams scored over 30 last year too.

Saw poor tackling, defenders running into each other.

Lions DBs played aggressively, holding and grabbing. They got flagged several times for PI and defensive holding.

Seattle had 9 penalties, Lions had 12. Defense was just bad, both teams gave up big runs, lot of YAC.

Hawks were missing half their starters on defense.

[arich35]

Both these teams scored over 30 last year too.

Saw poor tackling, defenders running into each other.

Lions DBs played aggressively, holding and grabbing. They got flagged several times for PI and defensive holding.

Seattle had 9 penalties, Lions had 12. Defense was just bad, both teams gave up big runs, lot of YAC.

Hawks were missing half their starters on defense.

4 is not half of 11

[CrimsonCrew]

Both these teams scored over 30 last year too.

Saw poor tackling, defenders running into each other.

Lions DBs played aggressively, holding and grabbing. They got flagged several times for PI and defensive holding.

Seattle had 9 penalties, Lions had 12. Defense was just bad, both teams gave up big runs, lot of YAC.

Hawks were missing half their starters on defense.

4 is not half of 11

I thought it was 3.

[Big J]

Both these teams scored over 30 last year too.

Saw poor tackling, defenders running into each other.

Lions DBs played aggressively, holding and grabbing. They got flagged several times for PI and defensive holding.

Seattle had 9 penalties, Lions had 12. Defense was just bad, both teams gave up big runs, lot of YAC.

Hawks were missing half their starters on defense.

4 is not half of 11

They also lost Love halfway though the game.

[CrimsonCrew]

Hawks were missing half their starters on defense.

4 is not half of 11

They also lost Love halfway though the game.

Look, I think that Hawks' D could still be pretty good. And certainly injuries played a part this week. But they literally did not force a single incompletion. Jury is still very much out on that group. They beat up on the Broncos (28th in scoring, 27th in yards), the Pats (31st in scoring, 31st in yards), and the Dolphins without Tua (32nd in scoring, 26th in yards). You aren't going to see an easier stretch of opposing offenses, yet two of those teams scored 20 on the Hawks. It may take MacDonald a year or two to really get into the swing with this group.

[Big J]

4 is not half of 11

They also lost Love halfway though the game.

Look, I think that Hawks' D could still be pretty good. And certainly injuries played a part this week. But they literally did not force a single incompletion. Jury is still very much out on that group. They beat up on the Broncos (28th in scoring, 27th in yards), the Pats (31st in scoring, 31st in yards), and the Dolphins without Tua (32nd in scoring, 26th in yards). You aren't going to see an easier stretch of opposing offenses, yet two of those teams scored 20 on the Hawks. It may take MacDonald a year or two to really get into the swing with this group.

Yeah, well as a Niners fan they scare the hell out of me. Especially considering what McDonald did to Purdy last year. If we play their backups that’s a different story.

[CrimsonCrew]

They also lost Love halfway though the game.

Look, I think that Hawks' D could still be pretty good. And certainly injuries played a part this week. But they literally did not force a single incompletion. Jury is still very much out on that group. They beat up on the Broncos (28th in scoring, 27th in yards), the Pats (31st in scoring, 31st in yards), and the Dolphins without Tua (32nd in scoring, 26th in yards). You aren't going to see an easier stretch of opposing offenses, yet two of those teams scored 20 on the Hawks. It may take MacDonald a year or two to really get into the swing with this group.

Yeah, well as a Niners fan they scare the hell out of me. Especially considering what McDonald did to Purdy last year. If we play their backups that’s a different story.

I'm certainly not suggesting we take them lightly. And I think MacDonald has the makings of a very good HC. But I don't see any clear signs they're there yet.

The only team they shut down was the Dolphins in their first game without Tua. The other three teams they played each scored significantly more than their season averages. They allowed the Pats to score 20 (Pats are averaging 11.3 PPG; 8.3 PPG against teams other than the Hawks), the Broncos to score 20 (averaging 15.5; 14 against other teams), and the Lions to score 42 (averaging 26; 20.7 against other teams).

[arich35]

Look, I think that Hawks' D could still be pretty good. And certainly injuries played a part this week. But they literally did not force a single incompletion. Jury is still very much out on that group. They beat up on the Broncos (28th in scoring, 27th in yards), the Pats (31st in scoring, 31st in yards), and the Dolphins without Tua (32nd in scoring, 26th in yards). You aren't going to see an easier stretch of opposing offenses, yet two of those teams scored 20 on the Hawks. It may take MacDonald a year or two to really get into the swing with this group.

Yeah, well as a Niners fan they scare the hell out of me. Especially considering what McDonald did to Purdy last year. If we play their backups that’s a different story.

I'm certainly not suggesting we take them lightly. And I think MacDonald has the makings of a very good HC. But I don't see any clear signs they're there yet.

The only team they shut down was the Dolphins in their first game without Tua. The other three teams they played each scored significantly more than their season averages. They allowed the Pats to score 20 (Pats are averaging 11.3 PPG; 8.3 PPG against teams other than the Hawks), the Broncos to score 20 (averaging 15.5; 14 against other teams), and the Lions to score 42 (averaging 26; 20.7 against other teams).

Not to mention the Dolphins had to make the longest road trip, nearly 7 hour flight

[Big J]

Darnold is now 5-0...