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BKN gets Konchar, Jackson, KJ Martin, and 26 OKC 1st
MEM gets Finney-Smith and McCain
PHI gets Kennard and Aldama
MEM gets Finney-Smith and McCain
PHI gets Kennard and Aldama
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the_process wrote:BKN gets Konchar, Jackson, KJ Martin, and 26 OKC 1st
MEM gets Finney-Smith and McCain
PHI gets Kennard and Aldama
Feel likes like a decent sized overpay on our end given the pieces involved. Honestly, you could argue McCain is the highest value piece here (I don't imagine any of those guys would have netted a pick in the teens this summer).
It also feels like it's 2 different potential deals that are needlessly bashed into one.
Individually, KJ/McCain for Aldama/Kennard seems somewhat interesting with Memphis having long-term salary concerns. I don't see the need for DFS on a team that has that type of quality depth at forward.
DFS for KJ/McCain also makes some sense on both ends.
Door #3 might be something even simpler like the 26 and Reggie Jackson (or substitute some other filler deal) for Aldama.
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youngcrev wrote:the_process wrote:BKN gets Konchar, Jackson, KJ Martin, and 26 OKC 1st
MEM gets Finney-Smith and McCain
PHI gets Kennard and Aldama
Feel likes like a decent sized overpay on our end given the pieces involved. Honestly, you could argue McCain is the highest value piece here (I don't imagine any of those guys would have netted a pick in the teens this summer).
It also feels like it's 2 different potential deals that are needlessly bashed into one.
Individually, KJ/McCain for Aldama/Kennard seems somewhat interesting with Memphis having long-term salary concerns. I don't see the need for DFS on a team that has that type of quality depth at forward.
DFS for KJ/McCain also makes some sense on both ends.
Door #3 might be something even simpler like the 26 and Reggie Jackson (or substitute some other filler deal) for Aldama.
Memphis doesn't want to trade Aldama for a pick. They want an upgrade. Also they probably aren't going in the tax and they are currently only about 800k below it. Primary name mentioned was DFS, although a little talk of going in on Kuzma and just paying a little bit of tax this year.
Sixers must send out more money in a trade than they take back or else they are hard capped at the 1st apron, which is completely untenable as they are already over it.
Also I do not value McCain very highly, but am hoping other teams might see some allure.
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the_process wrote:youngcrev wrote:the_process wrote:BKN gets Konchar, Jackson, KJ Martin, and 26 OKC 1st
MEM gets Finney-Smith and McCain
PHI gets Kennard and Aldama
Feel likes like a decent sized overpay on our end given the pieces involved. Honestly, you could argue McCain is the highest value piece here (I don't imagine any of those guys would have netted a pick in the teens this summer).
It also feels like it's 2 different potential deals that are needlessly bashed into one.
Individually, KJ/McCain for Aldama/Kennard seems somewhat interesting with Memphis having long-term salary concerns. I don't see the need for DFS on a team that has that type of quality depth at forward.
DFS for KJ/McCain also makes some sense on both ends.
Door #3 might be something even simpler like the 26 and Reggie Jackson (or substitute some other filler deal) for Aldama.
Memphis doesn't want to trade Aldama for a pick. They want an upgrade. Also they probably aren't going in the tax and they are currently only about 800k below it. Primary name mentioned was DFS, although a little talk of going in on Kuzma and just paying a little bit of tax this year.
Sixers must send out more money in a trade than they take back or else they are hard capped at the 1st apron, which is completely untenable as they are already over it.
Also I do not value McCain very highly, but am hoping other teams might see some allure.
Memphis fans don't want to trade him for a pick on the trade board. Realistically, he's their 10th man, and is set to become a RFA this summer on a team that likely can't afford to keep him or take on any decent sized future salary (unless they move Clarke also). He's a prime trade candidate for this exact reason.
If they're not looking for such a deal, he's just probably not getting traded. He's a fairly unproven guy with 1 cheap year left that isn't likely to have much of a role to showcase his skills. He's interesting enough to take a flier on, not somebody you move a ton of actual value for.
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youngcrev wrote:the_process wrote:youngcrev wrote:
Feel likes like a decent sized overpay on our end given the pieces involved. Honestly, you could argue McCain is the highest value piece here (I don't imagine any of those guys would have netted a pick in the teens this summer).
It also feels like it's 2 different potential deals that are needlessly bashed into one.
Individually, KJ/McCain for Aldama/Kennard seems somewhat interesting with Memphis having long-term salary concerns. I don't see the need for DFS on a team that has that type of quality depth at forward.
DFS for KJ/McCain also makes some sense on both ends.
Door #3 might be something even simpler like the 26 and Reggie Jackson (or substitute some other filler deal) for Aldama.
Memphis doesn't want to trade Aldama for a pick. They want an upgrade. Also they probably aren't going in the tax and they are currently only about 800k below it. Primary name mentioned was DFS, although a little talk of going in on Kuzma and just paying a little bit of tax this year.
Sixers must send out more money in a trade than they take back or else they are hard capped at the 1st apron, which is completely untenable as they are already over it.
Also I do not value McCain very highly, but am hoping other teams might see some allure.
Memphis fans don't want to trade him for a pick on the trade board. Realistically, he's their 10th man, and is set to become a RFA this summer on a team that likely can't afford to keep him or take on any decent sized future salary (unless they move Clarke also). He's a prime trade candidate for this exact reason.
If they're not looking for such a deal, he's just probably not getting traded. He's a fairly unproven guy with 1 cheap year left that isn't likely to have much of a role to showcase his skills. He's interesting enough to take a flier on, not somebody you move a ton of actual value for.
That's fair. I'm just going by what info I have.
As far as a "ton of actual value"... I don't think McCain, KJ, Reggie Jackson, and the 26 OKC 1st fit that bill.
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I think after extions Curry can be traded in January if he requests a trade, ay?
Would you guys do Maxey, Drummond, McCain for Curry?
KJ Martin, picks for DiVincenzo, Villanova guy, is also possible in January
Would you guys do Maxey, Drummond, McCain for Curry?
KJ Martin, picks for DiVincenzo, Villanova guy, is also possible in January
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Dan Verze wrote:I think after extions Curry can be traded in January if he requests a trade, ay?
Would you guys do Maxey, Drummond, McCain for Curry?
KJ Martin, picks for DiVincenzo, Villanova guy, is also possible in January
I Would not trade Maxey for Curry straight up
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Maxey and Joel need to be Sixers for life.
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he hDan Verze wrote:I think after extions Curry can be traded in January if he requests a trade, ay?
Would you guys do Maxey, Drummond, McCain for Curry?
KJ Martin, picks for DiVincenzo, Villanova guy, is also possible in January
The ex factor in this trade is not Curry or Maxey but Embiid. Can he be healthy in the playoffs. You could win a championship with Curry or Maxey next year. But without Embiid the 76ers are not winning anything. So with that being said I can't make the deal because even with Curry I feel Boston is coming out of the East this season. And next season with a healthy Maxey and Joel the 76ers can make it to the NBA finals. But if that deal was presented I would be very tempted.
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I know he is a old, but Curry > Maxey, right? Plus, teams defend Curry differently, it would open up so much more space for 76ers players. Short window, but maybe worth it.
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Dan Verze wrote:I know he is a old, but Curry > Maxey, right? Plus, teams defend Curry differently, it would open up so much more space for 76ers players. Short window, but maybe worth it.
Yes, but it's not clear for how long. I'm mostly in favor of all-in moves at this point, but that might be pushing it too far.
Also, Maxey did the team a solid waiting for his contract and seems to be a fantastic teammate. It's not a good look to trade him now if he wants to be here. An all-timer like Curry being the return could soften that a bit though.
Finally, Curry makes $20M more than Maxey, meaning there's an opportunity cost to the move since the Sixers can't take back extra salary in trades. They could likely make it work if they really wanted to, but then they wouldn't be able to use those salaries for other upgrades. So it might not even be a short-term benefit, assuming they could find a worthwhile trade for KJM + assets.
All that said, Curry is special enough that if he asks out, you have to consider your options. Especially if Maxey stagnates or even regresses a bit this season (not saying it's likely). Whereas if he makes meaningful improvements again, he becomes essentially untouchable IMO.
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Trading a kid like Maxey is straight insanity and is something only a losing organization would even entertain.
A home grown all star who works his ass off and has improved every season, and who wants to be a star here. Yeah, quick, let's see what we can get for him.
A home grown all star who works his ass off and has improved every season, and who wants to be a star here. Yeah, quick, let's see what we can get for him.
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If there were multiple 1st-round picks coming back with Curry, I'd consider it. Otherwise, hell no.
2025-2026 Philadelphia 76ers:
Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
Bona/Watford/Barlow
Embiid/Drummond/Broome
Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
Bona/Watford/Barlow
Embiid/Drummond/Broome
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Herb Jones is my dream pre-deadline add that is at least somewhat realistic.
KmartJr, McCain, and whatever 1st they want other than the LAC unprotected ‘28 1st.
KmartJr, McCain, and whatever 1st they want other than the LAC unprotected ‘28 1st.
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If Kuminga wants a max extension, he's off my list of targets. I'm not maxing that guy out.
Trey Murphy III please and thank you.
You can likely re-sign him for something like 4-80. That's an easy yes, even if you're somewhat projecting the skill set is absolutely there.
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You can likely re-sign him for something like 4-80. That's an easy yes, even if you're somewhat projecting the skill set is absolutely there.
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the_process wrote:If Kuminga wants a max extension, he's off my list of targets. I'm not maxing that guy out.
Trey Murphy III please and thank you.
You can likely re-sign him for something like 4-80. That's an easy yes, even if you're somewhat projecting the skill set is absolutely there.
Why would you assume that?
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Stanford wrote:the_process wrote:If Kuminga wants a max extension, he's off my list of targets. I'm not maxing that guy out.
Trey Murphy III please and thank you.
You can likely re-sign him for something like 4-80. That's an easy yes, even if you're somewhat projecting the skill set is absolutely there.
Why would you assume that?
Yeah, this article mentions a range of 4/95 to 5/135. Probably bump those up a bit to account for the raised cap. Obviously depends on his performance this year too, so there could be more variance than that.
4/100 would still be workable. You might end up a 2nd apron team for 2025-26, but you could easily drop back to a 1st apron team after that, given that the cap is going to go up faster than existing contracts.
Retaining Oubre could be an issue since he can opt out after this year, but if he's still providing the team good value, they can give him a contract bump in line with the most he'd make on the open market IMO. Though it'd probably be more likely that they let him walk if he opts out, sign someone to the tax MLE, and stay just under the 2nd apron.
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NearingZero wrote:Stanford wrote:the_process wrote:If Kuminga wants a max extension, he's off my list of targets. I'm not maxing that guy out.
Trey Murphy III please and thank you.
You can likely re-sign him for something like 4-80. That's an easy yes, even if you're somewhat projecting the skill set is absolutely there.
Why would you assume that?
Yeah, this article mentions a range of 4/95 to 5/135. Probably bump those up a bit to account for the raised cap. Obviously depends on his performance this year too, so there could be more variance than that.
4/100 would still be workable. You might end up a 2nd apron team for 2025-26, but you could easily drop back to a 1st apron team after that, given that the cap is going to go up faster than existing contracts.
Retaining Oubre could be an issue since he can opt out after this year, but if he's still providing the team good value, they can give him a contract bump in line with the most he'd make on the open market IMO. Though it'd probably be more likely that they let him walk if he opts out, sign of someone to the tax MLE, and stay just under the 2nd apron.
Could live with 4-100.
NOP gets Clarkson, Collins, and 26 OKC 1st
PHI gets Murphy III
UTA gets KJM, McCollum, and 27 MIL 2nd
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I don't think we're getting Murphy for the 30th pick in the 2026 draft. Be prepared to hand over those Clippers picks.
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Well, that' pretty much takes Murphy off the market. 4-112 is a lot, but I suppose that's normal for a 2nd contract. Overpay on potential.
IMO this also signals the price went down on acquiring Ingram. Not that the Sixers are or should be interested, just speaking in general.
IMO this also signals the price went down on acquiring Ingram. Not that the Sixers are or should be interested, just speaking in general.