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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#321 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Wed Oct 2, 2024 2:10 am

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StlHawksFan wrote:Knicks remaining draft holdings over the next 7 seasons:
Conditional Washington 1st*
2025 Best 2nd of BOS or MEM
2026 Knicks 1st, Worst 2nd of DET, ORL, or MIL
2027 Knicks 2nd, second and third most favorable of OKC, HOU, IND, or MIA 2nds
2028 Worst 1st of NYK or BKN, BOS 2nd, Worst 2nd of IND or PHX
2029 no picks
2030 Knicks 1st
2031 no picks

Tradable assets: 2 first round pick swaps, the Washington pick, and 7 2nd rounders.

*Notes on the Washington pick:
2025 first round draft pick from Washington
Washington's 1st round pick to New York protected for selections 1-10 in 2025 and 1-8 in 2026; if Washington has not conveyed a 1st round pick to New York by 2026, then Washington will instead convey its 2026 2nd round pick and 2027 2nd round pick to New York (via Houston to Oklahoma City) [Houston-Washington, 12/2/2020; Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/30/2021; New York-Oklahoma City, 6/23/2022]


I’m excited about this team but this draft picks situation isn’t great. The 2nd rd picks are fine - 7 tradable over 7 years, plus the Was pick is likely 2 2nds and each year we pick up another tradable 2nd.

But we essentially have no first to trade until the 2026 draft.

I guess in theory if we need to pivot we can turn Bridges or Anunoby into picks.


We have a 4 year or so window with this team. I agree pick situation isn't ideal, hopefully they can hit on a second round pick on one of the drafts.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#322 » by NiceLikeChrist » Wed Oct 2, 2024 2:53 am

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NiceLikeChrist wrote:trey murphy/herb jones rumors are just hilarious. I think the pels have some semblance of a brain in their skulls. don't see anything happening there

Are you talking about trading with the knicks or their hopes of making it to the WCF without a defensive center?

I think they'd rather not make the second round than trade one of their two best young players on great contracts to be bounced in the first or second round anyway
NiceLikeChrist wrote:We are going to deeply regret this. We traded away the best player in the trade and still had to give up a great role player AND a pick?

so many people are going to eat their words about randle
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#323 » by Nostrand Ave » Wed Oct 2, 2024 4:21 am

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If it is not KnicksfanTV I'm not following. Most of these other Knicks fan channels are just bait for click.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#324 » by Jalen Bluntson » Wed Oct 2, 2024 4:25 am

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RHODEY wrote:


If it is not KnicksfanTV I'm not following. Most of these other Knicks fan channels are just bait for click.


That's actually Rhodey in the video. :lol: that dude sucks!!
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Post#325 » by RHODEY » Wed Oct 2, 2024 4:32 am

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Nostrand Ave wrote:
RHODEY wrote:


If it is not KnicksfanTV I'm not following. Most of these other Knicks fan channels are just bait for click.


That's actually Rhodey in the video. :lol: that dude sucks!!

AND SO MUCH MORE!!! :D :D :D
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Post#326 » by RHODEY » Wed Oct 2, 2024 4:33 am

B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:At the moment you have to get past Denver and Boston. So you have to have people to deal with Jokic and KP. You can't get away with 6'9" Precious or whatever. That just doesn't work for either (agreed, different propositions). You need at least someone in the Mitch-zone. People so underestimate Mitch it's unreal.

Denver ain't that team anymore.No depth and no defense. Boston and OKC are our only peers.

I think Jokic can find a way. But ok, OKC .. Who guards Chet?

Who guards KAT?
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Post#327 » by Jalen Bluntson » Wed Oct 2, 2024 5:02 am

RHODEY wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Nostrand Ave wrote:
If it is not KnicksfanTV I'm not following. Most of these other Knicks fan channels are just bait for click.


That's actually Rhodey in the video. :lol: that dude sucks!!

AND SO MUCH MORE!!! :D :D :D


Now let's....get started. :lol: I can't. :rofl:
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#328 » by Jalen Bluntson » Wed Oct 2, 2024 5:07 am

RHODEY wrote:
B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
RHODEY wrote:Denver ain't that team anymore.No depth and no defense. Boston and OKC are our only peers.

I think Jokic can find a way. But ok, OKC .. Who guards Chet?

Who guards KAT?


Who guards Brunson? No one in the league.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#329 » by Davis18 » Wed Oct 2, 2024 5:23 am

If we can get Herb Jones or Trey Murphy for Mitch then roster will be set.
Just need couple of this years draftees to become rotation players.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#330 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Oct 2, 2024 10:44 am

Davis18 wrote:If we can get Herb Jones or Trey Murphy for Mitch then roster will be set.
Just need couple of this years draftees to become rotation players.


Speaking of which, is this the current roster? Plus I'll make a projection or two.


Brunson/Payne/Kolek
Bridges/Deuce/Shamet (most likely vet min guy to stick, unless someone else gets cut and Knicks grab)
OG/Hart/Dadiet
KAT/
Precious/Mitch (Mitch starts when healthy)/Sims/

13 players.

Am I missing some obvious player here?

Since the only thing left they can afford is a rookie scale contract, I'd suppose that either McCullars or Haukporti get converted from 2 way to rookie scale.

I'd guess it's McCullar, though they have plenty of wings. Or it's Haukporti if the Knicks trade Sims, for whatever reason. Or in the unlikely case they trade Mitch.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#331 » by StlHawksFan » Wed Oct 2, 2024 12:12 pm

It might actually be Jacob Toppin who gets the 14th slot. We need a 3rd string 4.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#332 » by Ray Williams » Wed Oct 2, 2024 12:19 pm

RHODEY wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Nostrand Ave wrote:
If it is not KnicksfanTV I'm not following. Most of these other Knicks fan channels are just bait for click.


That's actually Rhodey in the video. :lol: that dude sucks!!

AND SO MUCH MORE!!! :D :D :D

That phony announcer voice makes him unwatchable.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#333 » by StlHawksFan » Wed Oct 2, 2024 12:38 pm

Lakers offered Christian Wood and Gabe Vincent for Mitch. I'm sure Rose hasn't laughed that hard in years.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#334 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Oct 2, 2024 1:40 pm

Time to trade picks into the 2030s and 2040s to secure Kessler and Tre Murphy

Got to go all the way in
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Post#335 » by Ray Williams » Wed Oct 2, 2024 2:18 pm

At least now we can retire Bernard’s number.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#336 » by RHODEY » Wed Oct 2, 2024 2:39 pm

Ray Williams wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
That's actually Rhodey in the video. :lol: that dude sucks!!

AND SO MUCH MORE!!! :D :D :D

That phony announcer voice makes him unwatchable.

So I hear :D
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#337 » by RHODEY » Wed Oct 2, 2024 3:04 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Time to trade picks into the 2030s and 2040s to secure Kessler and Tre Murphy

Got to go all the way in

Right go all the way in so we can package Kessler , Murphy, and KAT for Giannis next season. :o
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#338 » by spree2kawhi » Wed Oct 2, 2024 3:05 pm

RHODEY wrote:
B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
RHODEY wrote:Denver ain't that team anymore.No depth and no defense. Boston and OKC are our only peers.

I think Jokic can find a way. But ok, OKC .. Who guards Chet?

Who guards KAT?

Yeah man, exactly this.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#339 » by KnixinSix » Wed Oct 2, 2024 3:27 pm

VirginiaKnickFan wrote:
R-DAWG wrote:
StlHawksFan wrote:Knicks remaining draft holdings over the next 7 seasons:
Conditional Washington 1st*
2025 Best 2nd of BOS or MEM
2026 Knicks 1st, Worst 2nd of DET, ORL, or MIL
2027 Knicks 2nd, second and third most favorable of OKC, HOU, IND, or MIA 2nds
2028 Worst 1st of NYK or BKN, BOS 2nd, Worst 2nd of IND or PHX
2029 no picks
2030 Knicks 1st
2031 no picks

Tradable assets: 2 first round pick swaps, the Washington pick, and 7 2nd rounders.

*Notes on the Washington pick:
2025 first round draft pick from Washington
Washington's 1st round pick to New York protected for selections 1-10 in 2025 and 1-8 in 2026; if Washington has not conveyed a 1st round pick to New York by 2026, then Washington will instead convey its 2026 2nd round pick and 2027 2nd round pick to New York (via Houston to Oklahoma City) [Houston-Washington, 12/2/2020; Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/30/2021; New York-Oklahoma City, 6/23/2022]


I’m excited about this team but this draft picks situation isn’t great. The 2nd rd picks are fine - 7 tradable over 7 years, plus the Was pick is likely 2 2nds and each year we pick up another tradable 2nd.

But we essentially have no first to trade until the 2026 draft.

I guess in theory if we need to pivot we can turn Bridges or Anunoby into picks.


We have a 4 year or so window with this team. I agree pick situation isn't ideal, hopefully they can hit on a second round pick on one of the drafts.


Tradable assets: 2 first round pick swaps, the Washington pick, and 7 2nd rounders.

Main trade pieces: Mitch, Dadiet, Wash Pick, 1 2nd rounder for Trey Murphy while using a 3rd team under the salary cap like we did the KAT trade to make it work.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#340 » by KnixinSix » Wed Oct 2, 2024 3:50 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Davis18 wrote:If we can get Herb Jones or Trey Murphy for Mitch then roster will be set.
Just need couple of this years draftees to become rotation players.


Speaking of which, is this the current roster? Plus I'll make a projection or two.


Brunson/Payne/Kolek
Bridges/Deuce/Shamet (most likely vet min guy to stick, unless someone else gets cut and Knicks grab)
OG/Hart/Dadiet
KAT/
Precious/Mitch (Mitch starts when healthy)/Sims/

13 players.

Am I missing some obvious player here?

Since the only thing left they can afford is a rookie scale contract, I'd suppose that either McCullars or Haukporti get converted from 2 way to rookie scale.

I'd guess it's McCullar, though they have plenty of wings. Or it's Haukporti if the Knicks trade Sims, for whatever reason. Or in the unlikely case they trade Mitch.


Yes bro. You missing TREY.....

Some are saying Nick is not a possibility.....Well here it is and so much more TODAY! OK then..... let's get started!

3 Team Trade Proposal: Knicks, Charlotte and Pelicans-UPDATED

Note: Under new CBA 3 team deals allow teams UNDER 1st Apron to take back more money in a deal up to 125%, teams over must take LESS money back in a deal up to 110% less.


Pels out:
Trey Murphy 5.2
Jordan Hawkins 4.5
Elfrid Payton 3
Jalen Crutcher 1.8
Theis 2.8
Total out: 17.3M

Knicks out:
Mitch 14.3
Pacome Dadiet 1.8
FRP (Washington)
5- 2nd round picks
Total out:16.1M

Charlotte out:
Cody Martin 8.1M
Total out:8.1M

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Knicks in:
Trey Murphy 5.2
Cody Martin 8.1
Theis 2.8
Total in:16.1M
*OVER 1st apron: cannot take in more salary than sent out- 110% rule- requirement satisfied

Pels in:
Mitch 14.3
Pacome Dadiet 1.8
NYK FRP (Washington)
3- 2nd round picks
Total in:16.1M
*OVER 1st apron cannot take in more salary than sent out- 110% rule- requirement satisfied

Charlotte in:
Jordan Hawkins 4.5
Elfrid Payton 3
Crutcher 1.8
2- 2nd round picks
Total in:9.3M
*UNDER 1st apron can take in more salary than sent out- 125% rule-requirement satisfied
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