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Re: KAT To The Knicks Part 2 

Post#2041 » by DOT » Thu Oct 3, 2024 4:36 pm

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I get the sense he doesn't _hold_ the ball too long. Is that accurate?


Yes.

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53.2 touches per game, 1.9 time seconds average possession


Replacing

Randle
72.5 touches per game, 3.8 seconds average possession


That's helpful. Quick decisions. Zip zip zip.

I don't know where 3.8 seconds is coming from

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/touches?CF=TEAM_ABBREVIATION*E*nyk&Season=2023-24&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&dir=D&sort=AVG_SEC_PER_TOUCH

I see 3.2 seconds. Which is still a lot, but it's close enough to Mikal (2.9 seconds per touch) and it's not that long.
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Re: KAT To The Knicks Part 2 

Post#2042 » by Knick4Real » Thu Oct 3, 2024 4:37 pm

NiceLikeChrist wrote:Has KAT still not said a word about being a Knick? Any press or media? A tweet?


I heard this morning he's supposed to speak to the press today.
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Re: KAT To The Knicks Part 2 

Post#2043 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Oct 3, 2024 4:38 pm

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DOT wrote:Honestly, I don't get why y'all keep going at it. It's just repetitive at this point

The foe list exists for a reason.

What I don't get is why a poster who literally only exists here to antagonize, troll, and sh*t stir and adds no actual positive value to the board is still allowed to keep doing the same things over and over. I feel like back in the day mods would not allow this sort of thing to continue over and over without doing anything at all about it.

Stop tryna back seat moderate. You should be glad that the mods are laid back now cause you pretty much are guilty of everything you said in that post too. Did it for 5 years straight. But you wanna play victim now lmao. This is what sham was talking about. Y’all weird for that.
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Re: KAT To The Knicks Part 2 

Post#2044 » by Riot Randolph » Thu Oct 3, 2024 4:39 pm

Jeeze So much sexual tension in this board …
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Post#2045 » by RHODEY » Thu Oct 3, 2024 4:39 pm

Starksfor3 wrote:Any of you buttholes have actual useful information, like when we're getting a press conference for KAT?

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Re: KAT To The Knicks Part 2 

Post#2046 » by xBulletproof » Thu Oct 3, 2024 4:40 pm

Context wrote:A Pacer fan from the general board:
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xBulletproof wrote:What a ****ing legend.

The Knicks got both of the wings I was hoping for the Pacers to get 1 of. I love their entire roster play style wise and all. Then their star does this.

I'm a closet Knicks fan. I may never say that again. :lol: But it'll probably be true for a year or two at least.


This was my post from a couple months ago, when Brunson got his extension. It's even more true now. I haven't read a thing here, but KAT makes them so much better. He's going to clear the paint for Brunson to be better, ugh. Surrounded by tough, defensive minded guys. He will be the easy #2 offensive threat when Brunson is out, and is very efficient at it. Knicks in 4.

Some of ya'll need to get on board...


I still haven't read anything in the thread? Are people knocking this deal? :lol:

Knicks had super conjested paint issues, KAT will solve that, and we saw what Brunson did with less space. Plus in the Pacers series, it was clear the Knicks needed a #2 scorer. Anytime Brunson was out, it was painful. KAT is better for that than Randle. Assuming health, which can be an issue for any team, this puts the Knicks in the tier with Boston to me. In the East it's Boston/Knicks and then everyone else.

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Re: KAT To The Knicks Part 2 

Post#2047 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Thu Oct 3, 2024 4:41 pm

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Re: KAT To The Knicks Part 2 

Post#2048 » by RHODEY » Thu Oct 3, 2024 4:42 pm

BigShot Bojan wrote:Jeeze So much sexual tension in this board …

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Re: KAT To The Knicks Part 2 

Post#2049 » by KnixinSix » Thu Oct 3, 2024 4:43 pm

DOT wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Yes.

KAT
53.2 touches per game, 1.9 time seconds average possession


Replacing

Randle
72.5 touches per game, 3.8 seconds average possession


That's helpful. Quick decisions. Zip zip zip.

I don't know where 3.8 seconds is coming from

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/touches?CF=TEAM_ABBREVIATION*E*nyk&Season=2023-24&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&dir=D&sort=AVG_SEC_PER_TOUCH

I see 3.2 seconds. Which is still a lot, but it's close enough to Mikal (2.9 seconds per touch) and it's not that long.



That's an excellent metric....... which reveals KAT will score in the flow of the game and find the open man vs Randle who has a tendency to tunnel vision on his own scoring and ball stop
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Re: KAT To The Knicks Part 2 

Post#2050 » by HerSports85 » Thu Oct 3, 2024 4:43 pm

Starksfor3 wrote:Any of you buttholes have actual useful information, like when we're getting a press conference for KAT?


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Re: KAT To The Knicks Part 2 

Post#2051 » by Im Coming Home » Thu Oct 3, 2024 4:44 pm

jvsimonetti0514 wrote:Just shut the website down

I think that's the goal of one, troll so hard no one wants to use this dated website anymore and go enjoy other Knick fan places instead where there isn't this cloud of negativity and trolling.
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Re: KAT To The Knicks Part 2 

Post#2052 » by Reign23 » Thu Oct 3, 2024 4:45 pm

Im Coming Home wrote:
DOT wrote:Honestly, I don't get why y'all keep going at it. It's just repetitive at this point

The foe list exists for a reason.

What I don't get is why a poster who literally only exists here to antagonize, troll, and sh*t stir and adds no actual positive value to the board is still allowed to keep doing the same things over and over. I feel like back in the day mods would not allow this sort of thing to continue over and over without doing anything at all about it.

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Re: KAT To The Knicks Part 2 

Post#2053 » by E-Balla » Thu Oct 3, 2024 4:45 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
SelbyCobra wrote:
E-Balla wrote:How TF is Judge just as big as him? What in the ****?


I mean, KAT is leaning down towards him, but yeah, Judge is an objectively massive human, with no qualifiers. At 6'7", 280+ he's different proportions than just about any other athlete class on the planet.

Gronk was 6'6", 265 and known as one of the most physically imposing athletes on a professional FOOTBALL field, and Judge is bigger than him.

He's also the same height as known physical specimen, and Judge doppelganger, Aaron Gordon, but Judge outweighs him by nearly FIFTY (50!) lbs.

He's truly a giant.




Yeah, it's because KAT's leaning over, here he is with Wiggins and LaVine. They were 6'5.5" in shoes for LaVine and 6'8" in shoes for Wiggins


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KAT is slightly taller than AD, and maybe the same height as KD, he's shorter than Embiid and Mitch.

Oh we know KAT is big, Judge gotta be over 6'7 though.
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Re: KAT To The Knicks Part 2 

Post#2054 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Oct 3, 2024 4:47 pm

Im Coming Home wrote:
jvsimonetti0514 wrote:Just shut the website down

I think that's the goal of one, troll so hard no one wants to use this dated website anymore and go enjoy other Knick fan places instead where there isn't this cloud of negativity and trolling.

Bro is mad we pulled out pages of receipts of you trolling non stop and caught you pleading for accepting on the Indiana board lmao. You should go back there.
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Re: KAT To The Knicks Part 2 

Post#2055 » by Iron Mantis » Thu Oct 3, 2024 4:49 pm

Randle gone yet?

Can his cultists follow him out the door so we Knicks fans can have peace on our board again?

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I can't wait to see how the team looks and to what extent it's identity has changed on both ends.

Last season the Knicks were dead last in pace, next to last in assist ratio, and on the bottom half of the league in field goal percentage but they always got a ton of offensive rebounds.

I'm hoping the ball moves more freely and the Knicks are more efficient thus eliminating the need to rely on offensive rebounds as your main offense.

Celtics were at the top of the league in all things 3-point related and we were middle of the pack. I think we have the personnel now to make a substantial jump in how effective we are with the three ball as a team. Why can't we be a top 3 offensive team?

I think our wing defense improves dramatically as well with Mikal.

On paper, this is undoubtedly a championship caliber team.
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Re: KAT To The Knicks Part 2 

Post#2056 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Oct 3, 2024 4:51 pm

Capn'O wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
I get the sense he doesn't _hold_ the ball too long. Is that accurate?


Yes.

KAT
53.2 touches per game, 1.9 time seconds average possession


Replacing

Randle
72.5 touches per game, 3.8 seconds average possession


That's helpful. Quick decisions. Zip zip zip.




Yeah, he has only had 1 season in his career where he touched the ball more than 70 times in a season, was 73.3 which was a career high. Randle has averaged 74.2 with us in his 5 years and had a season where he had an obscene 83.6 touches per game. Even with Jalen he never really took his foot off the gas, last year he was at 72.5 and an outrageous 48.5 times in the frontcourt, to put that in perspective he had the ball more in the front court than Giannis, Tatum, KD and AD. That's more than 3 first options, and more than a 2nd option who is an interior player :lol:


If KAT gets the ball as much as Randle did he'll averaged around 27ppg on much higher efficiency, the year he averaged 26.5ppg and 4.4apg he only touched the ball 69.5 times per game and only 2.0 secs per possession. He is an omega class offensive player compared to the ones we're losing.
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Re: KAT To The Knicks Part 2 

Post#2057 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Oct 3, 2024 4:54 pm

E-Balla wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
SelbyCobra wrote:
I mean, KAT is leaning down towards him, but yeah, Judge is an objectively massive human, with no qualifiers. At 6'7", 280+ he's different proportions than just about any other athlete class on the planet.

Gronk was 6'6", 265 and known as one of the most physically imposing athletes on a professional FOOTBALL field, and Judge is bigger than him.

He's also the same height as known physical specimen, and Judge doppelganger, Aaron Gordon, but Judge outweighs him by nearly FIFTY (50!) lbs.

He's truly a giant.




Yeah, it's because KAT's leaning over, here he is with Wiggins and LaVine. They were 6'5.5" in shoes for LaVine and 6'8" in shoes for Wiggins


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KAT is slightly taller than AD, and maybe the same height as KD, he's shorter than Embiid and Mitch.

Oh we know KAT is big, Judge gotta be over 6'7 though.



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Re: KAT To The Knicks Part 2 

Post#2058 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Thu Oct 3, 2024 4:56 pm

KnixinSix wrote:
DOT wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
That's helpful. Quick decisions. Zip zip zip.

I don't know where 3.8 seconds is coming from

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/touches?CF=TEAM_ABBREVIATION*E*nyk&Season=2023-24&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&dir=D&sort=AVG_SEC_PER_TOUCH

I see 3.2 seconds. Which is still a lot, but it's close enough to Mikal (2.9 seconds per touch) and it's not that long.



That's an excellent metric....... which reveals KAT will score in the flow of the game and find the open man vs Randle who has a tendency to tunnel vision on his own scoring and ball stop


Is Brunson a ball stopper or deuce since they lead the team in average seconds with per touch? It just says to me that Towns isn’t asked to create a lot of offense.
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Re: KAT To The Knicks Part 2 

Post#2059 » by E-Balla » Thu Oct 3, 2024 4:57 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
Calinks wrote:Towns is a far more gifted offensive player than a lot of you realize. Man was a walking top ten offense before the Gobert trade. I would say a good chunk, about 30 percent, of his offense was taken away once the Timberwolves got Rudy because Towns had to play PF against quicker guys and the spacing was much different on the court. Even with his neutered offensive game he still managed to put up roughly 20 PPG a night.

Him going back to center will open his game back up. He is an easy scorer and barely ever gets shut down one on one. He alsodrives a lot more than people think, he routinely cooked other Centers from the perimeter with his drives in the season or two before Gobert. His big problem was he gets tunel vision on those drives so when teams started to load up, he created a lot of turnovers. Befor teams got smart with the loading up and foul baiting though, he was roasting normal-slow center out there. It's why in the Memphis series they had to basically take Steven Adams out of the games, Adams is a damn good player but the dude was getting molested by Towns' drive game.

Give him a chance, you will see his crazy talent and reliability. Post-season he has had some problems for sure, I wont dispute that, but for the regular season, the dude is as consistent as it gets and is pure money when it comes to getting buckets. just put down the 20+ points every night on good efficiency, easy, no doubt about it.


I get the sense he doesn't _hold_ the ball too long. Is that accurate?


Yes.

KAT
53.2 touches per game, 1.9 time seconds average possession


Replacing

Randle
72.5 touches per game, 3.8 seconds average possession

Expect closer to 70 touches per game for KAT now that he's in NY. He was over 70 each year under Thibs before, and Randle was at 60 with Fitch.
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Re: KAT To The Knicks Part 2 

Post#2060 » by rajajackal » Thu Oct 3, 2024 4:59 pm

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Im Coming Home wrote:
DOT wrote:Honestly, I don't get why y'all keep going at it. It's just repetitive at this point

The foe list exists for a reason.

What I don't get is why a poster who literally only exists here to antagonize, troll, and sh*t stir and adds no actual positive value to the board is still allowed to keep doing the same things over and over. I feel like back in the day mods would not allow this sort of thing to continue over and over without doing anything at all about it.

Stop tryna back seat moderate. You should be glad that the mods are laid back now cause you pretty much are guilty of everything you said in that post too. Did it for 5 years straight. But you wanna play victim now lmao. This is what sham was talking about. Y’all weird for that.

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