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Re: Abu Dhabi, Preseason – Celtics vs Nuggets – Oct 4, Noon, & Oct 6, 10AM, 2024 

Post#201 » by playa-hater » Fri Oct 4, 2024 6:41 pm

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He really is one of the few players that plays serious and hard no matter what level the game is.

Before his career is over, I really want to see what he can do as a starter or at least a 6th man (with heavy minutes) on a team where he isn't behind so many All-star level players.
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Re: Abu Dhabi, Preseason – Celtics vs Nuggets – Oct 4, Noon, & Oct 6, 10AM, 2024 

Post#202 » by Hal14 » Fri Oct 4, 2024 6:41 pm

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bucknersrevenge wrote:Now Walsh is settling in.


since day 1 I said he needs to be just a 3 and D player. I still believe this 100%.

He should just study prime Bruce Bowen and try to be like him
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Post#203 » by playa-hater » Fri Oct 4, 2024 6:43 pm

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bucknersrevenge wrote:Now Walsh is settling in.


since day 1 I said he needs to be just a 3 and D player. I still believe this 100%.

He should just study prime Bruce Bowen and try to be like him


Absolutely, but also needs the team to put him in that position. Popp was not letting B Bowen do anything but that with Tim Duncan and company back then.
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Post#204 » by Dogen » Fri Oct 4, 2024 6:47 pm

Walsh at least hit 2/6 on 3s. Not great, but the shot looked better today.

Overall not much to write home about, as far as the bench.

JD looked pretty good.

Peterson had some nice moments.

Queta and Watson both pretty bad on D, getting run through by Nnaji, etc.

Springer was underwhelming. Had some hustle but forced things too much.

Skapintsev is a large body.

Scheierman and Walker get an incomplete score.
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Post#205 » by Curmudgeon » Fri Oct 4, 2024 6:49 pm

The Boston Celtics were in danger of losing the game but the Maine Celtics came in and bailed them out.
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Post#206 » by cloverleaf » Fri Oct 4, 2024 6:49 pm

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bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Baylor's defense has been much better,
while his shooting is still a work in progress.


The dev guys Brad's brought in so far, other than Queta, have really not impressed at all. Not a Peterson fan (that hitch in his shot is WEIRD.. Narrower shoulders than a bird, too.) JD is microscopic, Walsh thinks he became Tatum in the G League it looks like and Baylor's a shooter than can't get his shot off in the NBA.


JD's size is okay. Was 6' 1/2" without shoes at the combine two years ago, but with a 6'6'5" wingspan, some athleticism, and junk in his trunk.
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Post#207 » by TatumMVP » Fri Oct 4, 2024 6:53 pm

PP clutch.
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Post#208 » by playa-hater » Fri Oct 4, 2024 6:58 pm

My overreactions/ takeaways.

Starters - no comment.. just preseason game.

Kornet - was exactly what I'd expect.

X Tillman - great to see him hit the baseline 3s.

Springer - needs to show he can at least shoot 3s well. I don't trust him offensively overall.

Hauser - still streaky as hell but looked like he is more willing to put it on the floor on hard closeouts.

Queta - my god, does he not know how to stay out of Foul trouble.

Walsh - has a pulse.. just focus on 3 and D.. Thought his help defense was very good this game.

Baylor - Is he built for the speed of the NBA? Is he the type of player that has peaked in college as the main player but will struggle as a role player? Obviously SL and 1 preseason game proves nothing. But man I wish he would at least show some positive signs.

JD - same as Walsh, find your niche and keep it simple.

Walker - not a playmaker. Also just do what you are good at. shooting/spacing.

The center whose name I can not spell ( :D ) he moves so slow.. so basically he has a chance to be NBA MVP (Joker)

Peterson - He needs to keep showing he can knock down shots. Today he did well.

Watson - can not show anything, good or bad, with such few minutes. still my binky until proven otherwise.

PP - last but not least... the GOAT closer and entertainer in any game like this!!!
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Post#209 » by ConstableGeneva » Fri Oct 4, 2024 6:58 pm

The Celtics were -8 with Porzingis, Horford, and Kornet all OFF the floor.
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Post#210 » by cloverleaf » Fri Oct 4, 2024 6:59 pm

Red2 wrote:Kornet much better off the bench


I didn't see the game, but his box score looks good: 3-5 with 11 boards, 3 assists, a steal, and a +12 in 21 minutes.
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Post#211 » by bisme37 » Fri Oct 4, 2024 7:03 pm

Hopefully I wasn't supposed to make a postgame thread haha.

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Post#212 » by 165bows » Fri Oct 4, 2024 7:08 pm

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lon3lytoaster wrote:
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Baylor's defense has been much better,
while his shooting is still a work in progress.


The dev guys Brad's brought in so far, other than Queta, have really not impressed at all. Not a Peterson fan (that hitch in his shot is WEIRD.. Narrower shoulders than a bird, too.) JD is microscopic, Walsh thinks he became Tatum in the G League it looks like and Baylor's a shooter than can't get his shot off in the NBA.


JD's size is okay. Was 6' 1/2" without shoes at the combine two years ago, but with a 6'6'5" wingspan, some athleticism, and junk in his trunk.

I looked this up during summer league - he’s got better reach/wingspan than Christian Braun and Andrew Nembhard.

He’s not big but he’s not tiny either.
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Post#213 » by 165bows » Fri Oct 4, 2024 7:10 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:The Celtics were -8 with Porzingis, Horford, and Kornet all OFF the floor.

Springer gets in there with the usual bench plus minus champs (Kornet, PP and Hauser).
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Post#214 » by Hal14 » Fri Oct 4, 2024 7:11 pm

My thoughts:

Tillman: he was awesome. Clearly looked better than Kornet and Queta. From what I saw, there is a very clear hierarchy in terms of how good our backup bigs are. 1) Tillman 2) Kornet 3) Queta.

Not only did he hit a couple of 3's. The pass to JB when he cut and threw down the dunk was excellent..good glue guy, connective passing type stuff there..he's unselfish on offense, played great D. Seems really in sync with the other guys out there - including the starting group.

We crushed the league last season because our top 8 was so good. Well, now it's a top 9 with Tillman in that group. So we're even deeper now.

Kornet - he was Kornet. He is what he is. Not any better than before and not any worse. Not as good as Tillman but Kornet looks like a solid 10th man

Pritchard and Hauser - we know what they can do already. So I won't say much about them. They're good. Pritchard was good..Hauser hit some shots, played solid D and I liked that play where he faked the 3, put it on the floor and then made the pass to Kornet at the rim for the layup. That type of dribble drive, playmaking stuff is not something he has done much of in the past so nice to see him expanding his game a bit

JD - I thought he looked good. The block was very nice, the one handed (left hand) lob was nice. Hit a 3. He looked like a guy who could possibly be a legit backup PG in this league

Peterson - looked good. Looks a bit stronger physically than before. Showed nice ball skills and didn't look terrible on D. Looked like a guy who could possibly give so some rotation mins off the bench and i like his versatility as a guy who could possibly play the 1, 2 or 3

Watson - didn't get a lot of playing time and while he didn't make a ton of impact, one thing we have talked about with him (after the draft and during summer league) is that he is a guy who just kind of blends in out there..he's not the type of guy who is going to jump out of the gym or dominate the ball or score a ton of points or even block tons of shots. He simply is a guy who will play unselfish, fundamentally sound, team basketball with high IQ. He will keep the offense flowing, pass to the open man, set screens, crash the boards, be where he is supposed to be, not make mistakes and be a complementary piece. He's alert, his awareness is good, etc.

Honestly, I could see him passing Queta on the depth chart. I mean, depending on matchups, like if we need more size in there than sure, go Queta. But if we're going with a small ball 5, then Watson can play. And if we have someone like KP, Tillman or Horford (or maybe even Kornet) at the 5, you could play Watson at the 4.

Queta - Had some moments where he was good, like the nice post move, drop step and finish at the rim. But overall, looked raw..had trouble playing D without fouling, and fouled while setting a screen too. I don't want to hear anyone saying that he should get mins over Kornet or Tillman again lol. Again, I could see Watson passing him on the depth chart. If not, he's a solid 5th big (4th while KP is out) but clearly the majority of the big man mins will be KP, Horford, Tillman and Kornet.

Walsh - he makes me nervous when he has the ball. But he hit a couple 3's. Defense was pretty good. And what can you expect from a 20 year old kid. He'll probably be in Maine most of the season with an outside chance at getting some rotation mins if he plays well enough

Walker - wasn't out there for long so can't say much..I think more than anything, the fact that he barely played tells us that he probably won't make the team. Remember, if he makes the team than we're paying like $10 mil in additional taxes. So for it to be worth the $, he would have to be out there playing a lot and playing well. And making an impact and being a clear cut top 9 or 10 guy on team..that's just not the case. Walker looked ok out there when he was on the floor. But he also didn't do anything positive to really earn more mins.

Scheierman - yikes, he was bad. He'll be in Maine this year

Springer - He was good. Not great, just good. A couple of really nice offensive rebounds, unselfish passing. The combination of defense, rebounding, athleticism and hustle but being limited on offense is like the Brissett role from last season..just in a different position. Brissett was a solid 10th/11th man for us last season..Springer could do the same this season.

Kind of seems like Springer and Walsh are battling for some mins as that guard/wing off the bench behind Pritchard/Hauser. Seems like they know that the Pritchard/Hauser duo is really good shooting, good offense but limited on D so they are fine with putting someone out there with the bench group that is a defensive guy who's limited on O like Walsh/Springer.

Plus, Springer just turned 22..Walsh is 20. By putting those guys out there, you develop them so that eventually they could become a *really* good player for you. And with the 2nd apron penalties you need to be able to develop guys like that on cheap contracts (yes, Springer is on a rookie contract still so that is a cheap contract).

The Euro 7-footer guy is ok..not terrible but he's slow..I see him as our center for the Maine squad and nothing more..
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Post#217 » by Dogen » Fri Oct 4, 2024 7:51 pm

Hal14 wrote:My thoughts:

Tillman: he was awesome. Clearly looked better than Kornet and Queta. From what I saw, there is a very clear hierarchy in terms of how good our backup bigs are. 1) Tillman 2) Kornet 3) Queta.

Not only did he hit a couple of 3's. The pass to JB when he cut and threw down the dunk was excellent..good glue guy, connective passing type stuff there..he's unselfish on offense, played great D. Seems really in sync with the other guys out there - including the starting group.

We crushed the league last season because our top 8 was so good. Well, now it's a top 9 with Tillman in that group. So we're even deeper now.

Kornet - he was Kornet. He is what he is. Not any better than before and not any worse. Not as good as Tillman but Kornet looks like a solid 10th man

Pritchard and Hauser - we know what they can do already. So I won't say much about them. They're good. Pritchard was good..Hauser hit some shots, played solid D and I liked that play where he fakes the 2, put it on the floor and then made the pass to Kornet at the rim for the layup. That type of dribble drive, playmaking stuff is not something he has done much of in the past so nice to see him expanding his game a bit

JD - I thought he looked good. The block was very nice, the one handed (left hand) lob was nice. Hit a 3. He looked like a guy who could possibly be a legit backup PG in this league

Peterson - looked good. Looks a bit stronger physically than before. Showed nice ball skills and didn't look terrible on D. Looked like a guy who could possibly give so some rotation mins off the bench and i like his versatility as a guy who could possibly play the 1, 2 or 3

Watson - didn't get a lot of playing time and while he didn't make a ton of impact, one thing we have talked about with him (after the draft and during summer league) is that he is a guy who just kind of blends in out there..he's not the type of guy who is going to jump out of the gym or dominate the ball or score a ton of points or even block tons of shots. He simply is a guy who will play unselfish, fundamentally sound, team basketball with high IQ. He will keep the offense flowing, pass to the open man, set screens, crash the boards, be where he is supposed to be, not make mistakes and be a complementary piece. He's alert, his awareness is good, etc.

Honestly, I could see him passing Queta on the depth chart. I mean, depending on matchups, like if we need more size in there than sure, go Queta. But if we're going with a small ball 5, then Watson can play. And if we have someone like KP, Tillman or Horford (or maybe even Kornet) at the 5, you could play Watson at the 4.

Queta - Had some moments where he was good, like the nice post move, drop step and finish at the rim. But overall, looked raw..had trouble playing D without fouling, and fouled while setting a screen too. I don't want to hear anyone saying that he should get mins over Kornet or Tillman again lol. Again, I could see Watson passing him on the depth chart. If not, he's a solid 5th big (4th while KP is out) but clearly the majority of the big man mins will be KP, Horford, Tillman and Kornet.

Walsh - he makes me nervous when he has the ball. But he hit a couple 3's. Defense was pretty good. And what can you expect from a 20 year old kid. He'll probably be in Maine most of the season with an outside chance at getting some rotation mins if he plays well enough

Walker - wasn't out there for long so can't say much..I think more than anything, the fact that he barely played tells us that he probably won't make the team. Remember, if he makes the team than we're paying like $10 mil in additional taxes. So for it to be worth the $, he would have to be out there playing a lot and playing well. And making an impact and being a clear cut top 9 or 10 guy on team..that's just not the case. Walker looked ok out there when he was on the floor. But he also didn't do anything positive to really earn more mins.

Scheierman - yikes, he was bad. He'll be in Maine this year

Springer - He was good. Not great, just good. A couple of really nice offensive rebounds, unselfish passing. The combination of defense, rebounding, athleticism and hustle but being limited on offense is like the Brissett role from last season..just in a different position. Brissett was a solid 10th/11th man for us last season..Springer could do the same this season.

Kind of seems like Springer and Walsh are battling for some mins as that guard/wing off the bench behind Pritchard/Hauser. Seems like they know that the Pritchard/Hauser duo is really good shooting, good offense but limited on D so they are fine with putting someone out there with the bench group that is a defensive guy who's limited on O like Walsh/Springer.

Plus, Springer just turned 22..Walsh is 20. By putting those guys out there, you develop them so that eventually they could become a *really* good player for you. And with the 2nd apron penalties you need to be able to develop guys like that on cheap contracts (yes, Springer is on a rookie contract still so that is a cheap contract).

The Euro 7-footer guy is ok..not terrible but he's slow..I see him as our center for the Maine squad and nothing more..


Yep, Tillman really showing signs of being able to fill that 9th spot. With Porzingis out, and Horford taking rest days (today was already one acc to Joe), it's even more important to fill that big spot. Maybe he'll start over Kornet the next game. I think Joe likes to have the extra size to start games, and since X will be mainly a backup, it's good to get familiarity with that role early.

The rest of the guys, it's still sort of a crap shoot. I've expected Springer to be the next guy on the totem pole, but he was just OK, didn't show a big change either way from last season yet. I have confidence in him growing into the role, but the shot needs to improve. If Walsh is a plus defender and can start hitting those 3's with regularity, I could see him getting those minutes, as he's a more obvious Brissett replacement. And JD looked pretty good too, so he could move ahead of Springer on the depth chart if he keeps climbing the ranks.
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Post#218 » by RondoToKG » Fri Oct 4, 2024 8:07 pm

awwww wtf I didnt know it was in Abu dhabi this year, of course I missed it
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Post#219 » by Parasite » Fri Oct 4, 2024 8:51 pm

If our intention in drafting Scheierman was that he would eventually replace Hauser, then hoo boy he has a long way to go. It is comforting to know that we do have two guys in Kornet and Tillman who can definitely give us solid regular season minutes to rest KP and Al. That is so valuable.
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Post#220 » by lon3lytoaster » Fri Oct 4, 2024 9:14 pm

cloverleaf wrote:
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bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Baylor's defense has been much better,
while his shooting is still a work in progress.


The dev guys :o Brad's brought in so far, other than Queta, have really not impressed at all. Not a Peterson fan (that hitch in his shot is WEIRD.. Narrower shoulders than a bird, too.) JD is microscopic, Walsh thinks he became Tatum in the G League it looks like and Baylor's a shooter than can't get his shot off in the NBA.


JD's size is okay. Was 6' 1/2" without shoes at the combine two years ago, but with a 6'6'5" wingspan, some athleticism, and junk in his trunk.



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