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Re: 2024 Training Camp - Preseason Thread 

Post#41 » by JMAC3 » Wed Oct 2, 2024 3:21 pm

Bassman wrote:Last comment on this, as I think some are missing my point.

There were good centers available at 6 or in a trade back scenario. The front office placed too much hope in Williams returning despite their direct knowledge he was not ready to be depended on. They chose a stretch of a prospect over strengthening our center position and possibly acquiring more assets.

Williams still unproven to be ready to play, and now has a new injury problem. Their decisions keep our center position a weakness.


Drafting for need at #6 is a bad process, regardless of how you view Mark moving forward.

Especially for a team with so much future draft capital.
We have 15 2nds and 9 firsts in the next 7 years of draft.

We can't go back in time at this point, but what we can do is pivot in the future and if needed we have more than enough tools to trade for a starting center or backup center.

Jarrett Allen... traded for 24th pick
Daniel Gafford--- traded for 26th pick
Steven Adams-- traded for 3 2nd round picks

The Miami pick is top 14 protected in 2027 and unprotected in 2028. I am very confident that could net us a very good center via trade if we needed it, which would be a lot cheaper than sending the 6th overall pick for said player.
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Re: 2024 Training Camp - Preseason Thread 

Post#42 » by LofJ » Wed Oct 2, 2024 5:31 pm

Kemba looks like he's scrimmaging with the team. Its going to be so awesome seeing him back in teal/purple this year.

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Re: 2024 Training Camp - Preseason Thread 

Post#43 » by Bassman » Wed Oct 2, 2024 8:21 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
Bassman wrote:Last comment on this, as I think some are missing my point.

There were good centers available at 6 or in a trade back scenario. The front office placed too much hope in Williams returning despite their direct knowledge he was not ready to be depended on. They chose a stretch of a prospect over strengthening our center position and possibly acquiring more assets.

Williams still unproven to be ready to play, and now has a new injury problem. Their decisions keep our center position a weakness.


Drafting for need at #6 is a bad process, regardless of how you view Mark moving forward.

Especially for a team with so much future draft capital.
We have 15 2nds and 9 firsts in the next 7 years of draft.

We can't go back in time at this point, but what we can do is pivot in the future and if needed we have more than enough tools to trade for a starting center or backup center.

Jarrett Allen... traded for 24th pick
Daniel Gafford--- traded for 26th pick
Steven Adams-- traded for 3 2nd round picks

The Miami pick is top 14 protected in 2027 and unprotected in 2028. I am very confident that could net us a very good center via trade if we needed it, which would be a lot cheaper than sending the 6th overall pick for said player.


Drafting on raw hope at 6 has also been a fool’s errand amongst many teams. I hope this one works out for us. As for “make a trade if we have to”, past performance is not predictive of future returns. Hornets tried that a number of times with limited success. Big Al was probably our best “traded for” center.
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Re: 2024 Training Camp - Preseason Thread 

Post#44 » by HornetJail » Wed Oct 2, 2024 9:15 pm

Bassman wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:
Bassman wrote:Last comment on this, as I think some are missing my point.

There were good centers available at 6 or in a trade back scenario. The front office placed too much hope in Williams returning despite their direct knowledge he was not ready to be depended on. They chose a stretch of a prospect over strengthening our center position and possibly acquiring more assets.

Williams still unproven to be ready to play, and now has a new injury problem. Their decisions keep our center position a weakness.


Drafting for need at #6 is a bad process, regardless of how you view Mark moving forward.

Especially for a team with so much future draft capital.
We have 15 2nds and 9 firsts in the next 7 years of draft.

We can't go back in time at this point, but what we can do is pivot in the future and if needed we have more than enough tools to trade for a starting center or backup center.

Jarrett Allen... traded for 24th pick
Daniel Gafford--- traded for 26th pick
Steven Adams-- traded for 3 2nd round picks

The Miami pick is top 14 protected in 2027 and unprotected in 2028. I am very confident that could net us a very good center via trade if we needed it, which would be a lot cheaper than sending the 6th overall pick for said player.


Drafting on raw hope at 6 has also been a fool’s errand amongst many teams. I hope this one works out for us. As for “make a trade if we have to”, past performance is not predictive of future returns. Hornets tried that a number of times with limited success. Big Al was probably our best “traded for” center.

that is much more a "our front offices have sucked forever" problem than a "you shouldn't trade for centers" problem
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Re: 2024 Training Camp - Preseason Thread 

Post#45 » by yosemiteben » Wed Oct 2, 2024 9:53 pm

Bassman wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:
Bassman wrote:Last comment on this, as I think some are missing my point.

There were good centers available at 6 or in a trade back scenario. The front office placed too much hope in Williams returning despite their direct knowledge he was not ready to be depended on. They chose a stretch of a prospect over strengthening our center position and possibly acquiring more assets.

Williams still unproven to be ready to play, and now has a new injury problem. Their decisions keep our center position a weakness.


Drafting for need at #6 is a bad process, regardless of how you view Mark moving forward.

Especially for a team with so much future draft capital.
We have 15 2nds and 9 firsts in the next 7 years of draft.

We can't go back in time at this point, but what we can do is pivot in the future and if needed we have more than enough tools to trade for a starting center or backup center.

Jarrett Allen... traded for 24th pick
Daniel Gafford--- traded for 26th pick
Steven Adams-- traded for 3 2nd round picks

The Miami pick is top 14 protected in 2027 and unprotected in 2028. I am very confident that could net us a very good center via trade if we needed it, which would be a lot cheaper than sending the 6th overall pick for said player.


Drafting on raw hope at 6 has also been a fool’s errand amongst many teams. I hope this one works out for us. As for “make a trade if we have to”, past performance is not predictive of future returns. Hornets tried that a number of times with limited success. Big Al was probably our best “traded for” center.

Just to be clear, you think drafting the 20 year old center that twice broke his foot in the season before he was drafted is a solution to your probably of having an injury prone center?
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Re: 2024 Training Camp - Preseason Thread 

Post#46 » by Diop » Thu Oct 3, 2024 12:21 am

yosemiteben wrote:
Bassman wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:
Drafting for need at #6 is a bad process, regardless of how you view Mark moving forward.

Especially for a team with so much future draft capital.
We have 15 2nds and 9 firsts in the next 7 years of draft.

We can't go back in time at this point, but what we can do is pivot in the future and if needed we have more than enough tools to trade for a starting center or backup center.

Jarrett Allen... traded for 24th pick
Daniel Gafford--- traded for 26th pick
Steven Adams-- traded for 3 2nd round picks

The Miami pick is top 14 protected in 2027 and unprotected in 2028. I am very confident that could net us a very good center via trade if we needed it, which would be a lot cheaper than sending the 6th overall pick for said player.


Drafting on raw hope at 6 has also been a fool’s errand amongst many teams. I hope this one works out for us. As for “make a trade if we have to”, past performance is not predictive of future returns. Hornets tried that a number of times with limited success. Big Al was probably our best “traded for” center.

Just to be clear, you think drafting the 20 year old center that twice broke his foot in the season before he was drafted is a solution to your probably of having an injury prone center?

to be fair, Bassman did say Clingan wasn't his preference, he wanted to trade back for Kelel Ware
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Re: 2024 Training Camp - Preseason Thread 

Post#47 » by luciano-davidwesley » Thu Oct 3, 2024 2:11 am

Diop wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:
Bassman wrote:
Drafting on raw hope at 6 has also been a fool’s errand amongst many teams. I hope this one works out for us. As for “make a trade if we have to”, past performance is not predictive of future returns. Hornets tried that a number of times with limited success. Big Al was probably our best “traded for” center.

Just to be clear, you think drafting the 20 year old center that twice broke his foot in the season before he was drafted is a solution to your probably of having an injury prone center?

to be fair, Bassman did say Clingan wasn't his preference, he wanted to trade back for Kelel Ware

I don't recall anyone advocating for Kalel Ware in our draft threads though.
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Re: 2024 Training Camp - Preseason Thread 

Post#48 » by yosemiteben » Thu Oct 3, 2024 2:47 am

Diop wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:
Bassman wrote:
Drafting on raw hope at 6 has also been a fool’s errand amongst many teams. I hope this one works out for us. As for “make a trade if we have to”, past performance is not predictive of future returns. Hornets tried that a number of times with limited success. Big Al was probably our best “traded for” center.

Just to be clear, you think drafting the 20 year old center that twice broke his foot in the season before he was drafted is a solution to your probably of having an injury prone center?

to be fair, Bassman did say Clingan wasn't his preference, he wanted to trade back for Kelel Ware

That seems like extreme revisionist history to me
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Re: 2024 Training Camp - Preseason Thread 

Post#49 » by Goodecharlotte » Thu Oct 3, 2024 12:20 pm

Who’s ready for some basketball, must admit its the most optimistic I’ve been going into a season for a few years now. Its probably a fools optimism but a new season new hope.
This season hopefully will be different, it feels different with a new coach who’s actually won something and knows how to win. Obviously a lot will depend on injuries but that goes with any sport regardless.
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Re: 2024 Training Camp - Preseason Thread 

Post#50 » by fatlever » Fri Oct 4, 2024 5:48 pm

"#Hornets are working on defense at the end of their final training camp practice. As I've been writing, Charles Lee ain't playing with things on that side of the ball."
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we've heard this before, but maybe lee can finally get thru to this core
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Re: 2024 Training Camp - Preseason Thread 

Post#51 » by fatlever » Fri Oct 4, 2024 5:51 pm

p1 - hornets @ knicks 5pm sunday oct 6
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Re: 2024 Training Camp - Preseason Thread 

Post#52 » by fatlever » Fri Oct 4, 2024 8:15 pm

you'll never guess who got injured today
"Cody Martin suffered a sprained right wrist and a thumb laceration blocking a shot at the rim during the Hornets’ final training camp practice at Duke University’s Michael W. Krzyzewski Center on Friday, the team announced. He’s listed as day-to-day. That means Martin will miss the Hornets’ preseason opener against New York at Spectrum Center on Sunday"

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Re: 2024 Training Camp - Preseason Thread 

Post#53 » by JustBuzzin » Fri Oct 4, 2024 8:34 pm

Love this core, but thinking about the possibility of adding a Flagg or Ace to this core just gives me young OKC vibes when they added KD/Russ/Harden. We need that kind of core.

Hope we improve as a team, but man I just want a shot to get a top 3 pick this season.
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Post#54 » by LofJ » Fri Oct 4, 2024 11:12 pm

This picture is honestly blowing my mind.

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Re: 2024 Training Camp - Preseason Thread 

Post#55 » by fatlever » Sun Oct 6, 2024 3:39 am

fatlever wrote:p1 - hornets @ knicks 5pm sunday oct 6


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Re: 2024 Training Camp - Preseason Thread 

Post#56 » by Diop » Sun Oct 6, 2024 6:44 am

fatlever wrote:you'll never guess who got injured today
"Cody Martin suffered a sprained right wrist and a thumb laceration blocking a shot at the rim during the Hornets’ final training camp practice at Duke University’s Michael W. Krzyzewski Center on Friday, the team announced. He’s listed as day-to-day. That means Martin will miss the Hornets’ preseason opener against New York at Spectrum Center on Sunday"

Read more at: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/charlotte-hornets/article293486319.html#storylink=cpy

could be worse, Dante Exum might require surgery on his wrist after his injury. that guy can never stay healthy
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Re: 2024 Training Camp - Preseason Thread 

Post#57 » by amcoolio » Sun Oct 6, 2024 3:39 pm

Can't believe the preseason/season is already here. NBA has such short breaks it feels like

I think we'll have moments but finish with 30-35 wins. Hopefully get some lottery luck and then go next year guns a blazing
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Re: 2024 Training Camp - Preseason Thread 

Post#58 » by fatlever » Sun Oct 6, 2024 7:09 pm

Now nsj is reportedly injured as well.
We are in mid-season injury form already

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Re: 2024 Training Camp - Preseason Thread 

Post#59 » by HornetJail » Sun Oct 6, 2024 8:20 pm

amcoolio wrote:Can't believe the preseason/season is already here. NBA has such short breaks it feels like

I think we'll have moments but finish with 30-35 wins. Hopefully get some lottery luck and then go next year guns a blazing

our season ended nearly 6 months ago

season never really ended for the few players that went on a deep playoff run and then participated in the Olympics though
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Re: 2024 Training Camp - Preseason Thread 

Post#60 » by NMBSurfin » Sun Oct 6, 2024 8:45 pm

is this thread going to serve as the game thread? We tip off game one at 5pm

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