Mitchell Robinson (NYK) for Jordan Clarkson (UTA)

[MoreyWins]

Straight up player for player.

My mindset is assuming the win-now Knicks want to replace the uncertainty of Robinson's availability with a rotation piece for the playoffs. Thus bringing in Jordan Clarkson as a sparkplug scoring piece the Knicks sorely needed last postseason. For the Utah Jazz, they are leveraging that Mitchell Robinson will be a more sought-after trade target once the deadline nears. Utah can allow Robinson to sit and recover his body to 100%, while in the meantime opening up minutes for their younger players to get reps.

[babyjax13]

If the Knicks need to cut 9 million for the Towns, trade the only way to do that is trading Robinson for less salary or dumping Achiuwa.

[MoreyWins]

If the Knicks need to cut 9 million for the Towns, trade the only way to do that is trading Robinson for less salary or dumping Achiuwa.

The Knicks would save $225K in the trade

[Rockazoids]

Straight up player for player.

My mindset is assuming the win-now Knicks want to replace the uncertainty of Robinson's availability with a rotation piece for the playoffs. Thus bringing in Jordan Clarkson as a sparkplug scoring piece the Knicks sorely needed last postseason. For the Utah Jazz, they are leveraging that Mitchell Robinson will be a more sought-after trade target once the deadline nears. Utah can allow Robinson to sit and recover his body to 100%, while in the meantime opening up minutes for their younger players to get reps.

So NY goes back to a starting center with Sims as the backup? It's not like KAT is some iron man, this just put Clarkson on the
books for two years. Danny Boy would have to give up ummmm, 2 1st.

[MoreyWins]

Straight up player for player.

My mindset is assuming the win-now Knicks want to replace the uncertainty of Robinson's availability with a rotation piece for the playoffs. Thus bringing in Jordan Clarkson as a sparkplug scoring piece the Knicks sorely needed last postseason. For the Utah Jazz, they are leveraging that Mitchell Robinson will be a more sought-after trade target once the deadline nears. Utah can allow Robinson to sit and recover his body to 100%, while in the meantime opening up minutes for their younger players to get reps.

So NY goes back to a starting center with Sims as the backup? It's not like KAT is some iron man, this just put Clarkson on the
books for two years. Danny Boy would have to give up ummmm, 2 1st.

I'm thinking the eight man rotation looks more like:

Brunson / McBride
Hart / Clarkson
Bridges / Hart / OG
OG / Bridges / Towns
Towns / Precious

That's without accounting for spot minutes from Diop, Sims, and Payne. I like Robinson, but I don't think the difference between both players are two firsts. Especially when Robinson is coming off career lows in points, blocks, FG%, FT%, and games started. He has two 31 game seasons under his belt including 2023-24, and this year will likely be the same. Clarkson certainly isn't perfect, but the likelihood he's available to contribute to the Knicks rotation by April and May is way higher.

[babyjax13]

If the Knicks need to cut 9 million for the Towns, trade the only way to do that is trading Robinson for less salary or dumping Achiuwa.

The Knicks would save $225K in the trade

Well that's my point. They have to move Robinson in the Towns trade for 9 million in savings.

[Rockazoids]

Straight up player for player.

My mindset is assuming the win-now Knicks want to replace the uncertainty of Robinson's availability with a rotation piece for the playoffs. Thus bringing in Jordan Clarkson as a sparkplug scoring piece the Knicks sorely needed last postseason. For the Utah Jazz, they are leveraging that Mitchell Robinson will be a more sought-after trade target once the deadline nears. Utah can allow Robinson to sit and recover his body to 100%, while in the meantime opening up minutes for their younger players to get reps.

So NY goes back to a starting center with Sims as the backup? It's not like KAT is some iron man, this just put Clarkson on the
books for two years. Danny Boy would have to give up ummmm, 2 1st.

I'm thinking the eight man rotation looks more like:

Brunson / McBride
Hart / Clarkson
Bridges / Hart / OG
OG / Bridges / Towns
Towns / Precious

That's without accounting for spot minutes from Diop, Sims, and Payne. I like Robinson, but I don't think the difference between both players are two firsts. Especially when Robinson is coming off career lows in points, blocks, FG%, FT%, and games started. He has two 31 game seasons under his belt including 2023-24, and this year will likely be the same. Clarkson certainly isn't perfect, but the likelihood he's available to contribute to the Knicks rotation by April and May is way higher.

Nope they have McBride, Payne, Kolekat the point
Hart, Bridges, Dadiet taking up the SG spot
Hart, Bridges, OG, Dadiet at SF
no room for 2yrs of Clarkson @ $14 M

[R-DAWG]

If the Knicks need to cut 9 million for the Towns, trade the only way to do that is trading Robinson for less salary or dumping Achiuwa.

The Knicks would save $225K in the trade

Well that's my point. They have to move Robinson in the Towns trade for 9 million in savings.

The Knicks have a path to the salary they need by signing and trading some minimum guys and routing them to Charlotte to make the trade work.

[R-DAWG]

I think this concept of a trade is very interesting, but I don’t think I would pull the trigger right away. I have been saying that the Knicks need extra shot creation and Clarkson would fit that role nicely. He would likely come off the bench but would also get minutes with Brunson in small lineups.

But I also see a world where Mitch becomes a difference maker in a 25MPG role off the bench.

[cgf]

I’m still not sure why folks are assuming Thibs will want to play KAT at the 5. Especially after seeing that he could thrive at the 4, next to a rich man’s Mitch

[Scoot McGroot]

The Knicks would save $225K in the trade

Well that's my point. They have to move Robinson in the Towns trade for 9 million in savings.

The Knicks have a path to the salary they need by signing and trading some minimum guys and routing them to Charlotte to make the trade work.

Think they’d have to buy Duane Washington out of his overseas contract to do that plan, though.

[jbk1234]

I don't know whether Mitch has actually veered into negative territory in light of his recent injury, but I know he has more trade value than Clarkson.

[jazzfan1971]

Jazz need to give more. If the Jazz trade Kessler elsewhere, maybe this becomes an option?

[BowlRips]

Jazz need to give more. If the Jazz trade Kessler elsewhere, maybe this becomes an option?

Clarkson and Kessler for Mitch and Dadiet as the player package.

Now the question is how many picks/swaps does Danny want?

If I'm Leon - I'd consider talking about a 2030 swap in addition to the Wizards protected pick.
This would set up their rotation in a real way

Kessler/Achiuwa
KAT
OG/Hart
Bridges/Clarkson
Brunson/McBride

[jbk1234]

Jazz need to give more. If the Jazz trade Kessler elsewhere, maybe this becomes an option?

Clarkson and Kessler for Mitch and Dadiet as the player package.

Now the question is how many picks/swaps does Danny want?

If I'm Leon - I'd consider talking about a 2030 swap in addition to the Wizards protected pick.
This would set up their rotation in a real way

Kessler/Achiuwa
KAT
OG/Hart
Bridges/Clarkson
Brunson/McBride

Clarkson has negative trade value. The Jazz have been trying to move him for over a year. Why would the Knicks be adding picks when they're already including the best player in the trade and a rookie who was just taken with a first?

This seems irrationally optimistic.

[babyjax13]

Jazz need to give more. If the Jazz trade Kessler elsewhere, maybe this becomes an option?

Clarkson and Kessler for Mitch and Dadiet as the player package.

Now the question is how many picks/swaps does Danny want?

If I'm Leon - I'd consider talking about a 2030 swap in addition to the Wizards protected pick.
This would set up their rotation in a real way

Kessler/Achiuwa
KAT
OG/Hart
Bridges/Clarkson
Brunson/McBride

I think that'd be an overpay for New York.

Dadiet + Robinson + WAS 1st (which is likely 2 2nds) for Clarkson + Kessler is something I'd be pretty happy with, maybe with 1 second coming back from Utah.

[Knickfan1982]

Straight up player for player.

My mindset is assuming the win-now Knicks want to replace the uncertainty of Robinson's availability with a rotation piece for the playoffs. Thus bringing in Jordan Clarkson as a sparkplug scoring piece the Knicks sorely needed last postseason. For the Utah Jazz, they are leveraging that Mitchell Robinson will be a more sought-after trade target once the deadline nears. Utah can allow Robinson to sit and recover his body to 100%, while in the meantime opening up minutes for their younger players to get reps.

This doesn't make the slightest bit of sense for the Knicks. Sorry. A sometimes healthy Robinson would be infinitely more useful for us than a healthy Clarkson.

[cgf]

Jazz need to give more. If the Jazz trade Kessler elsewhere, maybe this becomes an option?

Clarkson and Kessler for Mitch and Dadiet as the player package.

Now the question is how many picks/swaps does Danny want?

If I'm Leon - I'd consider talking about a 2030 swap in addition to the Wizards protected pick.
This would set up their rotation in a real way

Kessler/Achiuwa
KAT
OG/Hart
Bridges/Clarkson
Brunson/McBride

I think that'd be an overpay for New York.

Dadiet + Robinson + WAS 1st (which is likely 2 2nds) for Clarkson + Kessler is something I'd be pretty happy with, maybe with 1 second coming back from Utah.

I see the logic because teams do defend Clarkson like a dangerous shooter and he’s grown as a playmaker, but can he defend well enough for Thibs to actually give him steady PT or would he be another Bojan?

If not then I don’t see why we’d want to include Mitch & Clarkson instead of just doing something around Dadiet & Kessler.

[babyjax13]

Clarkson and Kessler for Mitch and Dadiet as the player package.

Now the question is how many picks/swaps does Danny want?

If I'm Leon - I'd consider talking about a 2030 swap in addition to the Wizards protected pick.
This would set up their rotation in a real way

Kessler/Achiuwa
KAT
OG/Hart
Bridges/Clarkson
Brunson/McBride

I think that'd be an overpay for New York.

Dadiet + Robinson + WAS 1st (which is likely 2 2nds) for Clarkson + Kessler is something I'd be pretty happy with, maybe with 1 second coming back from Utah.

I see the logic because teams do defend Clarkson like a dangerous shooter and he’s grown as a playmaker, but can he defend well enough for Thibs to actually give him steady PT or would he be another Bojan?

If not then I don’t see why we’d want to include Mitch & Clarkson instead of just doing something around Dadiet & Kessler.

I'd say he competes but that he gets out of position and is a bit thin. So, he's bad on defense, but he's better than Bojan was when you had him *relative to position.* I actually think b/c of Bojan's size that he probably had less of a negative effect on the defense than Clarkson, but I might be remembering his Utah and Indiana days too much.

[cgf]

It’s a shame NBA teams can’t retain some salary like NHL teams, because if Kuzma made enough for us to be able to match for him with Mitch + Kolek + WSH FRP and for Kessler with Dadiet + Sims + SRP(s), we’d be golden:

Towns | Kessler
Achiuwa | Kuzma
Anunoby
Bridges | Hart | McCullar
Brunson | McBride | Payne