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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#401 » by Chislic » Fri Oct 4, 2024 6:05 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Chislic wrote:This works on Spotrac trade machine. Picks would be involved. Jabari Smith Jr. would be our PF. Tre Murphy III would come off the bench with Hart.

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Tre Murphy III
???? (see below)

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Miles McBride
Herb Jones

Pelicans
Mitchell Robinson
Tari Eason



LMAO why in the world would the Rockets do this?


The deal would also work if you substitute Jabari Smith Jr. for any of the 4 players below. Who would you like?

1. Amen Thompson
2. Jeff Green
3. Jock Landale
4. Jae'Sean Tate
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#402 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Fri Oct 4, 2024 6:10 pm

Chislic wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Chislic wrote:This works on Spotrac trade machine. Picks would be involved. Jabari Smith Jr. would be our PF. Tre Murphy III would come off the bench with Hart.

Knicks
Tre Murphy III
???? (see below)

Rockets
Miles McBride
Herb Jones

Pelicans
Mitchell Robinson
Tari Eason



LMAO why in the world would the Rockets do this?


The deal would also work if you substitute Jabari Smith Jr. for any of the 4 players below. Who would you like?

1. Amen Thompson
2. Jeff Green
3. Jock Landale
4. Jae'Sean Tate



It's not a matter of who I want, it's that there's no reason the Rockets would do that. They just drafted Reed Sheppard, why would they want Deuce? Why do they want Herb Jones when they have Eason and Amen, both of which were excellent young defensive wings.

The Trey Murphy stuff started as a rumor from a random twitter user, it's not happening.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#403 » by Chislic » Fri Oct 4, 2024 6:30 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Chislic wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:

LMAO why in the world would the Rockets do this?


The deal would also work if you substitute Jabari Smith Jr. for any of the 4 players below. Who would you like?

1. Amen Thompson
2. Jeff Green
3. Jock Landale
4. Jae'Sean Tate



It's not a matter of who I want, it's that there's no reason the Rockets would do that. They just drafted Reed Sheppard, why would they want Deuce? Why do they want Herb Jones when they have Eason and Amen, both of which were excellent young defensive wings.

The Trey Murphy stuff started as a rumor from a random twitter user, it's not happening.


Yeah, I know the Trey Murphy is a lame twitter rumor. Just playing with #s. I don't see him as a possibility.

BTW, Eason will be a RFA in 2026. Herb Jones is better and has 1 more year on his contract.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#404 » by WargamesX » Fri Oct 4, 2024 9:48 pm

Chislic wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Chislic wrote:
The deal would also work if you substitute Jabari Smith Jr. for any of the 4 players below. Who would you like?

1. Amen Thompson
2. Jeff Green
3. Jock Landale
4. Jae'Sean Tate



It's not a matter of who I want, it's that there's no reason the Rockets would do that. They just drafted Reed Sheppard, why would they want Deuce? Why do they want Herb Jones when they have Eason and Amen, both of which were excellent young defensive wings.

The Trey Murphy stuff started as a rumor from a random twitter user, it's not happening.


Yeah, I know the Trey Murphy is a lame twitter rumor. Just playing with #s. I don't see him as a possibility.

BTW, Eason will be a RFA in 2026. Herb Jones is better and has 1 more year on his contract.


To be fair, the guy who started the rumor works for Sports Illustrated. It was hard to see his credentials because Twitter has purposefully made it hard to verify who or what is said on the platform. I had to do additional research to see the rumor was from a valid media source. Now is he lying, maybe, but its not a twitter rumor, its a sports illustrated rumor.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#405 » by aggo » Fri Oct 4, 2024 10:47 pm

go get Darko
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#406 » by KnixinSix » Fri Oct 4, 2024 11:42 pm

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moocow007 wrote:As far as Trey Murphy goes, it sounds like the Pelicans are the more aggressive party. I would imagine that Murphy would then slot into PF which then would push OG back to SF and Hart back to the bench (which I think is really more ideal).

As far as roster spots? Yeah Id be looking for vet ring chasers on minimums over no name young guys. Not sure if that becomes a problem under the new apron system (I've heard hints that a vet minimum is not the same as a rookie minimum for that).

I think that’s why we lost Mook. Just when we are about to benefit from ring chasing vets they change the rules. Now that LeBron’s team isn’t a serious contender I guess it’s ok.


I know right lol. But yeah I think that was why we lost him.


When did they change the rules? Mook simply decided not to resign with us after we got KAT.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#407 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Fri Oct 4, 2024 11:48 pm

aggo wrote:go get Darko


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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#408 » by GettinitDone » Sat Oct 5, 2024 4:25 am

Is the Ukrainian center white dude playing in SL still on our roster ??? He's pretty good, forgot about him !!
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#409 » by Jeffrey » Sat Oct 5, 2024 6:35 am

GettinitDone wrote:Is the Ukrainian center white dude playing in SL still on our roster ??? He's pretty good, forgot about him !!


I believe he is with Boston
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#410 » by Ray Williams » Sat Oct 5, 2024 7:40 am

Smart is the Porzingis kryptonite. If we deal Mitch and cap filler for him front office and Thibs must feel Jericho is ready to take the next step.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#411 » by spree2kawhi » Sat Oct 5, 2024 8:47 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Chislic wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:

LMAO why in the world would the Rockets do this?


The deal would also work if you substitute Jabari Smith Jr. for any of the 4 players below. Who would you like?

1. Amen Thompson
2. Jeff Green
3. Jock Landale
4. Jae'Sean Tate



It's not a matter of who I want, it's that there's no reason the Rockets would do that. They just drafted Reed Sheppard, why would they want Deuce? Why do they want Herb Jones when they have Eason and Amen, both of which were excellent young defensive wings.

The Trey Murphy stuff started as a rumor from a random twitter user, it's not happening.

And how much better than McBride is Murphy even?
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#412 » by spree2kawhi » Sat Oct 5, 2024 8:52 am

Ray Williams wrote:Smart is the Porzingis kryptonite. If we deal Mitch and cap filler for him front office and Thibs must feel Jericho is ready to take the next step.

Does that have legs?

Make it a three team trade: DiVincenzo to NY, Smart to Minnesota and Lord knows who to Memphis :lol:
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Post#413 » by R-DAWG » Sat Oct 5, 2024 11:44 am

spree2kawhi wrote:
Ray Williams wrote:Smart is the Porzingis kryptonite. If we deal Mitch and cap filler for him front office and Thibs must feel Jericho is ready to take the next step.

Does that have legs?

Make it a three team trade: DiVincenzo to NY, Smart to Minnesota and Lord knows who to Memphis :lol:


There is no way to add Smart in a salary aggregation trade. The only path I see to a Smart trade is part of a larger OG Anunoby trade to break the contract into smaller pieces.

I wouldn’t want Smart at this point. Undersized wing who’s subpar ball handler/shooter with a growing injury history. I still don’t understand who Boston turned him into KP along with 2 FRP’s
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#414 » by spree2kawhi » Sat Oct 5, 2024 1:55 pm

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spree2kawhi wrote:
Ray Williams wrote:Smart is the Porzingis kryptonite. If we deal Mitch and cap filler for him front office and Thibs must feel Jericho is ready to take the next step.

Does that have legs?

Make it a three team trade: DiVincenzo to NY, Smart to Minnesota and Lord knows who to Memphis :lol:


There is no way to add Smart in a salary aggregation trade. The only path I see to a Smart trade is part of a larger OG Anunoby trade to break the contract into smaller pieces.

I wouldn’t want Smart at this point. Undersized wing who’s subpar ball handler/shooter with a growing injury history. I still don’t understand who Boston turned him into KP along with 2 FRP’s

That’s how I’ve always looked at him. Like Randle, not reliable enough / too erratic on the ball.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#415 » by newyorker4ever » Sat Oct 5, 2024 3:58 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Chislic wrote:This works on Spotrac trade machine. Picks would be involved. Jabari Smith Jr. would be our PF. Tre Murphy III would come off the bench with Hart.

Knicks
Tre Murphy III
Jabari Smith Jr.

Rockets
Miles McBride
Herb Jones

Pelicans
Mitchell Robinson
Tari Eason





LMAO why in the world would the Rockets do this?


The Knicks the only team of the 3 that would say yes to this.
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Knicks showing interest in Marcus Smart 

Post#416 » by ctorres » Sat Oct 5, 2024 7:57 pm

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There are enough reports on it to where I felt like it warranted its own thread. Was doing some digging in other existing threads and didn't find any real discussion on it.

Seems like it would take a package of Robinson, McBride, and Dadiet for Smart.

As injury prone as Robinson has been, he is also one of the main reasons we beat the Cavs in 2023 and the Sixers in 2024.

McBride is a less talented Smart, but has a better 3pt shot and is about 7 years younger.

I still don't know if Dadiet has any future at all with the Knicks.

Robinson and Achiuwa is another package option once Achiuwa is allowed to be traded. Two bigs for Smart is a lot to give up too.

I don't see us trade Josh Hart for Smart. I'd be shocked.

I wonder if the goal is to surround Brunson and Towns with the strongest defensive squad possible. Also wondering if Thibs just wants to play 7 guys at 34-35 minutes a piece.
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Post#417 » by mpharris36 » Sat Oct 5, 2024 7:59 pm

I think its just the same (so so) report regurgitated by different mediums.
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Re: Knicks showing interest in Marcus Smart 

Post#418 » by ctorres » Sat Oct 5, 2024 8:00 pm

mpharris36 wrote:I think its just the same (so so) report regurgitated by different mediums.


True. It was getting hard to dig through other discussions just talk about the Smart speculation though. I wasn't sure if this warranted its own thread, but I went for it.
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Re: Knicks showing interest in Marcus Smart 

Post#419 » by mpharris36 » Sat Oct 5, 2024 8:03 pm

ctorres wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:I think its just the same (so so) report regurgitated by different mediums.


True. It was getting hard to dig through other discussions just talk about the Smart speculation though. I wasn't sure if this warranted its own thread, but I went for it.


I don't think its legit enough to warrant an entire discussion about we can keep it in the trade and transaction thread
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#420 » by Chislic » Sat Oct 5, 2024 9:44 pm

Moving this post to here... :usa: Looking past the surface level McBride vs Smart debate...

Why would NY want a $20,210,285 contract on the books? NY could be thinking win now AND the next move ahead. They could be setting us up for a nice upgrade. Remember, you can't aggregate contracts in trades if NY was over the 2nd apron. This is key. Maybe they are concerned they'd go above it by the trade deadline?

Mitch+Deuce ---> Marcus Smart ---> ???

Looking through names who make about that much salary who could be available... Myles Turner stood out to me. He will be an UFA at the end of the year making $19,928,500. Who do you think they would target?

NY could do the same thing with Clint Capella. ($22,265,280)

Mitch+Deuce ---> Clint Capella ---> ???

Smart has 1 more year on his contract than Capella, but his salary goes up a little. Smart would provide more flexibility for a future trade asset.

If we do have a young center lined up (Kessler/Richards) it could be Smart. If we don't then it could be Capella + unknown player with Precious going out.

Just a different way to look at these "rumors." Probably better options to update the roster at 20m or less instead of being capped out at 14m (Mitch) if we go into the 2nd apron.

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