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Best use of the TPE bulls have 

Post#1 » by Donkedave » Fri Oct 4, 2024 9:08 am

So ideas on how best to utilise the 2 TPE the bulls have.

1. $17,506,232. So they can use a TPE plus 255k(I think it’s the rule)?

2. $2,872,960 Same as above + 255k

What possible trade would make sense to make the most of this?

Even if that means taking salary and pick/s

Thoughts?
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Post#2 » by Dez » Fri Oct 4, 2024 10:31 am

Correct me I'm wrong but not much given we're close to the tax.
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Post#3 » by ChiTownHero1992 » Fri Oct 4, 2024 12:04 pm

Not a chance they use either of those "unless" Lavine and Vuc are gone and we somehow don't take on much money....

Already close to the Tax and not a chance Jerry will risk it this year!
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Post#4 » by Clint Eastwood » Fri Oct 4, 2024 12:16 pm

Have the Bulls ever used a TPE in their history? Honest question.
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Post#5 » by Muzbar » Fri Oct 4, 2024 12:56 pm

The Bulls use a TPE?

Hahahahahaha...

The Bulls have a better chance of acquiring a player over the height of 6'8" than using a TPE.
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Post#6 » by dougthonus » Fri Oct 4, 2024 1:27 pm

From a practical perspective, I don't think we even can use the TPE if it pushed us past the apron, and we certainly aren't going to go into the tax with it.

that leaves its only use as a way to do some transaction that is effectively cash neutral but has odd pieces that require you to chunk up salary in a weird way. I'm not sure what that would look like from a practical perspective, but there are some use cases, but they're all relatively unlikely and of low value.

We aren't going to use it get a major asset.
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Post#7 » by Guy Rodgers fan » Fri Oct 4, 2024 9:03 pm

Bulls have until July 7, 2025 to use Demar's $17 million TPE. That means they have a week in the next 2025-2026 season to use it. Lonzo will likely be off the team as well as Craig and the Bulls will be in a position to use the full amount then.
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Post#8 » by greenwing » Fri Oct 4, 2024 9:39 pm

I think the chances they use the TPE are low. It would likely take them being a surprise team this season. For example, if Lavine returns to form, Lonzo returns to form, Giddey shows he's an all-star caliber talent that makes Vucevic better and Patrick Williams lives up to his draft potential then this team could contend in the East. What are the chances that all of that happens? Slim to none. But never say never since there's always a chance.
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Post#9 » by dougthonus » Fri Oct 4, 2024 9:39 pm

Guy Rodgers fan wrote:Bulls have until July 7, 2025 to use Demar's $17 million TPE. That means they have a week in the next 2025-2026 season to use it. Lonzo will likely be off the team as well as Craig and the Bulls will be in a position to use the full amount then.


A draft day scenario to take a salary for a pick might be the most useful case as some team may be able to get far under the cap by trading into our TPE.
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Post#10 » by Ccwatercraft » Sat Oct 5, 2024 5:12 am

Guy Rodgers fan wrote:Bulls have until July 7, 2025 to use Demar's $17 million TPE. That means they have a week in the next 2025-2026 season to use it. Lonzo will likely be off the team as well as Craig and the Bulls will be in a position to use the full amount then.


Giddey likely chews that up, I believe.

If I understand, we can't use mle without being hard capped next year too. So that limits their options to trades,

Then again: if we refuse to go Into the tax we're essentially hard capping ourselves anyway.

So the TPE could be useful this year only if we trade away quite a bit of salary in a deal, which is certainly possible, but not likely.

can they use it as a facilitator in a 3 team Deal? There are rules on when and who, so itnwould be challenging.

I guess it's better than not having one, ao there's that.
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Post#11 » by Indomitable » Sat Oct 5, 2024 9:28 am

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Donkedave wrote:So ideas on how best to utilise the 2 TPE the bulls have.

1. $17,506,232. So they can use a TPE plus 255k(I think it’s the rule)?

2. $2,872,960 Same as above + 255k

What possible trade would make sense to make the most of this?

Even if that means taking salary and pick/s

Thoughts?

The Bulls are not going to do a damn thing with the exemption other let it expire.

They did not use it when they had Rose, Jimmy ,Noah and Thibs.
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Post#12 » by dougthonus » Sat Oct 5, 2024 12:36 pm

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Guy Rodgers fan wrote:Bulls have until July 7, 2025 to use Demar's $17 million TPE. That means they have a week in the next 2025-2026 season to use it. Lonzo will likely be off the team as well as Craig and the Bulls will be in a position to use the full amount then.


Giddey likely chews that up, I believe.

If I understand, we can't use mle without being hard capped next year too. So that limits their options to trades,

Then again: if we refuse to go Into the tax we're essentially hard capping ourselves anyway.

So the TPE could be useful this year only if we trade away quite a bit of salary in a deal, which is certainly possible, but not likely.

can they use it as a facilitator in a 3 team Deal? There are rules on when and who, so itnwould be challenging.

I guess it's better than not having one, ao there's that.


You are probably right that some other trade would likely need to be made to dump Vuc or Zach at the deadline for expirings in order for this to fully work.
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Post#13 » by ChettheJet » Sat Oct 5, 2024 5:18 pm

I could be off because I don't study the TPE rules but

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10137866-a-3-team-trade-idea-to-land-los-angeles-lakers-malcolm-brogdon-jonas-valanciunas


This notion includes the Bulls to help the other teams. Good to move Carter but very little use for Davis and Baldwin and as the discussion shows the $1.2M TPE is just bookkeeping.

But could this change slightly and the Bulls give up Terry with Carter and take back some other more expensive and useful player than Davis and Baldwin sliding him into the $17M slot?

of course I'm just wishing that the Bulls instead of just being facilitators could end up using this pretty large asset to actually better the team.
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Post#14 » by Ccwatercraft » Sun Oct 6, 2024 5:45 am

ChettheJet wrote:I could be off because I don't study the TPE rules but

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10137866-a-3-team-trade-idea-to-land-los-angeles-lakers-malcolm-brogdon-jonas-valanciunas


This notion includes the Bulls to help the other teams. Good to move Carter but very little use for Davis and Baldwin and as the discussion shows the $1.2M TPE is just bookkeeping.

But could this change slightly and the Bulls give up Terry with Carter and take back some other more expensive and useful player than Davis and Baldwin sliding him into the $17M slot?

of course I'm just wishing that the Bulls instead of just being facilitators could end up using this pretty large asset to actually better the team.


Getting carter off the roster is ideal, he's expendable, but that looks like we'd be just trading problems with Washington, in that case I'd rather he stays, unless they can actually play, I watched.zero wizards games last year

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