Preseason Game 1: Bucks at Pistons - 10/6/24 - 7:00 - ESPN

[RiotPunch]

As far as Ajax. We know who he is. He is a high-energy chaos merchant and glue guy. He can look good and be effective when sprinkled in with the vets, but can look like a non-NBA player in weaker lineups.

That excuse doesn't jive w/ the stats. I mean his top lineup in minutes was just him w/ the starters and they were -14 per 48.

It's not an excuse, and I'm not saying he is always effective with starters around him. I'm saying that's the only time he can look good. Even then it's in spurts and you get a lot of bad with it.

[drone3]

Liv/Tyler

If doc played Liv Tyler more we would have won

[HKPackFan]

Liv/Tyler

If doc played Liv Tyler more we would have won

Agreed, she would take that Milwaukee River and flood the opposition. Great defense.

[AussieBuck]

I think we knew Magic wasn't going to be ready this season, what I saw today was that he still has holy **** speed when in against real NBA athletes. That's the big deal.

Less ideal that all the younger guys that would be nice to have raising the athletic profile of the team, sucked first up.

Dame looks quick too. That's a nice confirmation.

[Jez2983]

Can anyone tell me if Trent came back after the elbow issue? If he played on for a little bit, it's more likely they just pulled him because it's pre season vs the injury was terribly bad. Could have also just pulled him immediately for the same reason.

Honestly it'll be hard to tell until we see him at practice.

[chonestown]

Preseason hot takes are fun.

They're exhausting.

Nothing fun about it all.

[MickeyDavis]

Can anyone tell me if Trent came back after the elbow issue? If he played on for a little bit, it's more likely they just pulled him because it's pre season vs the injury was terribly bad. Could have also just pulled him immediately for the same reason.

Honestly it'll be hard to tell until we see him at practice.

He immediately went to the locker room and was in a lot of pain.

[Ron Swanson]

All that matters for me is that Dame, Brook, and Prince looked awesome before they stopped caring. I don't know why anyone expects anything from Andre/Marjon/Livingston/Johnson/Smith this season. Outside of Marjon being a lost cause, who gives a ****?

Hopefully Trent's injury isn't serious.

[ShootingtheJ]

Listen, I think AJJ is a solid prospect with some really nice tools and a considerable ceiling. Height, handles, and shot creation. The issue for me when we drafted him was that he is an almost guaranteed non-contributor this season taking up a roster spot. I will die on the TSJ hill, who has yet to prove he can be a rotation player for Minny, but think he could have actually given us something now, in our window.

Agree, but TSJ wasn't the only option. Ryan Dunn fills a longstanding need, and might be ready now.

Dunn scored 9 in the Suns preseason win over the Lakers, and hit 2- 3s. Dunn would have given us the defensive dynamo we need, and he could help Giannis on the boards. I think Dunn will eventually score off the bounce, making him a fit in our new 5 or offense. We don't have enough guys that can beat their man off the dribble.

With Holmes off the board, I would have drafted Dunn.

[raferfenix]

Prince looking good could be a big deal.

Even before GTJ’s injury he’s our only established Middleton insurance.

And we need a versatile defensive specialist hustle player at the forward spots at full strength as well.

[kanyon]

Really needed Giannis or a mobile big on D when Brook was out.

Not sure Wright is a good backup PG. Seems like an ok addition to the team but wasn't as good at handling the ball as I was hoping.

Prince looked good. GTJ looked good and hopefully will be out only briefly... He wasn't moving his arm at all though.

AJ Green and Bobby had like 8 miscommunications between the two of them.

Hopefully the only time the Bucks score in single digits in a quarter this year?

[StickeeFingaz]

Preseason, but Bobby scoring 16 in 13 minutes and somehow being a -13 is impressive nonetheless.

[fansinceforever]

Idk, I'd argue that this team kinda needs younger athletes who can defend (in theory) like Andre and Livingston to show something. Anything really.

[German Athens]

I didn’t watch the whole game, but Prince was encouraging from what I saw.

He seems pretty active in passing lanes defensively, or at least knew where to be which clogged lanes. He also had an early offense pass to a cutter that I really appreciated. Often times our offense just becomes a 3pt shooting contest with very little movement elsewhere. Him being willing and capable of making a pass to a cutter is just good ball, and I liked seeing it.

Also that dunk he snatched from Ivey was shocking.

[ShootingtheJ]

Preseason, but Bobby scoring 16 in 13 minutes and somehow being a -13 is impressive nonetheless.

Sure, unless you like watch his minutes with context, and acknowledge the lineups he was playing with.

He's not perfect, and he's not really a center, but he's the least of our problems.

[chonestown]

ChatGPT

No

[Bernman]

Idk, I'd argue that this team kinda needs younger athletes who can defend (in theory) like Andre and Livingston to show something. Anything really.

That, and you can't exactly burn 1/3 of your roster on dead spots, w/out expecting any cost in regular or even postseason.

If we shouldn't expect anything from the rookies (I'd argue we should have if we picked Shannon), then we should be able to from 2nd-3rd yr players. We're holding ourselves up to below the standards of just about everyone in the league.

Us having arguably the worst bottom third of the roster, or more, can only be partially explained by sinking most our resources into the top of the roster. Horst is genuinely bad when it comes to evaluating unproven players.

However, a couple of these guys will look better when they're just being asked to support the core. They're limited players. Part of the problem was focusing so much on those guys as a strategy, because we already had the core, for a short period more.

[raferfenix]

If Ajax and Livingston can't contribute effectively that's rough.

AJ Johnson and Tyler Smith weren't drafted to help this year but if those guys can't the decision to go that route will be judged more harshly.

Doc sure seems to think AJ Green will contribute (and he did some last year) but he doesn't help our athleticism deficit like we need.

MarJon isn't even getting lip service from the team anymore. We can't afford that dead roster spot if we think he just doesn't have it. Suspect we'll do something if that's the case.

[paulpressey25]

All that matters for me is that Dame, Brook, and Prince looked awesome before they stopped caring. I don't know why anyone expects anything from Andre/Marjon/Livingston/Johnson/Smith this season. Outside of Marjon being a lost cause, who gives a ****?

Hopefully Trent's injury isn't serious.

We need one of those dudes to step up. Badly. Not even talking like Michael Redd step-up, but even just a contributor like Ramon Sessions or LRMAM. Last night was sort of ridiculous in that half the roster looks unplayable.

[Ron Swanson]

All that matters for me is that Dame, Brook, and Prince looked awesome before they stopped caring. I don't know why anyone expects anything from Andre/Marjon/Livingston/Johnson/Smith this season. Outside of Marjon being a lost cause, who gives a ****?

Hopefully Trent's injury isn't serious.

We need one of those dudes to step up. Badly. Not even talking like Michael Redd step-up, but even just a contributor like Ramon Sessions or LRMAM. Last night was sort of ridiculous in that half the roster looks unplayable.

Why? Like, would it make me feel better about the future and keeping Giannis here 3-5 years down the road? Absolutely, but for the immediate goal of winning a championship this season, none of those dudes matter, at all.