Postgame thread: Knicks @ Hornets

[3toheadmelo]

it sure feels as though people here are rooting for KAT to fail

I dont get it

That is exactly what is happening... And you know who is the ringleader of it and why

I agree, rooting for KAT to play the 5 is rooting him to fail.

[sol537]

Until Mitch returns... I'd like to see:

Starters: KAT, Precious, OG, Mikal, Brunson
Bench: Hart, McBride, Shamet, Sims

Why? I think Precious is capable of being an elite defender next to OG and Mikal and we get more interior size to help KAT. Hart and McBride off the bench also balances the line-ups better IMO. We still go "death lineup" small ball to end halves and Hart still gets his close to 30 minutes but this set-up gives us better flow like when SAS would start Tiago Splitter next to Duncan and bring Manu off the bench.

Still, I'm sure Hart in the starting lineup would do very well anyhow once all the guys get used to each other.

[3toheadmelo]

i'm sure some of you guys on your high horse have criticized a member of the knicks once or twice. you must have wanted them to fail at the time. sad.

We can't even have healthy debates with metrics on here anymore. What happened to this place

this place is just like everywhere else, this is discourse in this country nowadays. "i don't want to hear anything i don't fully agree with. and i want the people saying it gone if they don't stop saying it"

Yep, people can't have debates without being ignorant and disrespectful to the other side. It sucks.

I'm open to being wrong about KAT at the 5 and I'm sure you are too, but apparently if you think it's not gonna work you're just "trolling and rooting him to fail" like wtf?

[Fury]

Best part of this debate is that it doesn't matter.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

i'm sure some of you guys on your high horse have criticized a member of the knicks once or twice. you must have wanted them to fail at the time. sad.

We can't even have healthy debates with metrics on here anymore. What happened to this place

this place is just like everywhere else, this is discourse in this country nowadays. "i don't want to hear anything i don't fully agree with. and i want the people saying it gone if they don't stop saying it"

But, in your case it's pretty transparent, you're hoping it doesn't work because it makes Walking Boot expendable. You are absolutely correct, this truly discourse in this country in a nutshell, acting fair and balanced when there's an ulterior motive funding your stance.


sham's post paid for by Big Mitch corporation, a subsidiary of Ford F-350 pickup trucks and Walking Boots.

[3toheadmelo]

At least nodope and Chanel don't take it personal when I debate with them about this. Props to them. Can always have healthy debates with them.

[robillionaire]

I like Randle and Towns so I don’t even know what to say to some of these people

Towns is going to be a 20 10 all star all nba player and people are going to look silly for doubting him based on nothing. He is a 4x all star 2x all nba and will be both again this season. So change gears now in the preseason or look silly soon

[NoDopeOnSundays]

At least nodope and Chanel don't take it personal when I debate with them about this. Props to them. Can always have healthy debates with them.

I do with sham, I want the worst for him in all situations. If he won the lottery I'd hope he'd lose the ticket, if he stubbed his toe I'd want it to turn out he has to lose it because it's infected, if he got to meet his idol Hell Rell I'd hope Rell would just ignore him trying to sell him an 8ball jacket.

When sham loses, everyone wins.

[ctorres]

Saying KAT should be at the 4 isn't rooting him to fail. That's helping the team be successful versus when he's at the 5.

Then make OG the 5 when they are playing together, problem solved!

After some of the great plays we saw with KAT yesterday, I can't believe all the doom and gloom I am seeing on here.

Randle had to work so freaking hard for his buckets. KAT makes it look so easy.

[Wildcat]

it sure feels as though people here are rooting for KAT to fail

I dont get it

Randle v. KAT debatable wasn't going away after months if back and forth. With people actively **** on Randle while he was in a NYK jersey, it seems like fair game, honestly.

I certainly want KAT to success, but those labels aren't going to go away. Much too soon for gloom and doom, though. I don't think yesterday's starting 5 is their strongest.

[3toheadmelo]

At least nodope and Chanel don't take it personal when I debate with them about this. Props to them. Can always have healthy debates with them.

I do with sham, I want the worst for him in all situations. If he won the lottery I'd hope he'd lose the ticket, if he stubbed his toe I'd want it to turn out he has to lose it because it's infected, if he got to meet his idol Hell Rell I'd hope Rell would just ignore him trying to sell him an 8ball jacket.

When sham loses, everyone wins.

[god shammgod]

here are the facts. the organization that drafted him ultimately decided he wasn't good at the 5 and gave up a ton of assets to get the best defensive center in the league and move him out of that position. were they hating on him and hoping for him to fail by doing that ? was that their motive ? of course not. but if someone repeats this idea here they're a hater ? is that right ? dear lord.

[3toheadmelo]

Saying KAT should be at the 4 isn't rooting him to fail. That's helping the team be successful versus when he's at the 5.

Then make OG the 5 when they are playing together, problem solved!

After some of the great plays we saw with KAT yesterday, I can't believe all the doom and gloom I am seeing on here.

Randle had to work so freaking hard for his buckets. KAT makes it look so easy.

Issue is that if we play OG at the 5, he's gonna get way more banged up and the guy is pretty injury prone. I also don't like how he moved yesterday at all. I firmly believe we need Mitch or any other rim protecting C next to KAT for it to work like the Timberwolves did with Gobert.

I agree that KAT is a more natural scorer than Randle though. For sure. Not much complaints on that end. Would like to see him use the mid range more though like he did earlier in his career. I don't want KAT to mainly be just a 3 point specialist and driving to the rim. He has a whole bag in the mid post that he doesn't use that much anymore.

[mpharris36]

At least nodope and Chanel don't take it personal when I debate with them about this. Props to them. Can always have healthy debates with them.

I think the KAT at the 4 to KAT at the 5 is legit stuff to have discussions about.

I know your trolling but the Dominican Bargnani stuff is going to get a reaction

[NiceLikeChrist]

I like Randle and Towns so I don’t even know what to say to some of these people

Towns is going to be a 20 10 all star all nba player and people are going to look silly for doubting him based on nothing. He is a 4x all star 2x all nba and will be both again this season. So change gears now in the preseason or look silly soon

I don't think anybody is doubting Towns ability as a player. I also expect him to be a 20/10 guy the same way I expect Julius to be a 20/10/5 guy.

What most are worried about is whether Towns' 20/10 makes this team better than Julius'. Time will tell but I liked how we played with Julius and a traditional defensive minded, glass crashing center. Now we have a completely different team so we're waiting to see how it turns out. Nothing wrong with speculation and guessing though.

[robillionaire]

here are the facts. the organization that drafted him ultimately decided he wasn't good at the 5 and gave up a ton of assets to get the best defensive center in the league and move him out of that position. were they hating on him and hoping for him to fail by doing that ? was that their motive ? of course not. but if someone repeats this idea here they're a hater ? is that right ? dear lord.

The organization that drafted him sucks though

I mean I’m open to the idea but I don’t think we necessarily have to follow their model either

[BadNewsBarnes]

Well. That was some sloppy bullshyt.

I knew we weren't gonna have the chemistry out of the gate. That is what we gave up most in this trade. Starting over with an offensive center is going to take time as well. If we could have had Mitch out there I think it might look closer to what we had. I also don't like Hart with the starters. Anyway.

Deuce is gonna take that leap we all hoped for. You can see he worked on things this summer.
Shamet looked decent. Nice depth piece.
Kolek is so damn tiny! He should play over Cam if he can keep this up.
Did Bridges play tonight?
OG looks fat.
KAT does things Randle could only dream of but, this is gonna take time.
Cam sucks.
Sims sucks.
Precious is Precious. Glad we kept him but, he's trade fodder most likely.

We literally have ONE player from the starting lineup last year. Brunson has to learn how to run an entire new lineup...again. I expect bumps and bruises. They also won't be playing the same way. Shart leaving and Mitch being hurt changed everything about the team. Let's see what Thibs can do with this squad. Leon still has some work to do though because we are thin and need a real backup 5. Sims ain't it and never will be anything more than trade filler.

Mitch sucks.

Calm down...it's a friggen pre-season game, not Game 4 of the playoffs...

Why don't you calm down? Point to one thing in this post that I need to calm down about. You're the one getting all worked up.

I'm actually calm....really. First time they played against a team and not a scrimmage. Yes there are things to iron out. They will iron these things out before game one regular season...and if they don't, you should requote this and I'll freak out as much as you...

[Spree2Houston]

[3toheadmelo]

here are the facts. the organization that drafted him ultimately decided he wasn't good at the 5 and gave up a ton of assets to get the best defensive center in the league and move him out of that position. were they hating on him and hoping for him to fail by doing that ? was that their motive ? of course not. but if someone repeats this idea here they're a hater ? is that right ? dear lord.

Uncle sham being the voice of reason.. once again

[3toheadmelo]

At least nodope and Chanel don't take it personal when I debate with them about this. Props to them. Can always have healthy debates with them.

I think the KAT at the 4 to KAT at the 5 is legit stuff to have discussions about.

I know your trolling but the Dominican Bargnani stuff is going to get a reaction

To be fair I only posted it when I saw iron trolling about Randle again to get back at him

I think it's fair game though, cause people called Randle as Wandle all the time when he played bad. We need something for KAT when he sucks too. Bodega bargnani?