With the 57th pick, the Raptors select Ulrich Chomche

[DreamTeam09]

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They seem to like him establishing himself on either side of the free throw line. On most of the set plays they ran when Ulrich was out there...they threw him the ball on either the left or right side at that spot. He threw that pass on another possession but somehow ended up a turnover or out of bounds.

That seems intentional and part of the development process.

They should bring in Charles Oakley and have him teach Ulrich those patented behind the back bounce passes Oak was famous for (although he threw the ball out of bounds on many of those attempts).

That first pass you're talking about wasn't his fault either, it was a dime to I think battle who fumbled it on the back door cut.
Definitely was intentional, we play our bigs ft line extended to try & hit that back cutter or get a seal with our big wings (RJ/Barnes)

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UC had a ton of fouls and turnovers in just a few minutes. I don't think there is much to see at this point - even for a G-Leaguer who likely will struggle there.

I just wonder why Masai believed in this kid over Yves Missi. Both Cameroonians but one was a clearly more realistic NBA prospect. The Pels no longer had JV so it will be interesting to see if Missi ends up splitting time with Zion at C which would be an impressive development on a playoff team.

I liked the Walter pick but Missi's athleticism and defensive basketball development at Baylor make me think the upside is higher than either Walter or Chomche.

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It will be interesting to track these two over time.

You answered your own question, why get Missi & Chomche when I can get Walter & Chomche(who I hope can be just as good/better than Missi)

Walter was the better player of the two at the same school no?

I think what he was saying is you get Missi & whatever at 57 vs Walter & Chomche. Time will tell, but I think Walter & Chomche is the higher risk/reward situation, so not a bad call. I think the ultimate call on whether it was the right choice will be how Walter looks.

That said, I would have preferred Missi just for the fact it could've made moving Jak easier. Probably a non issue all around though.

[YogurtProducer]

UC had a ton of fouls and turnovers in just a few minutes. I don't think there is much to see at this point - even for a G-Leaguer who likely will struggle there.

I just wonder why Masai believed in this kid over Yves Missi. Both Cameroonians but one was a clearly more realistic NBA prospect. The Pels no longer had JV so it will be interesting to see if Missi ends up splitting time with Zion at C which would be an impressive development on a playoff team.

I liked the Walter pick but Missi's athleticism and defensive basketball development at Baylor make me think the upside is higher than either Walter or Chomche.

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It will be interesting to track these two over time.

You answered your own question, why get Missi & Chomche when I can get Walter & Chomche(who I hope can be just as good/better than Missi)

Walter was the better player of the two at the same school no?

I think what he was saying is you get Missi & whatever at 57 vs Walter & Chomche. Time will tell, but I think Walter & Chomche is the higher risk/reward situation, so not a bad call. I think the ultimate call on whether it was the right choice will be how Walter looks.

That said, I would have preferred Missi just for the fact it could've made moving Jak easier. Probably a non issue all around though.

The sooner you accept that this probably is not happening, the happier you'll be.

As a Baylor guy though, I would have liked Missi as well.

[DreamTeam09]

UC had a ton of fouls and turnovers in just a few minutes. I don't think there is much to see at this point - even for a G-Leaguer who likely will struggle there.

I just wonder why Masai believed in this kid over Yves Missi. Both Cameroonians but one was a clearly more realistic NBA prospect. The Pels no longer had JV so it will be interesting to see if Missi ends up splitting time with Zion at C which would be an impressive development on a playoff team.

I liked the Walter pick but Missi's athleticism and defensive basketball development at Baylor make me think the upside is higher than either Walter or Chomche.

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It will be interesting to track these two over time.

You answered your own question, why get Missi & Chomche when I can get Walter & Chomche(who I hope can be just as good/better than Missi)

Walter was the better player of the two at the same school no?

I think what he was saying is you get Missi & whatever at 57 vs Walter & Chomche. Time will tell, but I think Walter & Chomche is the higher risk/reward situation, so not a bad call. I think the ultimate call on whether it was the right choice will be how Walter looks.

That said, I would have preferred Missi just for the fact it could've made moving Jak easier. Probably a non issue all around though.

I followed that, I'd much rather Walter + Chomche compared to Missi + 57 (not sure anyone better at 57 than Chomche either)
I don't even see the Missi hype tbh, if not Walter, I would've preferred Jaylon Tyson.
Kahman Mulach is out there in 25 possibly for us to target.

[DreamTeam09]

You answered your own question, why get Missi & Chomche when I can get Walter & Chomche(who I hope can be just as good/better than Missi)

Walter was the better player of the two at the same school no?

I think what he was saying is you get Missi & whatever at 57 vs Walter & Chomche. Time will tell, but I think Walter & Chomche is the higher risk/reward situation, so not a bad call. I think the ultimate call on whether it was the right choice will be how Walter looks.

That said, I would have preferred Missi just for the fact it could've made moving Jak easier. Probably a non issue all around though.

The sooner you accept that this probably is not happening, the happier you'll be.

As a Baylor guy though, I would have liked Missi as well.

We picked Walter out of Baylor tho

[YogurtProducer]

I think what he was saying is you get Missi & whatever at 57 vs Walter & Chomche. Time will tell, but I think Walter & Chomche is the higher risk/reward situation, so not a bad call. I think the ultimate call on whether it was the right choice will be how Walter looks.

That said, I would have preferred Missi just for the fact it could've made moving Jak easier. Probably a non issue all around though.

The sooner you accept that this probably is not happening, the happier you'll be.

As a Baylor guy though, I would have liked Missi as well.

We picked Walter out of Baylor tho

I know! I meant both, which obviously was impossible.

[Dalek]

You answered your own question, why get Missi & Chomche when I can get Walter & Chomche(who I hope can be just as good/better than Missi)

Walter was the better player of the two at the same school no?

I think what he was saying is you get Missi & whatever at 57 vs Walter & Chomche. Time will tell, but I think Walter & Chomche is the higher risk/reward situation, so not a bad call. I think the ultimate call on whether it was the right choice will be how Walter looks.

That said, I would have preferred Missi just for the fact it could've made moving Jak easier. Probably a non issue all around though.

The sooner you accept that this probably is not happening, the happier you'll be.

As a Baylor guy though, I would have liked Missi as well.

I accept that Missi is going to be a pretty good player in the league. I felt that he was probably one of the top big man defenders in college last year who clearly could play in the NBA given his shooting improvement - he was up to 70% from the line by the end of the year.

I just find it curious that we still drafted a big from Cameroon who was much more raw and then Masai came out and even said that he essentially believes in Cameroon guys. These two are in the same class so they will inevitably be compared and for whatever reason, Masai passed on Missi.

I like Walter but we seem pretty guard heavy currently and we didn't even work him out. It seems like a weird call from Toronto, but if Walter blows up maybe this is moot.

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I think what he was saying is you get Missi & whatever at 57 vs Walter & Chomche. Time will tell, but I think Walter & Chomche is the higher risk/reward situation, so not a bad call. I think the ultimate call on whether it was the right choice will be how Walter looks.

That said, I would have preferred Missi just for the fact it could've made moving Jak easier. Probably a non issue all around though.

The sooner you accept that this probably is not happening, the happier you'll be.

As a Baylor guy though, I would have liked Missi as well.

I accept that Missi is going to be a pretty good player in the league. I felt that he was probably one of the top big man defenders in college last year who clearly could play in the NBA given his shooting improvement - he was up to 70% from the line by the end of the year.

I just find it curious that we still drafted a big from Cameroon who was much more raw and then Masai came out and even said that he essentially believes in Cameroon guys. These two are in the same class so they will inevitably be compared and for whatever reason, Masai passed on Missi.

I like Walter but we seem pretty guard heavy currently and we didn't even work him out. It seems like a weird call from Toronto, but if Walter blows up maybe this is moot.

I wonder if he sees a higher potential ceiling + 2ish years younger.

[Dalek]

I followed that, I'd much rather Walter + Chomche compared to Missi + 57 (not sure anyone better at 57 than Chomche either) I don't even see the Missi hype tbh, if not Walter, I would've preferred Jaylon Tyson.
Kahman Mulach is out there in 25 possibly for us to target.

I see the logic that if both turn out then it is a brilliant move. I do think we have Gradey and RJ and a bunch of other guards occupying some level of interest like Ochai and Brown. Walter looks like a development project so he doesn't help right away and as a guard you have to be absolutely elite at shooting, which I worry about with him. Chomche is a such a long-shot that is why he likely would have gone undrafted if not for Toronto.

Missi to me was a sure fire C given his defense. He was the anchor of Baylor defense last year and quite a few draft people were high on him as a future defensive star. /edit See his defense from today:

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Khaman Maluach is a name to watch for the future. I still think he will be a two-year Duke guy given how stacked their team is and how young he is.

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I followed that, I'd much rather Walter + Chomche compared to Missi + 57 (not sure anyone better at 57 than Chomche either) I don't even see the Missi hype tbh, if not Walter, I would've preferred Jaylon Tyson.
Kahman Mulach is out there in 25 possibly for us to target.

I see the logic that if both turn out then it is a brilliant move. I do think we have Gradey and RJ and a bunch of other guards occupying some level of interest like Ochai and Brown. Walter looks like a development project so he doesn't help right away and as a guard you have to be absolutely elite at shooting, which I worry about with him. Chomche is a such a long-shot that is why he likely would have gone undrafted if not for Toronto.

Missi to me was a sure fire C given his defense. He was the anchor of Baylor defense last year and quite a few draft people were high on him as a future defensive star. /edit See his defense from today:

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Khaman Maluach is a name to watch for the future. I still think he will be a two-year Duke guy given how stacked their team is and how young he is.

Yeah I still don't see the hype. I mean he's not really 7ft in Missi is he? Yeah strong defender, he actually has a little more face up game then he's being pegged for, but still, he seems like a dime a dozen type of big. Not much offense, solid defensI think Missi was in a different tier as far as the C's go last draft.

Sarr
Clingan
Edey
Ware

After that I think the bigs like Missi & the guy that went to Denver was in another tier where I was madd at missing. Ware and TDS is who I finally settled on draft Day

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I think what he was saying is you get Missi & whatever at 57 vs Walter & Chomche. Time will tell, but I think Walter & Chomche is the higher risk/reward situation, so not a bad call. I think the ultimate call on whether it was the right choice will be how Walter looks.

That said, I would have preferred Missi just for the fact it could've made moving Jak easier. Probably a non issue all around though.

The sooner you accept that this probably is not happening, the happier you'll be.

As a Baylor guy though, I would have liked Missi as well.

I accept that Missi is going to be a pretty good player in the league. I felt that he was probably one of the top big man defenders in college last year who clearly could play in the NBA given his shooting improvement - he was up to 70% from the line by the end of the year.

I just find it curious that we still drafted a big from Cameroon who was much more raw and then Masai came out and even said that he essentially believes in Cameroon guys. These two are in the same class so they will inevitably be compared and for whatever reason, Masai passed on Missi.

I like Walter but we seem pretty guard heavy currently and we didn't even work him out. It seems like a weird call from Toronto, but if Walter blows up maybe this is moot.

Maybe saw similar ceilings but wanted to prioritize getting shooters around Barnes.

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I followed that, I'd much rather Walter + Chomche compared to Missi + 57 (not sure anyone better at 57 than Chomche either) I don't even see the Missi hype tbh, if not Walter, I would've preferred Jaylon Tyson.
Kahman Mulach is out there in 25 possibly for us to target.

I see the logic that if both turn out then it is a brilliant move. I do think we have Gradey and RJ and a bunch of other guards occupying some level of interest like Ochai and Brown. Walter looks like a development project so he doesn't help right away and as a guard you have to be absolutely elite at shooting, which I worry about with him. Chomche is a such a long-shot that is why he likely would have gone undrafted if not for Toronto.

Nothing likely here, he absolutely would have gone undrafted. That year there were only 57 picks total, so we grabed him with the last pick in the draft. Not that I think it makes much of a difference, if anything it seems as though Masai favoured Walter more than anything. My guess for drafting Chomche vs signing him as a UDFA is just a contract control type thing.

I'm not sold on Walter as a shooter either, but a lot of scouts seem to say he's a good shooter and folks mentioned that his %'s in college took a hit from the type of shots he was expected/forced to take as the primary offensive threat. Hopefully they are right, and he has a much better shot as a spot up shooter, damn shame about his shoulder too, would've been nice to get a better idea of that ASAP.

[Dalek]

I followed that, I'd much rather Walter + Chomche compared to Missi + 57 (not sure anyone better at 57 than Chomche either) I don't even see the Missi hype tbh, if not Walter, I would've preferred Jaylon Tyson.
Kahman Mulach is out there in 25 possibly for us to target.

I see the logic that if both turn out then it is a brilliant move. I do think we have Gradey and RJ and a bunch of other guards occupying some level of interest like Ochai and Brown. Walter looks like a development project so he doesn't help right away and as a guard you have to be absolutely elite at shooting, which I worry about with him. Chomche is a such a long-shot that is why he likely would have gone undrafted if not for Toronto.

Missi to me was a sure fire C given his defense. He was the anchor of Baylor defense last year and quite a few draft people were high on him as a future defensive star. /edit See his defense from today:

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Khaman Maluach is a name to watch for the future. I still think he will be a two-year Duke guy given how stacked their team is and how young he is.

Yeah I still don't see the hype. I mean he's not really 7ft in Missi is he? Yeah strong defender, he actually has a little more face up game then he's being pegged for, but still, he seems like a dime a dozen type of big. Not much offense, solid defensI think Missi was in a different tier as far as the C's go last draft.

Sarr
Clingan
Edey
Ware

After that I think the bigs like Missi & the guy that went to Denver was in another tier where I was madd at missing. Ware and TDS is who I finally settled on draft Day

Missi to me is a 7 footer at: 6′ 10.75” barefoot; 7'2 wingspan; and 38 inch vert. The draft was full of big slow big men, but none with the ground coverage of Missi. He is a big who can switch out onto perimeter guys. I will note that Alex Sarr is in his own tier because he can shoot and mix it up on defense. I watched Jak just sit back in the paint on Sarr's threes last night. Sarr will be special in a couple years.

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I had to laugh about keeping things simple for Chomche, like "getting to the team bus on time."

We might just have ourselves the next Timelord.

[Chandan]

Do we even need scottie Barnes with chomche's passing?

[GreatWhiteStiff]

After the failed C prospects of Kokoko and Porter, both for very odd reasons, I have high hopes for this one!

An old man with a stealy eyed grimaced exclaims roughly: "Just don't go around putting him on your future all star team yet, do you hear me, B Ball Jones!"

[bonjovi0308]

No one posted a 905 game thread so I post it here. Tonight Chomche scored 12 pts (5-10), 9 rebounds in 24 mins of playing time. Very promising. He is probably the rookie that has the most upside if all things pan out.

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I had to laugh about keeping things simple for Chomche, like "getting to the team bus on time."

We might just have ourselves the next Timelord.

Sounds like he's 5 years away from being 5 years away according to Darko's expectation. Basically he has the same expectations that a parent would have for their child lol.

[Brinbe]

He's still a teen, so yeah that checks out lol. Have to remember he's the literally the youngest current active player in the entire league.

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He's still a teen, so yeah that checks out lol. Have to remember he's the literally the youngest current active player in the entire league.

I don't think we can make any judgements on him until the end of.the season. Even more realistic is waiting until he is 20+ years old.

This season we will mosly learn about his coachability and his ability to pick things up quickly & put it into practice.

He is the same age as Tmac was. Tmac took 2 years to develop into something useful. Chomche has way less basketball experience than Tmac had at the time. This is a kid that was living in a small village in the middle.if nowhere (in Africa) not too long ago.