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Re: Shaden Sharp out with shoulder injury 

Post#21 » by zzaj » Mon Oct 7, 2024 2:41 pm

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Butter wrote:And in the Draft, if they don't win the Capture the Flag race, guards dominate the top of the talent pool. The Blazers are going to have to go with Best Player Available, and Sharpe may be in the outside looking in.


There are like 5 top tier talent players in the 2025 draft along side Cooper Flagg. The goal should be to get into the top 5. Even if we lose out on Flagg, there are other players that are franchise changing.


Right now, only Cooper and Ace are taller than 6'4". I don't know if I can replay the last decade of Blazer basketball with a Scoot/Edgecombe pairing.
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Re: Shaden Sharp out with shoulder injury 

Post#22 » by BlazersBroncos » Mon Oct 7, 2024 3:16 pm

FWIW - there is a kid in the 2026 draft named AJ Dybantsa who is likely an even better prospect than Flagg. We should keep him on our minds as we will almost certainly still suck by that draft time.
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Re: Shaden Sharp out with shoulder injury 

Post#23 » by Norm2953 » Mon Oct 7, 2024 4:02 pm

One can add Carlos Boozers son into the mix for 2026, assuming he measures out at 6-9 for he's
a more of a power player, as opposed to all these other guys who are perimeter players
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Post#24 » by Walton1one » Mon Oct 7, 2024 6:16 pm

With Sharpe out, I wonder if POR should look to trade for Huerter from SAC?

Thybulle\Reath|Walker for Huerter and (2) 2nd round picks?
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Re: Shaden Sharp out with shoulder injury 

Post#25 » by m0ng0 » Mon Oct 7, 2024 6:34 pm

Walton1one wrote:With Sharpe out, I wonder if POR should look to trade for Huerter from SAC?

Thybulle\Reath|Walker for Huerter and (2) 2nd round picks?


Why? We are set?
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Post#26 » by JRoy » Mon Oct 7, 2024 8:45 pm

Yay, more shots for guys with no future here.
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I was hoping and expecting this to be one of the first replies. You did not disappoint. Jroy have it all.
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Re: Shaden Sharp out with shoulder injury 

Post#27 » by Walton1one » Mon Oct 7, 2024 9:20 pm

1) 3 for 1 opens up 2 roster spots

2) POR gets some draft capital (minor) back in (2) 2nd round picks. POR only has 5-6 over the next 7 years, which is pitiful for a bad team

3) Huerter can actually SHOOT from outside, career 38.2% from 3pt, that is better than any young wing and similar to Simons (38.5% career). Huerter is bigger (6'7 vs 6'3) than Simons and he makes $8/$9 million less over the next 2 years, and oh, probably ok with a bench\6th man role, unlike Simons

4) Huerter is only 26, his contract only has 2 years left on his deal (making $17/$18mil), and frees up POR to deal away Simons ($26/$28mil)

5) Who else is going to step in for that 3rd guard role? Thybulle? Banton? Are you kidding me? One can't shoot and the other can't stop shooting...
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Re: Shaden Sharp out with shoulder injury 

Post#28 » by mighty_duck » Tue Oct 8, 2024 5:14 am

Walton1one wrote:5) Who else is going to step in for that 3rd guard role? Thybulle? Banton? Are you kidding me? One can't shoot and the other can't stop shooting...

Sharpe is only out for 7 games. While his injury history is troublesome for such a young guy, it is a bit premature to write him off just yet.

And yes, for our young team with little playoff hopes, Thybulle and even Banton can grab some minutes for a while. Worst case is we get more ping pong balls. Some would even say that's a win.
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Re: Shaden Sharp out with shoulder injury 

Post#29 » by Wizenheimer » Tue Oct 8, 2024 4:40 pm

mighty_duck wrote:Sharpe is only out for 7 games. While his injury history is troublesome for such a young guy, it is a bit premature to write him off just yet.


the prognosis was out 4-6 weeks. That could put his return around the 1st of December. If that happens, he''ll miss 20 games, not just the 7 games of the most optimistic projection

not only that, he'll be returning to action after missing all of training camp and pre-season. No sugar-coating this...it's a significant set-back
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Re: Shaden Sharp out with shoulder injury 

Post#30 » by zzaj » Tue Oct 8, 2024 5:34 pm

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mighty_duck wrote:Sharpe is only out for 7 games. While his injury history is troublesome for such a young guy, it is a bit premature to write him off just yet.


the prognosis was out 4-6 weeks. That could put his return around the 1st of December. If that happens, he''ll miss 20 games, not just the 7 games of the most optimistic projection

not only that, he'll be returning to action after missing all of training camp and pre-season. No sugar-coating this...it's a significant set-back


Yep, and while I would only expect the Blazers to win 1 or 2 games in that timeframe WITH Sharpe, it's still a big setback. And shoulder labrums (hip labrums too, actually) are typically a nagging injury for any kind of athlete--especially any that use their arms in any significant way.

I'll be honest. I predict 4-5 weeks into the time away, Sharpe will continue to be having issues with it and will require surgery putting him out another good chunk of time.
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Re: Shaden Sharp out with shoulder injury 

Post#31 » by mighty_duck » Tue Oct 8, 2024 8:51 pm

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mighty_duck wrote:Sharpe is only out for 7 games. While his injury history is troublesome for such a young guy, it is a bit premature to write him off just yet.


the prognosis was out 4-6 weeks. That could put his return around the 1st of December. If that happens, he''ll miss 20 games, not just the 7 games of the most optimistic projection

not only that, he'll be returning to action after missing all of training camp and pre-season. No sugar-coating this...it's a significant set-back

The pessimistic projection of 6 weeks from Oct 5th is Nov 16th. You've added another 2 weeks of pessimism on top of that.
But even if he misses 20 games, my points still stands.
1. Thybulle and Banton are good enough to plug that 3rd guard spot, especially for a team that isn't too concerned about winning this year.
2. It is still too early to declare Sharpe a lost cause for the season, and start looking at "long term" replacements like Huerter.

Now if it turns out the shoulder needs surgery and it is another lost season, we can rechart our course.
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Re: Shaden Sharp out with shoulder injury 

Post#32 » by Wizenheimer » Tue Oct 8, 2024 9:03 pm

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mighty_duck wrote:Sharpe is only out for 7 games. While his injury history is troublesome for such a young guy, it is a bit premature to write him off just yet.


the prognosis was out 4-6 weeks. That could put his return around the 1st of December. If that happens, he''ll miss 20 games, not just the 7 games of the most optimistic projection

not only that, he'll be returning to action after missing all of training camp and pre-season. No sugar-coating this...it's a significant set-back

The pessimistic projection of 6 weeks from Oct 5th is Nov 16th. You've added another 2 weeks of pessimism on top of that.
But even if he misses 20 games, my points still stands.
1. Thybulle and Banton are good enough to plug that 3rd guard spot, especially for a team that isn't too concerned about winning this year.
2. It is still too early to declare Sharpe a lost cause for the season, and start looking at "long term" replacements like Huerter.

Now if it turns out the shoulder needs surgery and it is another lost season, we can rechart our course.


I don't believe 6 weeks was a pessimistic projection...it was realistic for a player injuring the same labrum, in the same shoulder, a second time, it two years. Those projections are also for when a player can resume basketball activity.

now, he might be ready to resume activity by Mid-Novemeber, but that does not mean game shape. And again, not only will he have missed training camp and the preseason, he won't have played on an NBA floor since mid-January. If he comes back by mid November, it will have been 10 months since he's played. How long will it take him to get into game shape?
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Re: Shaden Sharp out with shoulder injury 

Post#33 » by BlazersBroncos » Tue Oct 8, 2024 9:14 pm

It might not be that bad but it certainly isnt something you want from a guy who has only flashed and is due for an extension. With our lack of true blue chip talent we basically cant afford to lose Sharpe even if he isnt worth the extension. We are between a rock and a hard place when it comes to paying him and this just muddies the already muddy water.
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Re: Shaden Sharp out with shoulder injury 

Post#34 » by PDXKnight » Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:04 am

BlazersBroncos wrote:It might not be that bad but it certainly isnt something you want from a guy who has only flashed and is due for an extension. With our lack of true blue chip talent we basically cant afford to lose Sharpe even if he isnt worth the extension. We are between a rock and a hard place when it comes to paying him and this just muddies the already muddy water.


Honestly it could work in our favor, his price tag won't be nearly as high. On the same note if he's gonna cost an arm and a leg just let him him rfa and let the market determine his value. But knowing the Blazers we likely bid against ourselves and pay him 30-40 million annually via extension
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Re: Shaden Sharp out with shoulder injury 

Post#35 » by Walton1one » Thu Oct 10, 2024 11:34 pm

I never trust what a team says when it comes to injury timeframe, 9 times out of 10 & unless it is a critical playoff game, players tend to come back later than what the team stated. I expect Sharpe to be the norm here, and if you want a more depressing thought, given that this is the 2nd time he has injured the same shoulder, I would not be the least bit surprised if he eventually has surgery sometime this season, meaning shutting him down for the YEAR....

PDX is right though, most likely this means Sharpe goes to RFA next year, unless POR can get him to agree on a more budget-friendly deal.

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