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Post#1 » by Pacers Forever » Tue Oct 8, 2024 10:55 pm

Thought I would start this for everyone’s observations if you are able to watch the games. With Bally who really knows.
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Post#2 » by Pacers Forever » Wed Oct 9, 2024 1:06 am

I can’t watch the game where I am currently. It appears that the starters did well while the second team relinquished the lead. I see that Carlisle started the second team to begin the second half. I think that is a good move to get them more work.
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Post#3 » by Pacers Forever » Wed Oct 9, 2024 4:27 am

Looking at the box score it appeared that Quenton Jax balled out and is going for the last roster spot. Swider seems to have played well hitting 3’s and rebounding. Hard to tell everything Freeman did playing back up center tonight but I’m sure he was actively hustling.

I haven’t been impressed with Newton who hit a couple of buckets, K. Brown who hit a couple buckets. James Johnson is not a serious player to expect anything from other than coaching.
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Post#4 » by Scoot McGroot » Wed Oct 9, 2024 11:19 am

Wiseman has a role for sure as an offensive counter to Jackson’s defense at the bench center role.

Nembhard is going to be HUGE this year. Played with such simple and powerful confidence and just got anywhere he wanted on the court. And on defense, he was solid switching anywhere. He felt stronger, and more in control?

The lineups felt a little wonky at times, but Myles and Jackson sat out. I think having Myles back, and pushing Wiseman to the bench to platoon situationally with Jackson will make a huge difference there, and it will feel more “normal”.

Swider and QJackson played well off the deep bench. Freeman, too. But it’s real hard to take any solid notes off those late minutes.
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Post#5 » by Pacers Forever » Wed Oct 9, 2024 8:22 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:Wiseman has a role for sure as an offensive counter to Jackson’s defense at the bench center role.

Nembhard is going to be HUGE this year. Played with such simple and powerful confidence and just got anywhere he wanted on the court. And on defense, he was solid switching anywhere. He felt stronger, and more in control?

The lineups felt a little wonky at times, but Myles and Jackson sat out. I think having Myles back, and pushing Wiseman to the bench to platoon situationally with Jackson will make a huge difference there, and it will feel more “normal”.

Swider and QJackson played well off the deep bench. Freeman, too. But it’s real hard to take any solid notes off those late minutes.


I agree 100% that Nembhard is going to be HUGE and break out big time becoming a complete player. Glad the Pacers saw this and responded with some quick $$$ in his young career.

I hope Mathurin doesn’t let Nembhard’s success slow him down mentally. I’m sure it’s hard seeing the spotlight shift off him while injured. Mathurin playing on the second team is a great opportunity this season to break out and showcase his skills. Hopefully he can play within the offense and show defensive growth. It appears already that he will be more aggressive rebounding as I think the coaching is emphasizing to all that improvement is expected there.

My thoughts on Swider is he makes the team and just needs to be a better asset than Doug McDermott was. This team is so deep he feels like an asset worth developing with situational limited minutes. Wiseman could be the same developmental type piece.

It’s refreshing to see bench depth that can actually mature instead of seeing a bench depth that doesn’t play due to the coach favoring veterans like Nate did and their development is derailed.

Kendall Brown is so young and I think he would benefit from another season with the Mad Ants being more of a star with them. I wouldn’t be opposed to him being a two way alongside Q Jax and Freeman. Currently I have Newton as the odd man out, but I could see the Pacers cutting ties with Brown.
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Post#6 » by whatisacenter » Thu Oct 10, 2024 12:41 am

I think your squad is the best situation for Wiseman and hope that he sticks with you guys after the preseason.

The Pacers up and down style will suit him well and he looked to not be overthinking things and reacting much quicker than he did while on the Pistons.

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Post#7 » by Pacers Forever » Fri Oct 11, 2024 1:31 am

Again I didn’t get to see the game on tv. From looking at the box score quickly it appears Nesmith got involved, Mathurin carried the team tonight, and Newton did better. Wiseman 10, and Freeman 9 rebounds is nice to see.
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Post#8 » by Tom White » Fri Oct 11, 2024 1:37 pm

Pacers Forever wrote:Again I didn’t get to see the game on tv. From looking at the box score quickly it appears Nesmith got involved, Mathurin carried the team tonight, and Newton did better. Wiseman 10, and Freeman 9 rebounds is nice to see.


I didn't see it either. The truth is I didn't even know they were playing. A win is always nice, but if you look at the box score, in particular Cleveland's box, you see that the Cavs didn't even play most of their top tier guys. When you see that, the win rings hollow.
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Post#9 » by AussiePacer » Fri Oct 11, 2024 8:10 pm

I watched some of the second half.

Wiseman impressed me. Moves well, good reach.

Freeman has a lot of upside.
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Post#10 » by Pacers Forever » Fri Oct 11, 2024 8:57 pm

AussiePacer wrote:I watched some of the second half.

Wiseman impressed me. Moves well, good reach.

Freeman has a lot of upside.


Yeah Freeman is future help for our second team. Was a nice draft selection taking a chance on a very inexperienced college player with a winners mentality.
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Post#11 » by jowglenn » Sat Oct 12, 2024 2:21 am

I only watched the highlights but definitely good to see Mathurin with a solid game. He's the X factor this season - he brings a different dimension to our offense and if he can start putting it together this team could ascend to a whole new level. A super-scoring sixth man a la Ben Gordon, Jamal Crawford, Lou Williams etc - would be a big piece to have. Or he could move into the starting lineup.

Wiseman looked solid. Freeman was the one guy out of the rando crowd who showed something. He was really out there fighting for it.
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Post#12 » by Tom White » Sat Oct 12, 2024 1:22 pm

jowglenn wrote:He's the X factor this season - he brings a different dimension to our offense and if he can start putting it together this team could ascend to a whole new level.


Seems I remember a number of people saying this same thing last season. Do any of you have a different level of expectations for him this year than you had last year?
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Post#13 » by Wizop » Sat Oct 12, 2024 8:00 pm

Carlisle said nice things about Freeman. Business wise we could just leave him on a two way, but he's outplaying Swider and Brown.
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Post#14 » by Pacers Forever » Mon Oct 14, 2024 2:23 am

Tom White wrote:
jowglenn wrote:He's the X factor this season - he brings a different dimension to our offense and if he can start putting it together this team could ascend to a whole new level.


Seems I remember a number of people saying this same thing last season. Do any of you have a different level of expectations for him this year than you had last year?


In my opinion Tom I think Mathurin will take them almost to another notch but Walker has to contribute more this season for the team to climb higher in the standings. Also the injury bug needs to stay away.
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Post#15 » by Wizop » Mon Oct 14, 2024 2:43 am

The second unit could be TJ, Benn, Walker or Sheppard, Obi, and Jackson or Wiseman. Defense will determine 3 and 5. Sheppard and Jackson can defend but Walker and Wiseman have more size which could allow them to defend bigger opponents.
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Post#16 » by basketballwacko2 » Mon Oct 14, 2024 4:33 am

I like Wiseman at the price we got him for, not if I'd given up the 2nd pick in draft, but getting him for nothing on a minimum contract I'm willing to give him a couple of years with no pressure. Maybe he can learn how to play and play defense.
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Post#17 » by Pacers Forever » Mon Oct 14, 2024 7:29 pm

basketballwacko2 wrote:I like Wiseman at the price we got him for, not if I'd given up the 2nd pick in draft, but getting him for nothing on a minimum contract I'm willing to give him a couple of years with no pressure. Maybe he can learn how to play and play defense.


I feel the same that he can definitely fit in offensively and I think he can rebound.

If he can defend the rim and defend on pick and roll plays he’ll be a steal for a couple of years at the minimum.

Building a complete team is making smart draft choices(Turner & Nembhard), signing free agents who are still growing into their potential(Toppin, Nesmith, & McConnell), not losing on trades(Hali & Siakam ), signing cost effective free agents(Wiseman), and building the collective team composition together towards the goal of winning. Pacer’s front office has so far been spot on in this rebuild.
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Post#18 » by Pacers Forever » Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:05 pm

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Luckily I got to see the starters play at Fan Jam. So tonight it appears I’ll see Myles, Nembhard, and Mathurin will be playing with a lot of bench player minutes. Sure wished I could see Furphy play but he’s still rehabbing his ankle.
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Post#19 » by Pacers Forever » Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:55 pm

First quarter Pacers couldn’t buy a bucket. Sheppard came in and instant defense from him plus offense. Mathurin looking rough on defense his stat line 1 assist zero rebounds and zero points with 2 fouls. Walker 2 rebounds 1 assist no points looks better than Benn. I Jax looking good in his minutes. Newton I’m still not impressed with. Freeman rebounding and moves good. Turner impressive on the boards. Nembhard quiet but nothing wrong.
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Post#20 » by basketballwacko2 » Tue Oct 15, 2024 1:34 am

Pacers Forever wrote:
basketballwacko2 wrote:I like Wiseman at the price we got him for, not if I'd given up the 2nd pick in draft, but getting him for nothing on a minimum contract I'm willing to give him a couple of years with no pressure. Maybe he can learn how to play and play defense.


I feel the same that he can definitely fit in offensively and I think he can rebound.

If he can defend the rim and defend on pick and roll plays he’ll be a steal for a couple of years at the minimum.

Building a complete team is making smart draft choices(Turner & Nembhard), signing free agents who are still growing into their potential(Toppin, Nesmith, & McConnell), not losing on trades(Hali & Siakam ), signing cost effective free agents(Wiseman), and building the collective team composition together towards the goal of winning. Pacer’s front office has so far been spot on in this rebuild.


I think they have done ok but the 2017, 2018 and 2019 drafts were pretty terrible.

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