2024 NBA Draft Thread

[clyde21]

How many rookie starters are we expecting? 1 or 2?

Last years top 10 might only have 3-4 for year 2.

for last year Wemby, Scoot, Miller and Ausar are all entering the year starting. Amen is behind FVV so he won't start but should get plenty of mins, same with AB and both might be starting sooner rather than later, Bilal might also be starting half way thru the year if the Wiz decide to trade Kuz away.

how many minutes these guys play is way more important than if they are starting at this point.

[bigboi]

Flagg looked mid grade. Yall can’t be serious with this hype lmao

[babyjax13]

How many rookie starters are we expecting? 1 or 2?

Last years top 10 might only have 3-4 for year 2.

for last year Wemby, Scoot, Miller and Ausar are all entering the year starting. Amen is behind FVV so he won't start but should get plenty of mins, same with AB and both might be starting sooner rather than later, Bilal might also be starting half way thru the year if the Wiz decide to trade Kuz away.

how many minutes these guys play is way more important than if they are starting at this point.

I think Washington traded Avdija to start Bilal. They also started him the last 15ish games he played, so he's got a good chance of being a starter this year IMO.

[FarBeyondDriven]

How many rookie starters are we expecting? 1 or 2?

Last years top 10 might only have 3-4 for year 2.

From the first game?

1) ATL Zaccharie Risacher - I doubt he starts over Hunter/Bogdanovic/Daniels/Johnson [whoever could start 2-4].
2) WAS Alex Sarr - I think he starts at the 4 next to Val. I like Poole off the bench and Brogdon/Kispert/Kuzma/Sarr/Val as the starters.
3) HOU Reed Sheppard - He won't start but he could easily be ROY. No doubt the most NBA ready perimeter player in this draft. Going to be one of the best shooters in the NBA Day 1 and a neutral defender who creates a ton of turnovers while being a + playmaker.
4) SAS Stephon Castle - He isn't starting over CP3/Tre, isn't starting over Vassell and then at the 3/4 the Spurs have Barnes/Sochan/Keldon.
5) DET Ron Holland - Worse player than Ausar and the team is desperate for spacing around Cade/Ausar/Duren. I expect Harris/Stewart to start.
6) CHO Tidjane Salaün - Talk about a prospect who is 2 years away from being 2 years away No shot he starts, though down the road once Ball gets injured, he could make some starts if Charlotte see's themselves out of the Play-In discussion.
7) POR Donovan Clingan - He can't start over Ayton, but he is NBA ready to start [He would start for New Orleans, for example].
8) SAS Rob Dillingham - He will be starting for the Iowa Wolves until Thanksgiving. Won't be starting for the deepest/2nd deepest team in the NBA.
9) MEM Zach Edey - Most NBA ready prospect in the Draft. He will be starting and be a nightmare for smaller teams and teams with smaller and slower Centers [See Houston, Sacramento, ect].
10) UTA Cody Williams - He starts when the tank starts.

Non-Top 10
12) SAC Devin Carter - He had a chance to start but was injured.
15) Kel'el Ware - I think he starts some games next to Bam. Very talented player who had questions regarding his mentality and approach, but all things we have seen from Miami have been resoundingly positive.
17) Dalton Knecht - If the Lakers get an injury bug or he shows out as a 40%+ 3P shooter, he could start some games at the 3.
32) Kyle Filipowski - See Cody Williams.

Washington has already named Poole the starting point guard. Not that it matters much, but re: the lineup you prefer. Basically agree with this list, but could see Holland being able to score at some volume and that being preferable to Ausar in the starting lineup (probably a better shooter than Ausar, too).

during the Pistons broadcast they mentioned having a meeting with the league and NBAPA to discuss Ausar's medical situation. Blood clots are no joke and he's out for training camp. Pistons signed vets that would have blocked Holland and maybe even Ausar so even with Ausar out there's no chance Holland starts (barring injury to vets of course) until after the trade deadline. But knowing this awful organization, they'll fail to open up space for Holland even then so I wouldn't count on it.

[Catchall]

I think Cody Williams and Ron Holland both have reasonable chances to start, though possibly partway through the season. Same for Sarr.

Cody Williams is a good defender and good ball mover, but he's not ready to score at the NBA level. He looks to be comfortable shooting from a few spots on the floor and uncomfortable everywhere else. Combine that with his need to develop physically, and I have a hard time seeing him as a starter at any point this year. He's also the backup 3 behind Lauri, so there isn't a ready path for him to start either.

[babyjax13]

I think Cody Williams and Ron Holland both have reasonable chances to start, though possibly partway through the season. Same for Sarr.

Cody Williams is a good defender and good ball mover, but he's not ready to score at the NBA level. He looks to be comfortable shooting from a few spots on the floor and uncomfortable everywhere else. Combine that with his need to develop physically, and I have a hard time seeing him as a starter at any point this year. He's also the backup 3 behind Lauri, so there isn't a ready path for him to start either.

I think some things probably have to happen for him to get there, but all are within the realm of possibility (don't think all have to happen, just that these are some factors that could contribute):

1. getting more comfortable playing at NBA speed
2. trading Kessler and moving Hendricks to center and Lauri to PF
3. deciding that Lauri is best at PF and Williams is a better player/prospect than Hendricks
4. injury
5. shutting down Lauri for part of the season

[Catchall]

I think Cody Williams and Ron Holland both have reasonable chances to start, though possibly partway through the season. Same for Sarr.

Cody Williams is a good defender and good ball mover, but he's not ready to score at the NBA level. He looks to be comfortable shooting from a few spots on the floor and uncomfortable everywhere else. Combine that with his need to develop physically, and I have a hard time seeing him as a starter at any point this year. He's also the backup 3 behind Lauri, so there isn't a ready path for him to start either.

I think some things probably have to happen for him to get there, but all are within the realm of possibility (don't think all have to happen, just that these are some factors that could contribute):

1. getting more comfortable playing at NBA speed
2. trading Kessler and moving Hendricks to center and Lauri to PF
3. deciding that Lauri is best at PF and Williams is a better player/prospect than Hendricks
4. injury
5. shutting down Lauri for part of the season

Cody handles, passes and cuts better than Hendricks. That's for sure. He's also emerging as the Jazz's favorite POA defender.

[Saints14]

Ryan Dunn went 3-5 on 3s including a smooth pull-up in transition…if that’s close to real he’s the steal of the draft and could be a real X factor this season

[Big J]

Ryan Dunn went 3-5 on 3s including a smooth pull-up in transition…if that’s close to real he’s the steal of the draft and could be a real X factor this season

I need to disassociate him with the guy from Jackass. That's all I can think of when I see his name.

[babyjax13]

Ryan Dunn went 3-5 on 3s including a smooth pull-up in transition…if that’s close to real he’s the steal of the draft and could be a real X factor this season

Yah if the shooting is real then he is going to be a top 10 player from this draft. We will see across a larger sample, but there were whispers pre draft that his shooting in workouts was much improved and that he had a confidence hit in Virginia. Heard on locked on nba draft fwiw

[FarBeyondDriven]

I've been really impressed with some of these early performances.

[clyde21]

Ware continues to make people look [redacted]

maybe if he liked bball

[tundraknight]

Tyler Kolek looking like he should’ve been a lottery pick instead of the 2nd round.

[zimpy27]

Knecht looks better on defense and rebounding than anticipated..

[babyjax13]

In 2020-21 these were some of the preseason rookie standouts:

Jared Butler: 18p 1r 4a 49/33/67 shooting
Trey Murphy: 18p 7r 2a 43/53/90 shooting
James Bouknight 16p 3r 1a 45/20/93 shooting
Scottie Barnes 10p 5r 6a 47/0/71 shooting + 1s/1b
Micah Potter 10p 11r 1a 44/42/100 shooting
Alperin Sengun 10p 8r 2a 46/0/72 shooting
Evan Mobley 8p 8r 2a 1s 2b 43/25/63 shooting

And some duds
Jalen Johnson 3p 3r 1a 24/0/50 shooting
Franz Wagner 5p 2r 2a 26/29/100 shooting
Jalen Suggs 5p 4r 3a 27/20/33 shooting

The best performers are pretty random if you look at them, though it is a bit more populated with future pros than the worst ... but some really great players have terrible preseasons. Basically, I'd take this with a grain of salt b/c it does not look like there is a tight correlation between good preseason and good rookie year, or good preseason and good career.

[BlazersBroncos]

It means little but Dunn hitting 3's this early is insane to me. I couldnt elevate him from the high SR on my board b/c I truly, fully thought his shot was fully broken with little hope of developing. He showed little improvement from even FT in college being around 50%. If he can shoot, he is going to be a hell of a steal. It would be one of the quickest shot improvements in NBA history if he can hit the 3 this year.

[clyde21]

Cody Williams has looked like a non entity so far, really needs to work on his body

[babyjax13]

It means little but Dunn hitting 3's this early is insane to me. I couldnt elevate him from the high SR on my board b/c I truly, fully thought his shot was fully broken with little hope of developing. He showed little improvement from even FT in college being around 50%. If he can shoot, he is going to be a hell of a steal. It would be one of the quickest shot improvements in NBA history if he can hit the 3 this year.

I do completely agree with this.

[HadAnEffectHere]

Cody Williams has looked like a non entity so far, really needs to work on his body

He struggled so much in FIBA and college and the all-star circuit because

1. He's too weak
2. He's too unathletic
3. Can't dribble well enough to beat high level competition
4. Jumpshot is too low and slow to get off

And all of these issues are still very apparent in the NBA.

He just needs a complete body and jumpshot transformation.

[FarBeyondDriven]

Cody Williams has looked like a non entity so far, really needs to work on his body

He struggled so much in FIBA and college and the all-star circuit because

1. He's too weak
2. He's too unathletic
3. Can't dribble well enough to beat high level competition
4. Jumpshot is too low and slow to get off

And all of these issues are still very apparent in the NBA.

He just needs a complete body and jumpshot transformation.

it was always the biggest red flag, his personality and body. They can afford to bring him along slowly but you can't fix his mental. He's going to have to completely change his mindset if he ever wants to succeed.