2024-2025 Preseason Game 2: Orlando Magic (0-1) at San Antonio Spurs (0-1) - 8pm

[tiderulz]

loved what i saw from black and jett

really concerned with Franz's 3 point shooting. it looks so flat to me. Wouldnt be surprised if he takes a step back this year. Teams know that with him, you just need to defend the drive since it doesnt look like hes developed an in between game and/or the three point shot.

I have concerns with suggs as the PG, his dribble has not developed enough yet where he can handle a half court defense. Plus he still gets sped up sometimes. honestly black looks more controlled and organized.

still its just preseason, cant over react just yet

his shooting already took a step back last year.

[pepe1991]

Cole Anthony is so erratic! He shot two air balls, doesn't take care of the basketball and more importantly doesn't let the game come to him! Take him out the rotation coach! TDS has more poise then him. Jett Howard and Goga played amazing by the way!

Does Cole Anthony have ADD? Dude needs to settle down!

Cole is only person aside from Banchero and Franz capable of keeping dribble alive for more than 2 sec under any sort of pressure.

Is he perfect? No. But closes thing to ballhandler second unit will find

[RichCollab]

I feel pretty good at the moment.

Black and Jett look much better with better players around them.

TDS seems like he will be a solid rotational player.

I’m not worried about Franz. He does so much outside of shooting and I still have a high level of confidence for him figuring it out.

Goga’s weight lost seems to have helped him.

Cole is concerning but he really hasn’t been great lately since the start of last year. Cole’s importance is his handle, play making, and self creation which only Paolo and Franz have beyond him. But, we haven’t been depending on Cole much recently anyway.

I’m a WCF fan and I’m not freaking out over a sprained ankle. We have Goga to step in when needed.

Harris to me is a break glass as needed to plug a whole. I’m ok he is on the roster and don’t see him as a hindrance to our young players.

KCP will be fine.

Suggs will be fine no matter how the lastest experiment works out. I do want him extended before the season starts but we can always match.

[Knightro]

They’re not going to do it right before the season, but this team would benefit quite a bit from a “trade 3 solid guys to get 1 very good guy” kind of a deal.

Depth is great and it’s going to help them navigate through injuries and all that, but it’s also a bit frustrating to have 13 guys who all seem capable of playing rotation minutes knowing that at least three of them aren’t going to play when everyone is available.

[thelead]

They’re not going to do it right before the season, but this team would benefit quite a bit from a “trade 3 solid guys to get 1 very good guy” kind of a deal.

Depth is great and it’s going to help them navigate through injuries and all that, but it’s also a bit frustrating to have 13 guys who all seem capable of playing rotation minutes knowing that at least three of them aren’t going to play when everyone is available.

I think they would have pulled the trigger on Dejounte if they thought he would fit the culture. Sadly, I can’t blame them for passing on him.

[VFX]

Hate to say it but I think we need to move Cole and Gary.

Jett and AB’s development is just too crucial to be messing around with deep bench minutes. I know this is just preseason game, but those guys are arguably negligible replacements already anyway.

[eyriq]

They’re not going to do it right before the season, but this team would benefit quite a bit from a “trade 3 solid guys to get 1 very good guy” kind of a deal.

Depth is great and it’s going to help them navigate through injuries and all that, but it’s also a bit frustrating to have 13 guys who all seem capable of playing rotation minutes knowing that at least three of them aren’t going to play when everyone is available.

I struggle to identify what we need to target.

[basketballRob]

Hate to say it but I think we need to move Cole and Gary.

Jett and AB’s development is just too crucial to be messing around with deep bench minutes. I know this is just preseason game, but those guys are arguably negligible replacements already anyway.

I'd lump Caleb into the trade, too. We need a ball handling 2/3. Who can defend and shoot 3's. That's all.

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[Knightro]

They’re not going to do it right before the season, but this team would benefit quite a bit from a “trade 3 solid guys to get 1 very good guy” kind of a deal.

Depth is great and it’s going to help them navigate through injuries and all that, but it’s also a bit frustrating to have 13 guys who all seem capable of playing rotation minutes knowing that at least three of them aren’t going to play when everyone is available.

I struggle to identify what we need to target.

That's what makes it easier/more fun though.

The only things they don't *need* are starting SF and starting PF.

Yes, they have capable veterans and/or intriguing young guys all throughout the roster at the other spots, but every other player on the roster *could* be upgraded with a better player with the right trade.

They're wide open in what they can pursue. Point guards, shooting guards, wings, centers. Whatever the case.

[RichCollab]

They’re not going to do it right before the season, but this team would benefit quite a bit from a “trade 3 solid guys to get 1 very good guy” kind of a deal.

Depth is great and it’s going to help them navigate through injuries and all that, but it’s also a bit frustrating to have 13 guys who all seem capable of playing rotation minutes knowing that at least three of them aren’t going to play when everyone is available.

It takes 2 to the tango.

Define who you mean by solid? And why is going to want to give up a good player for that?

[RichCollab]

Hate to say it but I think we need to move Cole and Gary.

Jett and AB’s development is just too crucial to be messing around with deep bench minutes. I know this is just preseason game, but those guys are arguably negligible replacements already anyway.

No one wants Gary.

[Knightro]

Hate to say it but I think we need to move Cole and Gary.

Jett and AB’s development is just too crucial to be messing around with deep bench minutes. I know this is just preseason game, but those guys are arguably negligible replacements already anyway.

No one wants Gary.

He’s a salary filler. The Magic have multiple first rounders and plenty of moveable contracts to match salaries.

[pepe1991]

People struggle to idenfity what we need to target?

a ***** POINT *** GUARD

For f*** sake there are plays where Magic can't even cross ball through half court let alone set something close to offensive set.
That 19 years old boy from San Antonio from draft would probably instally become best Magic PG since Jameer.


We degraged this team with worthless point guards ( and incapable shooters) so much that people now think NBA player is instant star if he can make 2 shots in a row from deep. And anybody who can make 1 good pass once a week is "great playmaker".

[VFX]

Yeah I think Orlando should be looking to trade Cole, Gary, and possibly Carter for a legitimate starting point guard. Attach picks if necessary.

xxx/AB
Suggs/Jett
Franz/KCP
Paolo/Isaac
Goga/Moe

Just roll with that moving forward. Jett Howard is 6’8 is he can switch with KCP and TDS for backup minutes at the wing. Houstan isn’t an nba player, but he can fill in for injury minutes. That makes the most sense to me.

[ibraheim718]

Yeah I think Orlando should be looking to trade Cole, Gary, and possibly Carter for a legitimate starting point guard. Attach picks if necessary.

xxx/AB
Suggs/Jett
Franz/KCP
Paolo/Isaac
Goga/Moe

Just roll with that moving forward. Jett Howard is 6’8 is he can switch with KCP and TDS for backup minutes at the wing. Houstan isn’t an nba player, but he can fill in for injury minutes. That makes the most sense to me.

Which PG are they trading for?

I don't think they're going to trade for anybody. They have a young team that needs room and time to grow. That's the plan.

Eventually the starting back court will be Suggs and Black. That's been their plan since they drafted Black.

[GelbeWand09]

People struggle to idenfity what we need to target?

a ***** POINT *** GUARD

For f*** sake there are plays where Magic can't even cross ball through half court let alone set something close to offensive set.
That 19 years old boy from San Antonio from draft would probably instally become best Magic PG since Jameer.


We degraged this team with worthless point guards ( and incapable shooters) so much that people now think NBA player is instant star if he can make 2 shots in a row from deep. And anybody who can make 1 good pass once a week is "great playmaker".

Just like before Fultz was a good passer because he looked halfway ok in comparison to the ineptitude of the rest of our ''PG'', despite being one of the worst passers/playmakers among real PG's in the leaque.

[mattdelray1220]

Yeah I think Orlando should be looking to trade Cole, Gary, and possibly Carter for a legitimate starting point guard. Attach picks if necessary.

xxx/AB
Suggs/Jett
Franz/KCP
Paolo/Isaac
Goga/Moe

Just roll with that moving forward. Jett Howard is 6’8 is he can switch with KCP and TDS for backup minutes at the wing. Houstan isn’t an nba player, but he can fill in for injury minutes. That makes the most sense to me.

Which PG are they trading for?

I don't think they're going to trade for anybody. They have a young team that needs room and time to grow. That's the plan.

Eventually the starting back court will be Suggs and Black. That's been their plan since they drafted Black.

De'Aaron Fox is the player they should be targeting. I believe this is the last year of evaluation before the team goes "all in". The flexibility this team has is great. Tons of young talent, draft picks and guys on good contracts. I do not see a trade happening at all this year. Do not be surprised if next year we see a 3 + multiple draft picks for someone like Fox. AB JI Cole + 2 1sts. Something like that.

[RichCollab]

Yeah I think Orlando should be looking to trade Cole, Gary, and possibly Carter for a legitimate starting point guard. Attach picks if necessary.

xxx/AB
Suggs/Jett
Franz/KCP
Paolo/Isaac
Goga/Moe

Just roll with that moving forward. Jett Howard is 6’8 is he can switch with KCP and TDS for backup minutes at the wing. Houstan isn’t an nba player, but he can fill in for injury minutes. That makes the most sense to me.

We can’t trade WCJ until the offseason now given terms of extension.

Cole and Gary are likely more of a negative. Our picks are late 1st rounders.

Getting a starting PG who fits likely isn’t out there for what we are willing to currently offer.

Pretty sure we rolling with what we got until next offseason.

[RichCollab]

Best case scenario for the 1st half of the season is as follows:

Suggs / Black
KCP / Cole
Franz / Jett or TDS
Paolo / JI
WCJ / Moe

[Knightro]

Yeah I think Orlando should be looking to trade Cole, Gary, and possibly Carter for a legitimate starting point guard. Attach picks if necessary.

xxx/AB
Suggs/Jett
Franz/KCP
Paolo/Isaac
Goga/Moe

Just roll with that moving forward. Jett Howard is 6’8 is he can switch with KCP and TDS for backup minutes at the wing. Houstan isn’t an nba player, but he can fill in for injury minutes. That makes the most sense to me.

Carter, unfortunately, can’t be traded until this summer. 6 month restriction on trading guys who sign extensions which takes him past this year’s trade deadline.

Cole and Gary combined make 20M though, throw in some firsts and maybe one of Jett or TDS and you could get someone quite good I bet.