Preseason thread

[BlacJacMac]

When Rudy first arrived, I thought he would really help DLo. I thought Gobert would make up for DLo’s defensive lapses, and since he was already a good passer, so I thought we would see a lot of beautiful pick-and-roll lobs. Instead, DLo was never able (or maybe “willing?”) to throw Rudy lobs, and insisted on throwing him bounce passes that he always fumbled.

I think everyone saw how the D'Lo/Jarrett Allen duo absolutely thrive and figured it would be the same here.

Unfortunately the difference is Allen has terrific hands and a HUGE catch radius. 2 things Rudy struggles with. Combine that with D'Lo not being a particularly accurate passer and Rudy had no chance to bail him out like Allen would.

[fattymcgee]

You’ve moved on from worrying about Dillingham’s PG skills every chance you get?

NAW isn’t a backup PG, and we need one. I still think DDV will end up in that role this year, but Dilly being PG3 and fighting for PG2 is good for his development.

LOL you went on for pages about how you were concerned about Dilly’s PG skills.

13 assists to 1 turnover, I'd be concerned too.

[Neeva]

When Rudy first arrived, I thought he would really help DLo. I thought Gobert would make up for DLo’s defensive lapses, and since he was already a good passer, so I thought we would see a lot of beautiful pick-and-roll lobs. Instead, DLo was never able (or maybe “willing?”) to throw Rudy lobs, and insisted on throwing him bounce passes that he always fumbled.

I think everyone saw how the D'Lo/Jarrett Allen duo absolutely thrive and figured it would be the same here.

Unfortunately the difference is Allen has terrific hands and a HUGE catch radius. 2 things Rudy struggles with. Combine that with D'Lo not being a particularly accurate passer and Rudy had no chance to bail him out like Allen would.

DLO is one of the biggest frauds ever he rode a few months hot streak into an East All Star replacement appearance and a max contract

[winforlose]

NAW isn’t a backup PG, and we need one. I still think DDV will end up in that role this year, but Dilly being PG3 and fighting for PG2 is good for his development.

LOL you went on for pages about how you were concerned about Dilly’s PG skills.

13 assists to 1 turnover, I'd be concerned too.

I know right. The sample size is just so huge, and against such intense defense. I think we both can feel great about him starting against Denver or OKC if Mike is out

[BlacJacMac]

LOL you went on for pages about how you were concerned about Dilly’s PG skills.

13 assists to 1 turnover, I'd be concerned too.

I know right. The sample size is just so huge, and against such intense defense. I think we both can feel great about him starting against Denver or OKC if Mike is out

Its nothing new. He had a 29.52 AST% vs a 13.54 TO% in college.

That stacks up with anyone. Compare him to the other 1st round PGs or Combos:

Sheppard (#3 overall): 24.12 AST% vs a 18.34 TO%
Castle (#4 overall): 18.38 AST% vs a 12.97 TO%
McCain (#16 overall): 11.022 AST% vs a 10.06 TO%
Collier (#29 overall): 30.57 AST% vs a 18.65 TO%

[winforlose]

13 assists to 1 turnover, I'd be concerned too.

I know right. The sample size is just so huge, and against such intense defense. I think we both can feel great about him starting against Denver or OKC if Mike is out

Its nothing new. He had a 29.52 AST% vs a 13.54 TO% in college.

That stacks up with anyone. Compare him to the other 1st round PGs or Combos:

Sheppard (#3 overall): 24.12 AST% vs a 18.34 TO%
Castle (#4 overall): 18.38 AST% vs a 12.97 TO%
McCain (#16 overall): 11.022 AST% vs a 10.06 TO%
Collier (#29 overall): 30.57 AST% vs a 18.65 TO%

I didn’t mention it earlier (or really at all in a long while,) because I am fine with Dilly being PG3. As long as we have someone other than NAW or Ant who can start for Mike I am good. I see a lot of potential in Dilly, he just needs to bulk up, improve his defense, and get some less high leverage run. I think Iowa would be great for him because it accomplishes all 3 at a higher level than College. That said, I don’t hate him as man 9 or 10 in the rotation so long as Minott also gets some run. TSJ has not looked as NBA ready as I hoped, and Miller has looked unspectacular. Garza is probably man 11 and Jingles man 12. KBD isn’t bad at 13, Miller and TSJ are 14 and 15 but with the most room to move.

[younggunsmn]

I'm feeling better about Dillingham as a backup PG after 2 preseason games than I was after summer league, but the level of competition hasn't been great in the preseason either. But I'm encouraged by the mature floor game so far for a guy that young.

Finch hasn't put Dante at the 1 yet, but I think we will see more than a little bit of that going forward as he gets more comfortable with the offense because I think that will give us some of our best lineups, especially once Randle starts playing.

I think (hope) last game Finch was just giving NAW another look there to see if anything had improved from last year.
My vision for the rotation is Jaden and NAW being subbed directly for each other at the 3 as primary POA defender, and Dante/Mike/Ant splitting the 1/2 minutes to start with Dillingham getting spot minutes except for when Conley sits out when he gets 20+.
NAW should never be bringing the ball up the court or initiating the offense.

Ingles can take some of NAW's minutes when having a POA defender is less important or even smallball stretch 4.

[winforlose]

I'm feeling better about Dillingham as a backup PG after 2 preseason games than I was after summer league, but the level of competition hasn't been great in the preseason either. But I'm encouraged by the mature floor game so far for a guy that young.

Finch hasn't put Dante at the 1 yet, but I think we will see more than a little bit of that going forward as he gets more comfortable with the offense because I think that will give us some of our best lineups, especially once Randle starts playing.

I think (hope) last game Finch was just giving NAW another look there to see if anything had improved from last year.
My vision for the rotation is Jaden and NAW being subbed directly for each other at the 3 as primary POA defender, and Dante/Mike/Ant splitting the 1/2 minutes to start with Dillingham getting spot minutes except for when Conley sits out when he gets 20+.
NAW should never be bringing the ball up the court or initiating the offense.

Ingles can take some of NAW's minutes when having a POA defender is less important or even smallball stretch 4.

Minott is breathing down Jingles neck. Especially if he can backup the 4 and defend 2-4.

[life_saver]

Watched highlights...Dillingham's passing really stands out

[KGdaBom]

I know right. The sample size is just so huge, and against such intense defense. I think we both can feel great about him starting against Denver or OKC if Mike is out

Its nothing new. He had a 29.52 AST% vs a 13.54 TO% in college.

That stacks up with anyone. Compare him to the other 1st round PGs or Combos:

Sheppard (#3 overall): 24.12 AST% vs a 18.34 TO%
Castle (#4 overall): 18.38 AST% vs a 12.97 TO%
McCain (#16 overall): 11.022 AST% vs a 10.06 TO%
Collier (#29 overall): 30.57 AST% vs a 18.65 TO%

I didn’t mention it earlier (or really at all in a long while,) because I am fine with Dilly being PG3. As long as we have someone other than NAW or Ant who can start for Mike I am good. I see a lot of potential in Dilly, he just needs to bulk up, improve his defense, and get some less high leverage run. I think Iowa would be great for him because it accomplishes all 3 at a higher level than College. That said, I don’t hate him as man 9 or 10 in the rotation so long as Minott also gets some run. TSJ has not looked as NBA ready as I hoped, and Miller has looked unspectacular. Garza is probably man 11 and Jingles man 12. KBD isn’t bad at 13, Miller and TSJ are 14 and 15 but with the most room to move.

We just disagree so much. I would be very happy if Dilly doesn't get a single minute in the G this season or ever.

[KGdaBom]

Watched highlights...Dillingham's passing really stands out

It really does.

[winforlose]

Its nothing new. He had a 29.52 AST% vs a 13.54 TO% in college.

That stacks up with anyone. Compare him to the other 1st round PGs or Combos:

Sheppard (#3 overall): 24.12 AST% vs a 18.34 TO%
Castle (#4 overall): 18.38 AST% vs a 12.97 TO%
McCain (#16 overall): 11.022 AST% vs a 10.06 TO%
Collier (#29 overall): 30.57 AST% vs a 18.65 TO%

I didn’t mention it earlier (or really at all in a long while,) because I am fine with Dilly being PG3. As long as we have someone other than NAW or Ant who can start for Mike I am good. I see a lot of potential in Dilly, he just needs to bulk up, improve his defense, and get some less high leverage run. I think Iowa would be great for him because it accomplishes all 3 at a higher level than College. That said, I don’t hate him as man 9 or 10 in the rotation so long as Minott also gets some run. TSJ has not looked as NBA ready as I hoped, and Miller has looked unspectacular. Garza is probably man 11 and Jingles man 12. KBD isn’t bad at 13, Miller and TSJ are 14 and 15 but with the most room to move.

We just disagree so much. I would be very happy if Dilly doesn't get a single minute in the G this season or ever.

I get that you would rather develop him quickly and take the lumps. I worry his lack of defense will hurt his standing with the locker room, while his small stature will get him hurt against bigger bodies. Not to mention that he cannot share the floor with another poor defender like Garza, Ingles, or anyone else who struggles (maybe Randle won’t be 100% given the slow way they are bringing him along.) Building good habits and getting tons of minutes against weaker competition will be good for Dilly. He is only 19.

[KGdaBom]

I didn’t mention it earlier (or really at all in a long while,) because I am fine with Dilly being PG3. As long as we have someone other than NAW or Ant who can start for Mike I am good. I see a lot of potential in Dilly, he just needs to bulk up, improve his defense, and get some less high leverage run. I think Iowa would be great for him because it accomplishes all 3 at a higher level than College. That said, I don’t hate him as man 9 or 10 in the rotation so long as Minott also gets some run. TSJ has not looked as NBA ready as I hoped, and Miller has looked unspectacular. Garza is probably man 11 and Jingles man 12. KBD isn’t bad at 13, Miller and TSJ are 14 and 15 but with the most room to move.

We just disagree so much. I would be very happy if Dilly doesn't get a single minute in the G this season or ever.

I get that you would rather develop him quickly and take the lumps. I worry his lack of defense will hurt his standing with the locker room, while his small stature will get him hurt against bigger bodies. Not to mention that he cannot share the floor with another poor defender like Garza, Ingles, or anyone else who struggles (maybe Randle won’t be 100% given the slow way they are bringing him along.)Building good habits and getting tons of minutes against weaker competition will be good for Dilly. He is only 19.

We disagree.

[Dewey]

TC did not move up to draft him … then send him to D-League. Right or wrong. If he has some dimes and low turnovers, he’ll get in the rotation

[winforlose]

TC did not move up to draft him … then send him to D-League. Right or wrong. If he has some dimes and low turnovers, he’ll get in the rotation

That is not so uncommon. The dude is 143 pounds and cannot defend. In any case, Minott and Dilly are probably 9 and 10. Garza and Jingles might usurp depending on need.

[shrink]

TC did not move up to draft him … then send him to D-League. Right or wrong. If he has some dimes and low turnovers, he’ll get in the rotation

Maybe, but he made the decision to move up for Dillingham long before he thought we would have DiVincenzo on the roster too, and he’s going to want to feed DDV minutes.

I see our guards as Ant, Conley, DiVincenzo, NAW. Who gets fifth guard minute scraps? Ready Shannon or Big Investment Dillingham?

[KGdaBom]

TC did not move up to draft him … then send him to D-League. Right or wrong. If he has some dimes and low turnovers, he’ll get in the rotation

That is not so uncommon. The dude is 143 pounds and cannot defend. In any case, Minott and Dilly are probably 9 and 10. Garza and Jingles might usurp depending on need.

Either you're unbelievably wrong, using hyperbole or flat out lying. Dillingham weighed 163 at the draft testing. Combine or whatever they call it.

[KGdaBom]

TC did not move up to draft him … then send him to D-League. Right or wrong. If he has some dimes and low turnovers, he’ll get in the rotation

Maybe, but he made the decision to move up for Dillingham long before he thought we would have DiVincenzo on the roster too, and he’s going to want to feed DDV minutes.

I see our guards as Ant, Conley, DiVincenzo, NAW. Who gets fifth guard minute scraps? Ready Shannon or Big Investment Dillingham?

Dilly should get the backup PG minutes. He's the only other PG on the roster.

[Calinks]

ESPN just said that Grady is their partner this season, is he not coming back for us this season?

[winforlose]

TC did not move up to draft him … then send him to D-League. Right or wrong. If he has some dimes and low turnovers, he’ll get in the rotation

That is not so uncommon. The dude is 143 pounds and cannot defend. In any case, Minott and Dilly are probably 9 and 10. Garza and Jingles might usurp depending on need.

Either you're unbelievably wrong, using hyperbole or flat out lying. Dillingham weighed 163 at the draft testing. Combine or whatever they call it.

I may be wrong but didn’t they say 143 on the draft videos?