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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#1241 » by CDM_Stats » Tue Oct 15, 2024 4:16 am

Klay is looking rough, but its preseason and the Mavs arent playing any legitimate PGs.. stuff we already knew. He needs shots created for him.. he did OK with Kyrie last game

I'm not looking forward to seeing this thread this year.. since Klay is so bipolar game to game, it will be a constant back and forth from people enjoying him playing poorly or being hysterically lectured about how much we should have kept him when he doesn't
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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#1242 » by SpreeS » Tue Oct 15, 2024 4:29 am

You can miss shots, its preseason (3-9 and 0-9), but when you have the highest negative plus/minus two game in a row -19 and -14, it tells way way more than missing shots.
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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#1243 » by CDM_Stats » Tue Oct 15, 2024 4:38 am

Shooting is literally the only thing he can do to raise his +/-

Can't put people in a position where you know they'd fail as a proof that they suck. If he is completely cooked, we'll know it at the end of November. But him not getting boards, assists, or playing defense isn't some new development. He's designed to spread the floor for Kyrie and Luka, and looked passable when with Kyrie. None of these numbers mean anything or show anything that isn't already known
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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#1244 » by marthafokker » Tue Oct 15, 2024 5:50 am

Nothing new here. This is last year's Klay from his 2 games so far.

Kerr putting him into the 2nd unit helps him because he was mostly matched against slower and less talented defender. Now that he is starting again, is not just the same starting Klay, but could be worse.

So glad he turned down the 2 year contract MDJ offered.
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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#1245 » by Crazy-Canuck » Tue Oct 15, 2024 6:23 am

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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#1246 » by Hoopstar23 » Tue Oct 15, 2024 6:47 am



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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#1247 » by watch1958 » Tue Oct 15, 2024 7:42 am

His shot doesn’t look the same.
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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#1248 » by Jester_ » Tue Oct 15, 2024 12:13 pm

I feel bad. I think his game could have aged a lot better if he took a Westbrook approach to his twilight years. He just refuses to play in the flow of the game and insists on trying to play like he's old Klay.
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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#1249 » by Senchu » Tue Oct 15, 2024 12:59 pm

I feel good that he signed with Mavs.
Now I dont have mixed feelings and can remember him for what he is - Bay area legend!
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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#1250 » by Onus » Tue Oct 15, 2024 1:44 pm

Jester_ wrote:I feel bad. I think his game could have aged a lot better if he took a Westbrook approach to his twilight years. He just refuses to play in the flow of the game and insists on trying to play like he's old Klay.

It took Westbrook getting humiliated and scapegoated in his home town to get him to accept a bench role.
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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#1251 » by DevinVassell » Tue Oct 15, 2024 8:00 pm

Klays biggest problem - was that he was (and maybe still is) in denial. That "I'm the best" mentality may have given him an edge in the past but it is now just a massive detriment to his team.

The Warriors biggest problem - was (and maybe still is) Steve Kerr. Does anyone doubt that if a veteran and championship winning Klay was still here that Steve wouldn't be starting him... or would meritocracy finally, finally prevail...

Thank the sweet lord or the spaghetti monster or whoever that Klay refused that contract.
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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#1252 » by Onus » Tue Oct 15, 2024 8:47 pm

DevinVassell wrote:Klays biggest problem - was that he was (and maybe still is) in denial. That "I'm the best" mentality may have given him an edge in the past but it is now just a massive detriment to his team.

The Warriors biggest problem - was (and maybe still is) Steve Kerr. Does anyone doubt that if a veteran and championship winning Klay was still here that Steve wouldn't be starting him... or would meritocracy finally, finally prevail...

Thank the sweet lord or the spaghetti monster or whoever that Klay refused that contract.

I do think Klay would be coming off the bench on our team this year which is part of the reason why he wanted to leave. But it probably still wouldn't be a meritocracy.
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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#1253 » by DevinVassell » Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:05 pm

I like your optimism but Klays new offered contract was reportedly 24M per.

That's an expensive bench player.
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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#1254 » by Onus » Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:09 pm

DevinVassell wrote:I like your optimism but Klays new offered contract was reportedly 24M per.

That's an expensive bench player.

That was last off season, which was taken off the table during the season. We don’t know what we offered him this season since we told him to wait.
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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#1255 » by Hoopstar23 » Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:11 pm

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DevinVassell wrote:I like your optimism but Klays new offered contract was reportedly 24M per.

That's an expensive bench player.

That was last off season, which was taken off the table during the season. We don’t know what we offered him this season since we told him to wait.


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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#1256 » by Jax_23 » Sun Oct 20, 2024 2:32 am

Klay hit like 4-5 shots in a row vs the Bucks. He's a streaky shooter.




Klay makes shot = "he's amazing." Klay misses shot = "he's ass / washed!" Nothing new here. Gonna reserve judgment until the first couple months, but I'd bet that Klay has a way better year than last season. He'll be playing a better role and can just be a catch and shoot player a la Ray Allen with the Celtics & Heat, and this Mavs team actually wants him. Would bet a lot of Klayters will be eating crow during the playoffs when Klay is a major contributor to a contender.
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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#1257 » by Hoopstar23 » Sun Oct 20, 2024 7:09 pm

Jax_23 wrote:Klay hit like 4-5 shots in a row vs the Bucks. He's a streaky shooter.




Klay makes shot = "he's amazing." Klay misses shot = "he's ass / washed!" Nothing new here. Gonna reserve judgment until the first couple months, but I'd bet that Klay has a way better year than last season. He'll be playing a better role and can just be a catch and shoot player a la Ray Allen with the Celtics & Heat, and this Mavs team actually wants him. Would bet a lot of Klayters will be eating crow during the playoffs when Klay is a major contributor to a contender.


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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#1258 » by Dubs 707 » Mon Oct 21, 2024 1:55 am

If waived, do we bring him back on a vet min, is the question?

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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#1259 » by Jax_23 » Fri Oct 25, 2024 4:45 am

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Re: is Klay done? 

Post#1260 » by whatisacenter » Fri Oct 25, 2024 4:48 am

So happy for Klay!
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