NYK roster compared to BOS and PHI

sol537 · Post #1 » by **sol537** » Mon Oct 14, 2024 5:37 pm

IMO of course...

NYK vs. Boston

Top Dog: Brunson > Tatum
Second Banana: KAT = Brown
Third Wheel: Mikal = Jrue
Fourth Fulcrum: OG = KP
Fifth Starter: Hart < White
Bench: Miles, Precious, Payne = Hortford, Hauser, Pritchard

*These two teams are closer than people think. BOS gets the edge for now due to experience and slight defensive edge

NYK vs. PHI

Top Dog: Brunson > Maxey
Second Banana: KAT = Embiid
Third Wheel: Mikal = PG13
Fourth Fulcrum: OG > Oubre
Fifth Starter: Hart > Martin
Bench: Miles Precious, Payne > Lowry, Gordon, Drummond

*I give the edge to NYK if both teams are healthy. It's close, but we got the edge in overall talent IMO, especially considering PG13's age and Embiid's health.

Agree, disagree?

whocares1 · Post #2 » by **whocares1** » Mon Oct 14, 2024 5:41 pm

Embiid and Towns are not equal come on lol.

sol537 · Post #3 » by **sol537** » Mon Oct 14, 2024 5:44 pm

whocares1 wrote:Embiid and Towns are not equal come on lol.

Factoring in Embiid's ongoing health issues and age... and projecting Towns' performance this season... I think it will be closer to equal this season than it has been in the past. IMO of course.

dcstanley · Post #4 » by **dcstanley** » Mon Oct 14, 2024 6:34 pm

Embiid is still Philly's best player and PG is still better than Mikal.

StlHawksFan · Post #5 » by **StlHawksFan** » Tue Oct 15, 2024 1:48 pm

dcstanley wrote:Embiid is still Philly's best player and PG is still better than Mikal.

Yes but I get what he's saying. Would you rather have 70 games of KAT or 50 games of Embiid? How about 82 games of Bridges or 50 games of PG?

Post #6 » by **moocow007** » Tue Oct 15, 2024 2:17 pm

Paul George just hyperextended his knee.

Richard4444 · Post #7 » by **Richard4444** » Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:07 pm

Brunson - Tatum (Main Scorer)
Mikal - Brown (2 way second option)
OG - Jrue (Defensive Specialist)
Hart - White (Jack of all trades)
Towns - KP (Stretch Big)

Deuce - Pritchard (6 th man)

Fat · Post #8 » by **Fat** » Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:30 pm

Towns = Embiid

Mikal = PG13

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rajajackal · Post #9 » by **rajajackal** » Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:34 pm

sol537 wrote:
whocares1 wrote:Embiid and Towns are not equal come on lol.

Factoring in Embiid's ongoing health issues and age... and projecting Towns' performance this season... I think it will be closer to equal this season than it has been in the past. IMO of course.

embiid is the most overrated player in the league i think you're right

KnixinSix · Post #10 » by **KnixinSix** » Tue Oct 15, 2024 4:14 pm

sol537 wrote:IMO of course...

NYK vs. Boston

Top Dog: Brunson > Tatum
Second Banana: KAT = Brown
Third Wheel: Mikal = Jrue
Fourth Fulcrum: OG = KP
Fifth Starter: Hart < White
Bench: Miles, Precious, Payne = Hortford, Hauser, Pritchard

*These two teams are closer than people think. BOS gets the edge for now due to experience and slight defensive edge

NYK vs. PHI

Top Dog: Brunson > Maxey
Second Banana: KAT = Embiid
Third Wheel: Mikal = PG13
Fourth Fulcrum: OG > Oubre
Fifth Starter: Hart > Martin
Bench: Miles Precious, Payne > Lowry, Gordon, Drummond

*I give the edge to NYK if both teams are healthy. It's close, but we got the edge in overall talent IMO, especially considering PG13's age and Embiid's health.

Agree, disagree?

I have to see the KAT dynamic play out a littel more but where I think we have a big edge is the intensity and compete level Thibs gets his players to play at. Last year post OG we were dominant for large stretches pretty much beating all levels of teams including the Celtics, Timberwolves Denver Philly etc. This team added Bridges to OG and a better fitting KAT vs Randle. McBride is a year older and we have a clearly deeper bench.

Unless this KAT dynamic ends up being much worse than anticipated I think this team absolutely can beat the Celts. Folks are underestimating just how dominant this team was post OG and now in theory we are better and deeper.

On Philly their 2 top dogs arent just somewhat injury prone they are very injury prone. And PG may already have injured his knee with severity TBD. I dont think they beat us.

KnixinSix · Post #11 » by **KnixinSix** » Tue Oct 15, 2024 4:21 pm

dcstanley wrote:Embiid is still Philly's best player and PG is still better than Mikal.

In terms of either an elite level of defense or an elite level of offense I don’t think any team has a better talented top 5 than we do. Though Boston is close.

Defense often gets discounted we have 4 not just very good but elite defenders on this squad. Not many teams have more than 1. A few have two. Almost none have 3 . We have four and 5 even if you count Mitch.

sol537 · Post #12 » by **sol537** » Tue Oct 15, 2024 4:23 pm

Fat wrote:Towns = Embiid

Mikal = PG13

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Factoring in age, health history, fit, potential impact this season, contract... so ie overall impact to winning... I think they're not as far off as people would normally think right now. We'll see though. It's just my humble opinion.

gavran · Post #13 » by **gavran** » Tue Oct 15, 2024 5:28 pm

sol537 wrote:
whocares1 wrote:Embiid and Towns are not equal come on lol.

Factoring in Embiid's ongoing health issues and age... and projecting Towns' performance this season... I think it will be closer to equal this season than it has been in the past. IMO of course.

What about KAT's ingoing health issues? He played less games over the past 5 years than Embiid.

Jalen Bluntson · Post #14 » by **Jalen Bluntson** » Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:06 am

We are deeper than both teams. Better than Philly. The only team in the East as good as the Knicks is Boston.

Davis18 · Post #15 » by **Davis18** » Wed Oct 16, 2024 7:05 am

We have well balanced starting 5 but might need full season to gel.
We can compete with anyone and have a legit shot at championship for next 3~4 years.
Lebron cHeat didn't win in first year.

stuporman · Post #16 » by **stuporman** » Wed Oct 16, 2024 11:32 am

Disappointed in the lack of Tyko, PacDadi and Huktuah in this comparison which clearly sets the Knicks over the top.

Plus you can't really compare player to player breakdowns without recognizing the metaphenomenal synergistic effect of the whole team as opposed to simply it's parts.

The Celtics have that, the Knicks have that, the Sixers have yet to prove they have it.

god shammgod · Post #17 » by **god shammgod** » Wed Oct 16, 2024 11:56 am

if everyone is healthy, both boston and philly have a better top 3 than us. we have the worst depth too.

Jalen Bluntson · Post #18 » by **Jalen Bluntson** » Wed Oct 16, 2024 12:14 pm

god shammgod wrote:if everyone is healthy, both boston and philly have a better top 3 than us. we have the worst depth too.

Boston has the edge talent wise but, Philly is not better. Everyone won't be healthy on that old washed roster. Neither team is deeper at all.

god shammgod · Post #19 » by **god shammgod** » Wed Oct 16, 2024 3:28 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
god shammgod wrote:if everyone is healthy, both boston and philly have a better top 3 than us. we have the worst depth too.

Boston has the edge talent wise but, Philly is not better. Everyone won't be healthy on that old washed roster. Neither team is deeper at all.

they're washed ? maxey is a younger star than anyone we got and embiid was the mvp last year.

find any list of player rankings from any reputable place and embiid will be the number one player on the list from us or the sixers, brunson will be 2nd and then both maxey & paul george will be next before kat and mikal.

Post #20 » by **mpharris36** » Wed Oct 16, 2024 3:31 pm

god shammgod wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
god shammgod wrote:if everyone is healthy, both boston and philly have a better top 3 than us. we have the worst depth too.

Boston has the edge talent wise but, Philly is not better. Everyone won't be healthy on that old washed roster. Neither team is deeper at all.

they're washed ? maxey is a younger star than anyone we got and embiid was the mvp last year.

find any list of player rankings from any reputable place and embiid will be the number one player on the list from us or the sixers, brunson will be 2nd and then both maxey & paul george will be next before kat and mikal.

There is a lot more question marks about the sixers on how they are going to fit though. Embiid and Maxey are the clear #1 and #2 options in terms of usage. If PG going to thrive in a 3rd banana role.

I think Mikal and OG while not as talented as PG are way more comfortable fitting into that 3rd role than PG will be.