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Re: PG: KNICKS Z-League Beats Charlotte Starters 

Post#181 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Wed Oct 16, 2024 5:21 pm

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Disagree with the Strickland guys here. Kolek made the right decision. Corner 3 > above the break 3.


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In seriousness I get what they're saying it's hard to get two clean looks in a possession. I'm just super impressed with a pac getting in a position to make himself available. Savvy sht from a kid.


I almost think it was a play. You can see Huk setting a back screen for Dadiet. If it wasn’t a play, all 3 kids have high Bball IQ’s since they created 2 good shots.
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Post#182 » by Context » Wed Oct 16, 2024 5:31 pm

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Post#184 » by Fat Kat » Wed Oct 16, 2024 5:39 pm

Huk is better than Sims by a wide margin
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Post#185 » by Luv those Knicks » Wed Oct 16, 2024 5:47 pm

I haven't read all 10 pages, but that sucks about Shamet. His injury will probably keep him out for the year and his contract (Exhibit-9) was non guaranteed. I'm sure the Knicks will give him a G-league salary even if he doesn't play but they can't pay him a NBA minimum with their being up against the 2nd apron.

TJ Warren may get that spot now, and he looks serviceable to me for a 13th man. This hurts more for Landry than it does for NY, though his outside shooting might have played a role for us this year.

Kolek & Dadiet will probably get Landry's minutes.
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Post#186 » by Fat Kat » Wed Oct 16, 2024 5:48 pm

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Post#187 » by RHODEY » Wed Oct 16, 2024 5:54 pm

Fat Kat wrote:Huk is better than Sims by a wide margin

HUK's muscles are functional :)
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Post#188 » by Lord Commander » Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:00 pm

Fat Kat wrote:Huk is better than Sims by a wide margin

It's not even close
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Post#189 » by BKlutch » Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:02 pm

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Capn'O wrote:Rokas was a joke. He baited us.

But this all reads like the upside from his draft tape. Effortless jumper. Solid off ball reads. Doesn't overthink things. Hopefully he can be passable on D. But we've got plenty of time to bring him along.

Think about it. Bad draft. Bad picks. And so far we can be optimistic about having three serviceable rotation players and we don't even know about the fourth. Brock Aller has earned the right to celebrate. Maybe he can acquire the rights to some guy from Tajikistan who last played in 2007. Something special that he'll always cherish.

That's a punny dad joke, but it's acceptable in the preseason.


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Post#190 » by BKlutch » Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:10 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:It does appear winning flushes out the trolls. It is refreshing to read a PG thread with positive voices for once.

They're just teasing us by doing this so the eventual letdown when they return is even more horrible. They're um, still trolling us.
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Post#191 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:30 pm

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Capn'O wrote:Rokas was a joke. He baited us.

But this all reads like the upside from his draft tape. Effortless jumper. Solid off ball reads. Doesn't overthink things. Hopefully he can be passable on D. But we've got plenty of time to bring him along.

Think about it. Bad draft. Bad picks. And so far we can be optimistic about having three serviceable rotation players and we don't even know about the fourth. Brock Aller has earned the right to celebrate. Maybe he can acquire the rights to some guy from Tajikistan who last played in 2007. Something special that he'll always cherish.

That's a punny dad joke, but it's acceptable in the preseason.


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Post#192 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:34 pm

Worst_to_First wrote:LaMelo a team worst minus 16 against our bench. Sad to see.

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Post#193 » by Capn'O » Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:38 pm

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I totally misread this guy. He seems legit and ready to contribute now. I like how physical he is and Thibs is gonna love that too.
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Post#194 » by BKlutch » Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:44 pm

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Post#195 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:45 pm

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Post#197 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:47 pm

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I totally misread this guy. He seems legit and ready to contribute now. I like how physical he is and Thibs is gonna love that too.

he has a lot of game. i posted this in july lol

3toheadmelo wrote:first time watching him. why tf didnt you guys mention that we drafted a center that has an offensive game???? and he's 7'0!!
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Post#198 » by Capn'O » Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:54 pm

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I totally misread this guy. He seems legit and ready to contribute now. I like how physical he is and Thibs is gonna love that too.

he has a lot of game. i posted this in july lol

3toheadmelo wrote:first time watching him. why tf didnt you guys mention that we drafted a center that has an offensive game???? and he's 7'0!!
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Post#199 » by Luv those Knicks » Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:56 pm

Who's the Knicks draft Guru?, because they really seem to have the draft down, at least the later rounds, not the lottery picks.

Grimes at 25, 2021, solid pick
McBride, 2nd rounder, solid pick
Sims is a bit limited but for where they picked him, he's above average value.
Mitch was a few years before, but also, a great return for a 2nd round pick.

I don't think Rokas is an NBA player, but I can't fault them for picking him.

Trevor Keels was a miss, but most 2nd rounders are misses

Considering the fail rate at picks 25 and later, 2 good picks, one servicable pick in the 50s, and Mitch a few years earlier is solid.

and that's not counting 2024 which looks brilliant.

Dadiet looks like a keeper
Kolek looks legit
McCuller hasn't played yet, still injured, but there's potential
and Hukporti looks great.

At least 3 players who could be rotation guys with picks 25 or later is impressive.

I know they've fumbled in the past. Frank, Knox, Toppin, but looking at recent drafts, they seem to know their stuff.

Am I giving them too much credit? They seem to know how to pick them.
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Post#200 » by Zenzibar » Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:57 pm

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Knicks' Tom Thibodeau Is Right, Ariel Hukporti Is ‘Terrific’
The Knicks rookie is already impressing.

The New York Knicks have been a dominant force in NBA headlines for the majority of the offseason. Pulling off two blockbuster trades - for Mikal Bridges and Karl Anthony Towns - that bookended the summer will do that. Plenty of attention has been given to a notable departure as well, with Isaiah Hartenstein leaving for the Oklahoma City Thunder. Hartenstein, while not Towns, was a valuable piece for the Knicks last season.

He helped them dominate the glass at both ends of the floor, offered elite rim protection, and quality low-post defense which was especially valuable in their first-round series against Joel Embiid and the Philadelphia 76ers, and was a quality roll-man and dribble handoff option. A plus decision-maker for his size with exquisite touch, he was everything you want in a modern center, but Towns is something else - a true stretch-five (there are maybe five of these in the NBA total) who still offers many of the same defensive qualities Hartenstein did. It’s almost impossible to turn down one of the most prized commodities in the NBA like Towns, and the Knicks didn’t.

These offseason moves have depleted the New York Knicks draft capital and depth (not that the latter ever meant a lot to head coach Tom Thibodeau), leaving them short in one area in particular: backup center. Mitchell Robinson would fill this role, but he’s out until January according to ESPN’s Shams Charania. That leaves Jericho Sims and Precious Achiuwa, and the 58th and final pick of the 2024 NBA Draft Ariel Hukporti.

Hukporti signed a two-way contract with the Knicks and in only one preseason game, he might already be forcing the Knicks' hand on converting it sooner rather than later. In 16 minutes off the bench against the Washington Wizards, Hukporti finished with three steals, four rebounds, and seven points on 3-of-4 shooting. This performance drew praise from Thibodeau, calling Hukporti’s performance, “terrific."

Hukporti’s impressive start is a welcome surprise for Knicks fans, but for folks who watched him in Australia over the past couple of seasons, it’s not a surprise at all. Playing for Melbourne United, Hukporti performed a lot of the tasks Hartenstein did and at a high level. Starting with his defense, take a look at these clips from last season’s NBL Finals. Hukporti guarded the pick-and-roll and two-man game brilliantly. He was able to lock up Jack McVeigh (who signed a two-way deal with the Houston Rockets) and Will Magnay (arguably the NBL’s best center) at the same time. He switched onto Jordan Crawford and Milton Doyle and clamped them with relative ease too.

On the other side of the ball, Hukporti is a menace as a lob man and roller. He has soft hands and is an explosive leaper. He will likely feast off of lobs from the likes of Jalen Brunson and Tyler Kolek this season and beyond.

For Hukporti to earn real rotation minutes with the Knicks this season, he’s got to do the dirty work. He needs to help them control the glass as they have for most of the Thibodeau era, and move baseline to baseline with the efficiency guys like Brunson, Mikal Bridges, Josh Hart, and OG Anunoby will require. Again, Hukporti has already shown that is exactly the player he wants to be.

For as good as Hukporti has looked in both Summer League and early preseason action, it’s unlikely he’ll be a playoff rotation player this season if the Knicks are healthy. But it does look like he could already feature in their regular season plans, and secure a guaranteed roster spot relatively quickly. If everything works out perfectly, he could be their backup center solution for the next decade.
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