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Re: NYK roster compared to BOS and PHI 

Post#41 » by Jalen Bluntson » Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:03 pm

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they're washed ? maxey is a younger star than anyone we got and embiid was the mvp last year.

find any list of player rankings from any reputable place and embiid will be the number one player on the list from us or the sixers, brunson will be 2nd and then both maxey & paul george will be next before kat and mikal.


They have two players who choke every year in the playoffs if they are even able to play. Maxey is a great young player. Oubre is decent. Caleb Martin? Not scared at all. The rest of that roster is Lowry/Gordon/Drummond (washed) and what? Yabusele? :lol:

Those places are as reputable as this place. :lol: We are a better team than Philly. No doubt about it. Propping up Embiid/PG is better done with crutches than praise. In no sane person would suggest Maxey or PG13 better than KAT. :rofl:


every single person who judges these things professionally disagrees with you. all of them.


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Re: NYK roster compared to BOS and PHI 

Post#42 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:03 pm

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Boston has the edge talent wise but, Philly is not better. Everyone won't be healthy on that old washed roster. Neither team is deeper at all.


they're washed ? maxey is a younger star than anyone we got and embiid was the mvp last year.

find any list of player rankings from any reputable place and embiid will be the number one player on the list from us or the sixers, brunson will be 2nd and then both maxey & paul george will be next before kat and mikal.


They have two players who choke every year in the playoffs if they are even able to play. Maxey is a great young player. Oubre is decent. Caleb Martin? Not scared at all. The rest of that roster is Lowry/Gordon/Drummond (washed) and what? Yabusele? :lol:

Those places are as reputable as this place. :lol: We are a better team than Philly. No doubt about it. Propping up Embiid/PG is better done with crutches than praise. In no sane person would suggest Maxey or PG13 better than KAT. :rofl:

i think we're better than the sixers but maxey is 100% better than kat. lets be serious now lol
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Re: NYK roster compared to BOS and PHI 

Post#43 » by god shammgod » Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:04 pm

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They have two players who choke every year in the playoffs if they are even able to play. Maxey is a great young player. Oubre is decent. Caleb Martin? Not scared at all. The rest of that roster is Lowry/Gordon/Drummond (washed) and what? Yabusele? :lol:

Those places are as reputable as this place. :lol: We are a better team than Philly. No doubt about it. Propping up Embiid/PG is better done with crutches than praise. In no sane person would suggest Maxey or PG13 better than KAT. :rofl:


every single person who judges these things professionally disagrees with you. all of them.


Whatever you say Shamald.


find a list of ranked players from the ringer or espn or wherever. you'll see.
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Re: NYK roster compared to BOS and PHI 

Post#44 » by god shammgod » Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:10 pm

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they're washed ? maxey is a younger star than anyone we got and embiid was the mvp last year.

find any list of player rankings from any reputable place and embiid will be the number one player on the list from us or the sixers, brunson will be 2nd and then both maxey & paul george will be next before kat and mikal.


They have two players who choke every year in the playoffs if they are even able to play. Maxey is a great young player. Oubre is decent. Caleb Martin? Not scared at all. The rest of that roster is Lowry/Gordon/Drummond (washed) and what? Yabusele? :lol:

Those places are as reputable as this place. :lol: We are a better team than Philly. No doubt about it. Propping up Embiid/PG is better done with crutches than praise. In no sane person would suggest Maxey or PG13 better than KAT. :rofl:

i think we're better than the sixers but maxey is 100% better than kat. lets be serious now lol


i didn't even say what team was better. i said their top 3 was better. i don't think that can be argued. their best player is better than ours, their 2nd best player is better than ours and their 3rd is better than ours.
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Re: NYK roster compared to BOS and PHI 

Post#45 » by Jalen Bluntson » Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:14 pm

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every single person who judges these things professionally disagrees with you. all of them.


Whatever you say Shamald.


find a list of ranked players from the ringer or espn or wherever. you'll see.


Oh..,the same publications that have trashed the Knicks for decades? Cool story bro. Knicks are by far the better TEAM! You can try all you want pitting player for player rankings. It's about the team though. Knicks are clearly better.
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Re: NYK roster compared to BOS and PHI 

Post#46 » by god shammgod » Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:17 pm

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Whatever you say Shamald.


find a list of ranked players from the ringer or espn or wherever. you'll see.


Oh..,the same publications that have trashed the Knicks for decades? Cool story bro. Knicks are by far the better TEAM! You can try all you want pitting player for player rankings. It's about the team though. Knicks are clearly better.


every fanbase thinks their team is treated unfairly. it's irrational.

and the topic of this thread is roster comparison. the original poster compared the players of the top east teams. this is the actual topic :lol:
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Re: NYK roster compared to BOS and PHI 

Post#47 » by Jalen Bluntson » Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:20 pm

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They have two players who choke every year in the playoffs if they are even able to play. Maxey is a great young player. Oubre is decent. Caleb Martin? Not scared at all. The rest of that roster is Lowry/Gordon/Drummond (washed) and what? Yabusele? :lol:

Those places are as reputable as this place. :lol: We are a better team than Philly. No doubt about it. Propping up Embiid/PG is better done with crutches than praise. In no sane person would suggest Maxey or PG13 better than KAT. :rofl:

i think we're better than the sixers but maxey is 100% better than kat. lets be serious now lol


i didn't even say what team was better. i said their top 3 was better. i don't think that can be argued. their best player is better than ours, their 2nd best player is better than ours and their 3rd is better than ours.


That's all your opinion. Why you think it proves anything is weird. Just like my opinion that Embiid won't even play in the playoffs and PG SUCKS in the playoffs or that Brunson is better than EVERYONE on their team in the playoffs doesn't prove anything. We shall see and you will be wrong when we do.
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Re: NYK roster compared to BOS and PHI 

Post#48 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:21 pm

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They have two players who choke every year in the playoffs if they are even able to play. Maxey is a great young player. Oubre is decent. Caleb Martin? Not scared at all. The rest of that roster is Lowry/Gordon/Drummond (washed) and what? Yabusele? :lol:

Those places are as reputable as this place. :lol: We are a better team than Philly. No doubt about it. Propping up Embiid/PG is better done with crutches than praise. In no sane person would suggest Maxey or PG13 better than KAT. :rofl:

i think we're better than the sixers but maxey is 100% better than kat. lets be serious now lol


i didn't even say what team was better. i said their top 3 was better. i don't think that can be argued. their best player is better than ours, their 2nd best player is better than ours and their 3rd is better than ours.

yeah i don't think you can dispute that

maxey = brunson
embiid > kat
pg13 > mikal
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Re: NYK roster compared to BOS and PHI 

Post#49 » by Jalen Bluntson » Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:23 pm

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find a list of ranked players from the ringer or espn or wherever. you'll see.


Oh..,the same publications that have trashed the Knicks for decades? Cool story bro. Knicks are by far the better TEAM! You can try all you want pitting player for player rankings. It's about the team though. Knicks are clearly better.


every fanbase thinks their team is treated unfairly. it's irrational.

and the topic of this thread is roster comparison. the original poster compared the players of the top east teams. this is the actual topic :lol:


Whatever bro. You are the one dragging up what these shyt sites rankings are. ESPN has been NOTORIOUSLY anti Knicks for decades. All of their rankings are BS. Move goalposts much?

Brunson is better than their entire "big 3".
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Re: NYK roster compared to BOS and PHI 

Post#50 » by god shammgod » Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:25 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:i think we're better than the sixers but maxey is 100% better than kat. lets be serious now lol


i didn't even say what team was better. i said their top 3 was better. i don't think that can be argued. their best player is better than ours, their 2nd best player is better than ours and their 3rd is better than ours.


That's all your opinion. Why you think it proves anything is weird. Just like my opinion that Embiid won't even play in the playoffs and PG SUCKS in the playoffs or that Brunson is better than EVERYONE on their team in the playoffs doesn't prove anything. We shall see and you will be wrong when we do.


again, it's the opinion of everyone who does this professionally. not just espn. embiid was the mvp last year. he was the runner up the year before. now he's washed ? you can disagree but your opinion is an outlier.
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Post#51 » by god shammgod » Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:28 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:i think we're better than the sixers but maxey is 100% better than kat. lets be serious now lol


i didn't even say what team was better. i said their top 3 was better. i don't think that can be argued. their best player is better than ours, their 2nd best player is better than ours and their 3rd is better than ours.

yeah i don't think you can dispute that

maxey = brunson
embiid > kat
pg13 > mikal


i wasn't even doing it based on position. just on pecking order on the team.

embiid>brunson
maxey>kat
pg>mikal

now og and hart are better than anyone else they have but top 3 they got us if they're healthy. it's not really debatable.
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Post#52 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:37 pm

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i didn't even say what team was better. i said their top 3 was better. i don't think that can be argued. their best player is better than ours, their 2nd best player is better than ours and their 3rd is better than ours.

yeah i don't think you can dispute that

maxey = brunson
embiid > kat
pg13 > mikal


i wasn't even doing it based on position. just on pecking order on the team.

embiid>brunson
maxey>kat
pg>mikal

now og and hart are better than anyone else they have but top 3 they got us if they're healthy. it's not really debatable.

my bad i wasnt following the whole convo. if you looking at it from pecking order yeah its no debate lol
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Re: NYK roster compared to BOS and PHI 

Post#53 » by Jalen Bluntson » Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:46 pm

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i didn't even say what team was better. i said their top 3 was better. i don't think that can be argued. their best player is better than ours, their 2nd best player is better than ours and their 3rd is better than ours.

yeah i don't think you can dispute that

maxey = brunson
embiid > kat
pg13 > mikal


i wasn't even doing it based on position. just on pecking order on the team.

embiid>brunson
maxey>kat
pg>mikal

now og and hart are better than anyone else they have but top 3 they got us if they're healthy. it's not really debatable.


Embiid doesn't play enough.
Paul George doesn't play enough.
Tyrese has actually missed more games than Brunson the last four years as well.

The best ability is availability. Brunson >>>>>>>all of them.
We just beat them last season and improved our team way more than they did. The Knicks are CLEARLY the better team.

Brunson/Mikal/Hart/OG/KAT>>>>>>>>>>>>>Tyrese/Oubre/PG/Martin/Embiid

The bench is a little trickier but I'll take ours over theirs any day. They are washed. Lowry/Gordon/Yabusele/Drummond? Please.

We have tree of the best defenders in the league in our starting 5. They simply cannot match up with us.
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Re: NYK roster compared to BOS and PHI 

Post#54 » by god shammgod » Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:57 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:yeah i don't think you can dispute that

maxey = brunson
embiid > kat
pg13 > mikal


i wasn't even doing it based on position. just on pecking order on the team.

embiid>brunson
maxey>kat
pg>mikal

now og and hart are better than anyone else they have but top 3 they got us if they're healthy. it's not really debatable.


Embiid doesn't play enough.
Paul George doesn't play enough.
Tyrese has actually missed more games than Brunson the last four years as well.

The best ability is availability. Brunson >>>>>>>all of them.
We just beat them last season and improved our team way more than they did. The Knicks are CLEARLY the better team.

Brunson/Mikal/Hart/OG/KAT>>>>>>>>>>>>>Tyrese/Oubre/PG/Martin/Embiid

The bench is a little trickier but I'll take ours over theirs any day. They are washed. Lowry/Gordon/Yabusele/Drummond? Please.

We have tree of the best defenders in the league in our starting 5. They simply cannot match up with us.


i said if healthy in the initial post. we lost to the pacers who we're clearly better than because of health. it happens.

and there bench is at least made up of guys who are proven nba players. we have more question marks on the bench than they do. and as much as people are getting excited over these kids on the end of the bench because of preseason, there is no way in hell a thibs lead team that is trying to contend is gonna rely on barely drafted players in the playoffs.

lately i've been realizing this place is not really for me much anymore. if all people want to hear is the knicks are the best and everyone else sucks then i don't know what there is to discuss. :lol:
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Re: NYK roster compared to BOS and PHI 

Post#55 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Wed Oct 16, 2024 11:00 pm

god shammgod wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
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i didn't even say what team was better. i said their top 3 was better. i don't think that can be argued. their best player is better than ours, their 2nd best player is better than ours and their 3rd is better than ours.

yeah i don't think you can dispute that

maxey = brunson
embiid > kat
pg13 > mikal


i wasn't even doing it based on position. just on pecking order on the team.

embiid>brunson
maxey>kat
pg>mikal

now og and hart are better than anyone else they have but top 3 they got us if they're healthy. it's not really debatable.


Don’t think it be too tough of a case to make that PG is better than Kat too.
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Re: NYK roster compared to BOS and PHI 

Post#56 » by god shammgod » Wed Oct 16, 2024 11:02 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:yeah i don't think you can dispute that

maxey = brunson
embiid > kat
pg13 > mikal


i wasn't even doing it based on position. just on pecking order on the team.

embiid>brunson
maxey>kat
pg>mikal

now og and hart are better than anyone else they have but top 3 they got us if they're healthy. it's not really debatable.


Don’t think it be too tough of a case to make that PG is better than Kat too.


yep. i think the majority of people agree.
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Post#57 » by mpharris36 » Wed Oct 16, 2024 11:26 pm

Embiid is never heathly though. There is no way I'm taking the small potential that Embiid is healthy over Brunson.

If they offered the knicks Embiid for Brunson right now who in there right mind would take that offer?

There basically trying to baby Embiid the entire season because they just know he will be hurt by the playoffs. And that player your taking over a legit MVP candidate this year?
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Post#58 » by DaGawd » Wed Oct 16, 2024 11:28 pm

mpharris36 wrote:Embiid is never heathly though. There is no way I'm taking the small potential that Embiid is healthy over Brunson.

If they offered the knicks Embiid for Brunson right now who in there right mind would take that offer?

There basically trying to baby Embiid the entire season because they just know he will be hurt by the playoffs. And that player your taking over a legit MVP candidate this year?

certainly not i. embiid is now on the wrong side of 30 and won’t be getting any healthier
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Post#59 » by j4remi » Wed Oct 16, 2024 11:32 pm

Philly's problem is nobody expects them to stay healthy...and I feel like the rest of their depth chart is weird...good but weird.
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Post#60 » by mpharris36 » Wed Oct 16, 2024 11:32 pm

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mpharris36 wrote:Embiid is never heathly though. There is no way I'm taking the small potential that Embiid is healthy over Brunson.

If they offered the knicks Embiid for Brunson right now who in there right mind would take that offer?

There basically trying to baby Embiid the entire season because they just know he will be hurt by the playoffs. And that player your taking over a legit MVP candidate this year?

certainly not i. embiid is now on the wrong side of 30 and won’t be getting any healthier


there basically saying they want him to play half the season to hope and pray that keeps him healthy.

Yeah there is no way I'm taking Embiid over Brunson right now. This "if healthy" stuff is wild. He is never healthy and where is this dominant playoff performer? Brunson has shown over the last few years he is one of the best playoff performers in the NBA.
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