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[Jalen Bluntson]

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Jesus Christ, Trump is bonkers. He's committing the same felony crimes he was already convicted for.

Ummm.she didn't break down anything in that clip. She made a statement. Would have loved to hear the full story.

Well, its a clip, you can see more here:

https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/maddow-s-bombshell-reporting-trump-trying-to-pay-stormy-daniels-to-be-quiet-again-221947973843

Thank you sir.

I wonder what the legal ramifications of this are. He is awaiting sentencing for the original act and tried to commit the SAME EXACT CRIME!! AGAIN!!! Who would have jurisdiction on this? Would it impact the severity of his sentence?

Why hasn't he been sentenced yet while we are on the topic? Everyone hear would be serving time already for what he did. Months ago we would have been locked up! Why hasn't he been sentenced at all? Two tiered justice system!

[Clyde_Style]

Ummm.she didn't break down anything in that clip. She made a statement. Would have loved to hear the full story.

Well, its a clip, you can see more here:

https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/maddow-s-bombshell-reporting-trump-trying-to-pay-stormy-daniels-to-be-quiet-again-221947973843

Thank you sir.

I wonder what the legal ramifications of this are. He is awaiting sentencing for the original act and tried to commit the SAME EXACT CRIME!! AGAIN!!! Who would have jurisdiction on this? Would it impact the severity of his sentence?

Why hasn't he been sentenced yet while we are on the topic? Everyone hear would be serving time already for what he did. Months ago we would have been locked up! Why hasn't he been sentenced at all? Two tiered justice system!

Yes, I think it is very serious. Judge Merchan presumably postponed sentencing post-election so as to not influence the election, though I don't agree with that logic as he was already convicted.

Regardless, it will remove any friction from sentencing should the judge determine he should do hard time for his crimes. They made it pretty clear they will consider all factors including the attacks on witnesses and the judge's own daughter Trump made and had to be muzzled by the court for. And Trump's ongoing contempt of the court and the jury's decision can surely factor against him as being without remorse for his crimes.

But this puts it really over the top and may guarantee the sentencing results in jail time even if he is not re-tried for repeat offenses. It's bad if you're Trump and you've lost the election. Basically we could see him being perp walked in handcuffs by the end of the year.

Yeah, he just screwed himself big time. As soon as Harris wins, we can start counting the days until he is sent to prison.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Well, its a clip, you can see more here:

https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/maddow-s-bombshell-reporting-trump-trying-to-pay-stormy-daniels-to-be-quiet-again-221947973843

Thank you sir.

I wonder what the legal ramifications of this are. He is awaiting sentencing for the original act and tried to commit the SAME EXACT CRIME!! AGAIN!!! Who would have jurisdiction on this? Would it impact the severity of his sentence?

Why hasn't he been sentenced yet while we are on the topic? Everyone hear would be serving time already for what he did. Months ago we would have been locked up! Why hasn't he been sentenced at all? Two tiered justice system!

Yes, I think it is very serious. Judge Merchan presumably postponed sentencing post-election so as to not influence the election, though I don't agree with that logic as he was already convicted.

Regardless, it will remove any friction from sentencing should the judge determine he should do hard time for his crimes. They made it pretty clear they will consider all factors including the attacks on witnesses and the judge's own daughter Trump made and had to be muzzled by the court for. And Trump's ongoing contempt of the court and the jury's decision can surely factor against him as being without remorse for his crimes.

But this puts it really over the top and may guarantee the sentencing results in jail time even if he is not re-tried for repeat offenses. It's bad if you're Trump and you've lost the election. Basically we could see him being perp walked in handcuffs by the end of the year.

Yeah, he just screwed himself big time. As soon as Harris wins, we can start counting the days until he is sent to prison.

If he wins....no jail time? This is BS. He should have been sentenced to jail time already. Election be damned. That's a terrible decision. Perhaps influenced by not wanting to make a martyr out of him? I don't see how a criminal doing time for a crime they were convicted of would establish election interference at all. It actually undermines the justice system even further.

[Clyde_Style]

Thank you sir.

I wonder what the legal ramifications of this are. He is awaiting sentencing for the original act and tried to commit the SAME EXACT CRIME!! AGAIN!!! Who would have jurisdiction on this? Would it impact the severity of his sentence?

Why hasn't he been sentenced yet while we are on the topic? Everyone hear would be serving time already for what he did. Months ago we would have been locked up! Why hasn't he been sentenced at all? Two tiered justice system!

Yes, I think it is very serious. Judge Merchan presumably postponed sentencing post-election so as to not influence the election, though I don't agree with that logic as he was already convicted.

Regardless, it will remove any friction from sentencing should the judge determine he should do hard time for his crimes. They made it pretty clear they will consider all factors including the attacks on witnesses and the judge's own daughter Trump made and had to be muzzled by the court for. And Trump's ongoing contempt of the court and the jury's decision can surely factor against him as being without remorse for his crimes.

But this puts it really over the top and may guarantee the sentencing results in jail time even if he is not re-tried for repeat offenses. It's bad if you're Trump and you've lost the election. Basically we could see him being perp walked in handcuffs by the end of the year.

Yeah, he just screwed himself big time. As soon as Harris wins, we can start counting the days until he is sent to prison.

If he wins....no jail time? This is BS. He should have been sentenced to jail time already. Election be damned. That's a terrible decision. Perhaps influenced by not wanting to make a martyr out of him? I don't see how a criminal doing time for a crime they were convicted of would establish election interference at all. It actually undermines the justice system even further.

It's a state conviction that is not impacted by the SCOTUS ruling so he could be sentenced to jail after the election even if he did win. All that would do is put Vance in the driver's seat so the only good outcome is they lose and then get sentenced

[Jalen Bluntson]

Yes, I think it is very serious. Judge Merchan presumably postponed sentencing post-election so as to not influence the election, though I don't agree with that logic as he was already convicted.

Regardless, it will remove any friction from sentencing should the judge determine he should do hard time for his crimes. They made it pretty clear they will consider all factors including the attacks on witnesses and the judge's own daughter Trump made and had to be muzzled by the court for. And Trump's ongoing contempt of the court and the jury's decision can surely factor against him as being without remorse for his crimes.

But this puts it really over the top and may guarantee the sentencing results in jail time even if he is not re-tried for repeat offenses. It's bad if you're Trump and you've lost the election. Basically we could see him being perp walked in handcuffs by the end of the year.

Yeah, he just screwed himself big time. As soon as Harris wins, we can start counting the days until he is sent to prison.

If he wins....no jail time? This is BS. He should have been sentenced to jail time already. Election be damned. That's a terrible decision. Perhaps influenced by not wanting to make a martyr out of him? I don't see how a criminal doing time for a crime they were convicted of would establish election interference at all. It actually undermines the justice system even further.

It's a state conviction that is not impacted by the SCOTUS ruling so he could be sentenced to jail after the election even if he did win. All that would do is put Vance in the driver's seat so the only good outcome is they lose and then get sentenced

Yeah...waiting is a bad decision but, I suppose it was the right thing seeing what e consequences would be now. 3 weeks can't get here fast enough. I want this over with. I want Kamala to win. Then he gets locked up IMMEDIATELY so he cannot protest the election or try to steal it. He'll be too busy jerk off dancing in prison to do anything.

[Clyde_Style]

If he wins....no jail time? This is BS. He should have been sentenced to jail time already. Election be damned. That's a terrible decision. Perhaps influenced by not wanting to make a martyr out of him? I don't see how a criminal doing time for a crime they were convicted of would establish election interference at all. It actually undermines the justice system even further.

It's a state conviction that is not impacted by the SCOTUS ruling so he could be sentenced to jail after the election even if he did win. All that would do is put Vance in the driver's seat so the only good outcome is they lose and then get sentenced

Yeah...waiting is a bad decision but, I suppose it was the right thing seeing what e consequences would be now. 3 weeks can't get here fast enough. I want this over with. I want Kamala to win. Then he gets locked up IMMEDIATELY so he cannot protest the election or try to steal it. He'll be too busy jerk off dancing in prison to do anything.

Sentencing is Nov 26, exactly 3 weeks after the election

The DNC has lawyers ready to shoot down every GOP steal the vote tactic, though to be honest I'm reasonably confident the electoral margins will be bigger for Harris this time that it was for Biden last time. In that case, there will be nothing to contest and we can look forward to his sentencing.

This is shaping up to be a blue wave. I do not believe the pollsters very much as they've been significantly wrong for 4 years now with Democrats outperforming all polls since 2020. The mainstream reportage in this country is largely clickbait at this point outside of a few people inside the system. The NY Times is not a good source of political news any longer though I still hold a subscription. They've been wrong about most things for years now.

The female vote will carry this election for Harris. It is going to be under-reported right up until the election and then the post-election analysis will be full of comments about how they underestimated the power of the female electorate.

[Jalen Bluntson]

It's a state conviction that is not impacted by the SCOTUS ruling so he could be sentenced to jail after the election even if he did win. All that would do is put Vance in the driver's seat so the only good outcome is they lose and then get sentenced

Yeah...waiting is a bad decision but, I suppose it was the right thing seeing what e consequences would be now. 3 weeks can't get here fast enough. I want this over with. I want Kamala to win. Then he gets locked up IMMEDIATELY so he cannot protest the election or try to steal it. He'll be too busy jerk off dancing in prison to do anything.

Sentencing is Nov 26, exactly 3 weeks after the election

The DNC has lawyers ready to shoot down every GOP steal the vote tactic, though to be honest I'm reasonably confident the electoral margins will be bigger for Harris this time that it was for Biden last time. In that case, there will be nothing to contest and we can look forward to his sentencing.

This is shaping up to be a blue wave. I do not believe the pollsters very much as they've been significantly wrong for 4 years now with Democrats outperforming all polls since 2020. The mainstream reportage in this country is largely clickbait at this point outside of a few people inside the system. The NY Times is not a good source of political news any longer though I still hold a subscription. They've been wrong about most things for years now.

The female vote will carry this election for Harris. It is going to be under-reported right up until the election and then the post-election analysis will be full of comments about how they underestimated the power of the female electorate.

I never trusted polls. Easily manipulated and just no way they can ever be calculated with any real accuracy. They are used to brainwash or manipulate voters. That is all. 400-600 even 1000 people doesn't represent 140 million or so people. Ridiculous for anyone to suggest such nonsense. Now we have gambling involved. Insanity.

[ScienceOfLosing]

What a disaster of an interview for Kamala. Let me summarize it. Like the Biden debate. Will they pull her now?

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[Jalen Bluntson]

What a disaster of an interview for Kamala. Let me summarize it. Like the Biden debate. Will they pull her now?

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Wow. Lie much?

[ScienceOfLosing]

Odd how none of our Trump supporting pals here don't ever comment on this stuff

You show a bunch of nazi's who support trump.
That doesn't mean being a Trump supporters equates to being a nazi.

A square is always a rectangle, but a rectangle isn't always a square.
This is basic logic we (I?) learned in like 2nd grade.
I'm sure we can find some pedophiles out there supporting Kamala, it doesn't mean that all Kamala supporters are pedophiles.

It's a silly line of reasoning.
There's essentially 2 political parties.
Each will have there fair share of undesirables.
Moving on.

I don't think that all Trump supporters are nazis. The guys in this photo actually got sh*tted on by other boaters in the parade by dousing them with a ton of water, which was good. Nazis should be treated like garbage.

I just happen to notice that Trump attracts nazis, racists, white nationalists, etc via his racist rhetoric, and it's not a deal breaker for people who support him.

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Clyde is delusional if he thinks this interview went well

[Jalen Bluntson]

You show a bunch of nazi's who support trump.
That doesn't mean being a Trump supporters equates to being a nazi.

A square is always a rectangle, but a rectangle isn't always a square.
This is basic logic we (I?) learned in like 2nd grade.
I'm sure we can find some pedophiles out there supporting Kamala, it doesn't mean that all Kamala supporters are pedophiles.

It's a silly line of reasoning.
There's essentially 2 political parties.
Each will have there fair share of undesirables.
Moving on.

I don't think that all Trump supporters are nazis. The guys in this photo actually got sh*tted on by other boaters in the parade by dousing them with a ton of water, which was good. Nazis should be treated like garbage.

I just happen to notice that Trump attracts nazis, racists, white nationalists, etc via his racist rhetoric, and it's not a deal breaker for people who support him.

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Otto Coca, communications director for the Ellis Island Honors Society, told Reuters via email that the society’s current administration “maintains that Donald Trump’s Ellis Island Medal of Honor was exclusively presented in acknowledgement of his German heritage and his contributions to the City of New York as a developer, business leader and job creator.”

“To the best of the current administration’s knowledge, EIHS has no record suggesting Donald Trump received the medal for any issues relating to race or for helping inner-city youth,” Coca added.
https://www.reuters.com/article/fact-check/ellis-island-medal-of-honor-was-given-to-trump-in-1986-but-not-for-racial-justi-idUSL1N2LN260/

[Jalen Bluntson]

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Clyde is delusional if he thinks this interview went well

It wasn't some failure like you and SoL are suggesting.

Would you care to compare it to any of Trump's interviews? We can wait until you find one where he did a better job in the last 90 days. I am sure you can provide at least one interview where he didn't completely go off the rails and lie every five seconds. I am sure you can provide an interview where the person giving the interview LIED to him and how he handled it in a mature and fact based response.

I'll wait right here. Should only take you a few seconds right?

[MrDollarBills]

I just watched a half dozen segments of Trump's Univision Town Hall and it was rough for him. He disrespects every citizen who asks him a question. He even went all in again on the dog eating thing in Springfield, OH with blatant lies about the population numbers saying 30,000 Haitians were dropped into the middle of a 50,000 population city. You should see the looks on the faces of the people listening to his answers. He's losing voters with this BS.

His answer to that one woman's question about abortion was wild.

[MrDollarBills]

What a disaster of an interview for Kamala. Let me summarize it. Like the Biden debate. Will they pull her now?

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Wow. Lie much?

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[Jalen Bluntson]

Kamala dodged some questions a little bit. I don't care for that but, it is to be expected somewhat. She took the reins though and destroyed Brett multiple times. She didn't take any bait. She handled herself far better than either of her opponents in this race ever have. She didn't lie once that I am aware of but, I could have missed it if she did. Anyone have any fact checks?

We all know Trump lies every time he opens his mouth. Vance as well. They dodge EVERY question and lie every time they get pressed. It's a huge difference. She gives policy details that neither Trump nor Vance ever discuss at all because they don't want their constituents to know they are going to implement project 2025. When Trump does try to discuss policy it is a colossal failure of lies.

What are we really doing here? Bad faith arguments from Trump supporters are easily debunked. It doesn't matter to them. Keep lying to yourselves. Must feel real good to buy the con and destroy your country because your ego can't handle the truth that you were conned over and over again.

There's a sucker born every minute. That's what Trump relies on. Good job people.

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[MrDollarBills]

Good lord. "But go on...." christ. That was cold

I wonder if Doug can fight?

[Pointgod]

What a disaster of an interview for Kamala. Let me summarize it. Like the Biden debate. Will they pull her now?

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Evidence of Fox News editing the clip they showed Harris vs Trump’s complete answer. I believe you called this election interference. Any thoughts on the right wing media lying to you?

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