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Re: Packers News, Transactions - Narveson Released/McManus Signed 

Post#1061 » by MVP2110 » Wed Oct 16, 2024 5:55 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:So what's the deal with Stokes at this point? Only played 16 snaps against Arizona and they had Nixon out there a ton as the other boundary corner, which I'm admittedly not a big fan of even if he did hold up well there (helped that their best receiver got hurt). I guess going with more 3-safety looks means someone is gonna have to take a back seat, but I don't think Nixon is really the guy you want out there that much when he's been the definition of a "meh" coverage guy (59th percentile pass coverage grade, 62.9 overall PFF grade).


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Post#1062 » by Giannisland34 » Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:34 pm

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WeekapaugGroove wrote:I wasn't familiar with the story so just looked it up. Bad look for sure, but even if what they are saying is true his actions aren't really blackballed from the league bad.



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I tend to agree but didn't want to take the conversation down that road.


Bukowski said the NFL never even spoke to the accusers, just the lawyers I guess and there “wasn’t enough evidence” for conviction. Team plane with all kinds of witnesses and no one saw foul play besides the accusers? Seems weird to me. I never heard this story before now tho, I’m not gonna have an opinion 1 way or another on this one. I took the bait at 1st on the Doubs stuff and that turned out to be insanely far from true so I’ll reserve judgement and wait for more information I guess? Or if it’s swept under the rug and Gutenkist and Lafleur feel comfortable with him then I’ll just ride with that and hope he’s at least better than Narveson..


I will say this kicking carousel we’ve been on is exhausting and annoying to say the least.


From my understanding it’s still in the courts. The first ruling, the judge said it wasn’t extreme enough for the women to remain anonymous. So their lawyer filed with their names now. That was in the beginning of September. The first case was filed in July. So I expect it will be similarly as long for the next to be heard then too.
I just read up on it last night after him coming to the Packers was announced.
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Post#1064 » by MVP2110 » Wed Oct 16, 2024 7:49 pm

Sounds like the Packers & the city of Green Bay are fighting over their current lease negotiation.

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And here is an interview the Mayor of Green Bay did with Cheesehead TV awhile back giving the city's side of the story

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Post#1066 » by MickeyDavis » Wed Oct 16, 2024 7:58 pm

A lot of posturing with the team and the city. It's not like they'll threaten to move.
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Post#1067 » by humanrefutation » Wed Oct 16, 2024 9:43 pm

I'd hate to be in the mayor's shoes fighting against the Packers. The Packers run Green Bay, for better or worse, and they know they have tremendous leverage to paint the mayor in a negative light. If I was the mayor, I'd be furious if the Packers reneged on a verbal agreement and were now painting me as the obstacle to getting a deal done. But if I was the Packers, I'd sit back comfortably knowing that they've got plenty of leverage.

The truth of the negotiations are between the parties, of course. But I will day that I think both parties benefit each other. Obviously Green Bay benefits from having the Packers. But the Packers benefit from having an entire city that accommodates their needs. I think folks underestimate how more difficult things would be for the Packers if they were in Milwaukee or Madison, by comparison, and had to compete for attention with the local teams/businesses/institutions, putting aside the feels and historicity of "small market Green Bay" competing with the big markets in the league.

I suspect that both parties know they need each other and will work something out before Murphy retires.
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Post#1068 » by Frank Nova » Wed Oct 16, 2024 11:58 pm

Has a team ever had the defensive player of the year and defensive rookie of the year on the same team?

Feels like we have a genuine chance to make that possible this year, X-man for dpoy and Evan Williams for droy. That would be awesome.
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Post#1069 » by crkone » Thu Oct 17, 2024 1:20 am

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Turk Nowitzki wrote:I tend to agree but didn't want to take the conversation down that road.


Bukowski said the NFL never even spoke to the accusers, just the lawyers I guess and there “wasn’t enough evidence” for conviction. Team plane with all kinds of witnesses and no one saw foul play besides the accusers? Seems weird to me. I never heard this story before now tho, I’m not gonna have an opinion 1 way or another on this one. I took the bait at 1st on the Doubs stuff and that turned out to be insanely far from true so I’ll reserve judgement and wait for more information I guess? Or if it’s swept under the rug and Gutenkist and Lafleur feel comfortable with him then I’ll just ride with that and hope he’s at least better than Narveson..


I will say this kicking carousel we’ve been on is exhausting and annoying to say the least.


From my understanding it’s still in the courts. The first ruling, the judge said it wasn’t extreme enough for the women to remain anonymous. So their lawyer filed with their names now. That was in the beginning of September. The first case was filed in July. So I expect it will be similarly as long for the next to be heard then too.
I just read up on it last night after him coming to the Packers was announced.
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While Florida court records show depositions with the two women remain on the docket, attorney Brett Gallaway, who represents McManus, told ESPN in a statement Wednesday: "The case has been resolved. I look forward to seeing him play for the Packers on Sunday."

Attorney Tony Buzbee, who is not listed on the lawsuit but said last month that he was representing the women, confirmed to ESPN on Wednesday night that the matter was "resolved" and that terms were confidential.


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Post#1070 » by MikeIsGood » Thu Oct 17, 2024 1:54 am

It is indeed confusing. From Schneiderman's piece:

Asked via email Wednesday if the NFL attempted to talk to the accusers as part of its investigation and about the case as a whole, Buzbee replied, “Plaintiffs and the Jaguars have resolved this matter. Terms are confidential.”

Miami-based attorney Brandon Chase is listed in online court documents as the attorney for both women now and didn’t respond immediately to a message left for him over the phone Wednesday.

Online court records in Florida showed that McManus’ attorney will take the deposition of Anderson, one of the flight attendants, on Friday morning in Jacksonville. The same is scheduled with Torres, the other flight attendant, next Tuesday. The court document states that “the deposition is being taken, for purposes of discovery, and for use at trial or hearing, or for such other purposes as are permitted under the applicable rules and governing law and shall continue from day to day until completed.”


It reads to me that they're going through with the depositions just to finish the process? Maybe because they actually "resolved" it, Buzbee is no longer representing the two women and they have a new state-assigned attorney? Total speculation just from this bit.
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Post#1071 » by ACGB » Thu Oct 17, 2024 2:48 am

At this point I'd sign Genghis Khan if he could kick a 50 yard field goal and worry about it after the parade.
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Post#1072 » by LikeABosh » Thu Oct 17, 2024 3:38 am

Frank Nova wrote:Has a team ever had the defensive player of the year and defensive rookie of the year on the same team?

Feels like we have a genuine chance to make that possible this year, X-man for dpoy and Evan Williams for droy. That would be awesome.


Well technically it has happened because Lawrence Taylor won both in 1981
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Post#1076 » by Frank Nova » Thu Oct 17, 2024 8:56 pm

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Frank Nova wrote:Has a team ever had the defensive player of the year and defensive rookie of the year on the same team?

Feels like we have a genuine chance to make that possible this year, X-man for dpoy and Evan Williams for droy. That would be awesome.


Well technically it has happened because Lawrence Taylor won both in 1981


Not surprising at all. Thanks for responding! I was genuinely curious and was being lazy. I figured it was more likely the same person won it, like a LT type of player, rather than 2 players from the same team at the same time. Hopefully Evan Williams and X-man can be the 1st teammates then.
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Post#1080 » by nagawicka » Sun Oct 20, 2024 1:31 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:A lot of posturing with the team and the city. It's not like they'll threaten to move.

It's not posturing from the City side. Elected officials have a fiduciary obligation to Geen Bay and its taxpayers, and nothing about *liking* the team or *wanting* to contribute makes that legal obligation go away. Green Bay is restricted from throwing an infinite pile of $$$ at a private corporation. The reality is the Packers will be absolutely *fine* without public financial aid. It doesn't meet the "but for" standard routinely applied to TIF districts. (tho not TIF, established rules apply). Further, there's a point of diminishing returns for the City: you help where an entity or critical sector needs an assist to get going or stabilize. You don't throw money at a hugely successful, most-valuable franchise when that $$$ will not appreciably increase positive impacts to the City. Setting a precedent that despite the agreed-upon terms, the City will cede the issue and should somehow magically just give in, would be negligent as hell.
It's blatantly economically inefficient as well: there's no bang for the public buck b/c it's happening with or without public financial aid. Policy-wise only a fool would start negotiations by ceding this and yielding on that when the terms of the existing lease support the City's position. That's a losing strategy, the kind only losers embrace. It'd be like giving the Chicago Bears 8 downs instead of 3 on their FIRST series: they're gonna want eight downs every time they get the ball. Fact is, the Packers don't *need* this. If Green Bay invests instead in adjacent civic improvements ahead of the NFL Draft, it'll accelerate momentum toward economic critical mass and the City as a whole is more likely to massively impress it's global peers when Green Bay THE CITY takes the global stage during the NFL Draft.
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