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Post#241 » by DaMplsKid » Thu Oct 17, 2024 3:15 pm

wolves_89 wrote:Three games into the preseason and I'm starting to believe that Minott is going to be ahead of Ingles in the rotation as the team's 9th man. He was the first forward off the bench last night and has outplayed Ingles (and everyone else in the running for 9th man in the rotation) by a wide margin.


I see you posted this on Monday but I think it's even more apparent after lasts nights game. I know Naz was out but Minott still was the 1st forward off the bench and playing really well.

Also something that I think is becoming more apparent is that Dilly is going to have to earn ever minute he gets. DD will be the first off the bench and will probably get 30ish mins. NAW isn't going anywhere as of yet and Finch trust him a lot. Dilly might be able to play when Conley is out but other then that he will have a very short lease and is going to have to do things right out there.
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Post#242 » by Colbinii » Thu Oct 17, 2024 3:19 pm

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wolves_89 wrote:Three games into the preseason and I'm starting to believe that Minott is going to be ahead of Ingles in the rotation as the team's 9th man. He was the first forward off the bench last night and has outplayed Ingles (and everyone else in the running for 9th man in the rotation) by a wide margin.


I see you posted this on Monday but I think it's even more apparent after lasts nights game. I know Naz was out but Minott still was the 1st forward off the bench and playing really well.

Also something that I think is becoming more apparent is that Dilly is going to have to earn ever minute he gets. DD will be the first off the bench and will probably get 30ish mins. NAW isn't going anywhere as of yet and Finch trust him a lot. Dilly might be able to play when Conley is out but other then that he will have a very short lease and is going to have to do things right out there.


Yup, I too am drinking the Minott kool-aid. Looks like the dude who hit puberty and grew 6 inches in one summer and came back to school completely different.

I've been beating the horse on Dilly, glad I was right on this one as he will be developing in Iowa early.
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Post#243 » by winforlose » Thu Oct 17, 2024 3:35 pm

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wolves_89 wrote:Three games into the preseason and I'm starting to believe that Minott is going to be ahead of Ingles in the rotation as the team's 9th man. He was the first forward off the bench last night and has outplayed Ingles (and everyone else in the running for 9th man in the rotation) by a wide margin.


I see you posted this on Monday but I think it's even more apparent after lasts nights game. I know Naz was out but Minott still was the 1st forward off the bench and playing really well.

Also something that I think is becoming more apparent is that Dilly is going to have to earn ever minute he gets. DD will be the first off the bench and will probably get 30ish mins. NAW isn't going anywhere as of yet and Finch trust him a lot. Dilly might be able to play when Conley is out but other then that he will have a very short lease and is going to have to do things right out there.


Which is usually what happens on a contender. There is nothing wrong with a pick needing time to develop, especially at PG.
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Re: Rotation thread 2024/2025 

Post#244 » by DaMplsKid » Thu Oct 17, 2024 4:46 pm

winforlose wrote:
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wolves_89 wrote:Three games into the preseason and I'm starting to believe that Minott is going to be ahead of Ingles in the rotation as the team's 9th man. He was the first forward off the bench last night and has outplayed Ingles (and everyone else in the running for 9th man in the rotation) by a wide margin.


I see you posted this on Monday but I think it's even more apparent after lasts nights game. I know Naz was out but Minott still was the 1st forward off the bench and playing really well.

Also something that I think is becoming more apparent is that Dilly is going to have to earn ever minute he gets. DD will be the first off the bench and will probably get 30ish mins. NAW isn't going anywhere as of yet and Finch trust him a lot. Dilly might be able to play when Conley is out but other then that he will have a very short lease and is going to have to do things right out there.


Which is usually what happens on a contender. There is nothing wrong with a pick needing time to develop, especially at PG.


I am not sure they will send him to Iowa but we will see. I understand sending late round picks down there but I think they want him around the this roster/practice as much as possible. I also think Finch will work him in but he will have to earn it now. I just don't know how long it takes to bring him back up on those back to back nights when Mike sits hopefully. I just think Finch has the ability now to make him earn his minutes which is huge for a player like him.
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Post#245 » by winforlose » Thu Oct 17, 2024 4:59 pm

DaMplsKid wrote:
winforlose wrote:
DaMplsKid wrote:
I see you posted this on Monday but I think it's even more apparent after lasts nights game. I know Naz was out but Minott still was the 1st forward off the bench and playing really well.

Also something that I think is becoming more apparent is that Dilly is going to have to earn ever minute he gets. DD will be the first off the bench and will probably get 30ish mins. NAW isn't going anywhere as of yet and Finch trust him a lot. Dilly might be able to play when Conley is out but other then that he will have a very short lease and is going to have to do things right out there.


Which is usually what happens on a contender. There is nothing wrong with a pick needing time to develop, especially at PG.


I am not sure they will send him to Iowa but we will see. I understand sending late round picks down there but I think they want him around the this roster/practice as much as possible. I also think Finch will work him in but he will have to earn it now. I just don't know how long it takes to bring him back up on those back to back nights when Mike sits hopefully. I just think Finch has the ability now to make him earn his minutes which is huge for a player like him.


When RD is wired for sound he always talks about how close his defender is. He also keeps getting blocked as moves he used in college don’t quite work at the NBA level. I just think some weaker opponents would help him figure some stuff out. Also Iowa plays the same system as the main team. It is a good opportunity to develop his defensive scheme work. I do see the value of keeping him on the bench to learn, but I think some time in Iowa would do him a lot of good.
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Re: Rotation thread 2024/2025 

Post#246 » by BlacJacMac » Thu Oct 17, 2024 5:00 pm

winforlose wrote:
DaMplsKid wrote:
winforlose wrote:
Which is usually what happens on a contender. There is nothing wrong with a pick needing time to develop, especially at PG.


I am not sure they will send him to Iowa but we will see. I understand sending late round picks down there but I think they want him around the this roster/practice as much as possible. I also think Finch will work him in but he will have to earn it now. I just don't know how long it takes to bring him back up on those back to back nights when Mike sits hopefully. I just think Finch has the ability now to make him earn his minutes which is huge for a player like him.


When RD is wired for sound he always talks about how close his defender is. He also keeps getting blocked as moves he used in college don’t quite work at the NBA level. I just think some weaker opponents would help him figure some stuff out. Also Iowa plays the same system as the main team. It is a good opportunity to develop his defensive scheme work. I do see the value of keeping him on the bench to learn, but I think some time in Iowa would do him a lot of good.


Unfortunately, no one actually plays defense in Iowa.
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Post#247 » by winforlose » Thu Oct 17, 2024 5:09 pm

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winforlose wrote:
DaMplsKid wrote:
I am not sure they will send him to Iowa but we will see. I understand sending late round picks down there but I think they want him around the this roster/practice as much as possible. I also think Finch will work him in but he will have to earn it now. I just don't know how long it takes to bring him back up on those back to back nights when Mike sits hopefully. I just think Finch has the ability now to make him earn his minutes which is huge for a player like him.


When RD is wired for sound he always talks about how close his defender is. He also keeps getting blocked as moves he used in college don’t quite work at the NBA level. I just think some weaker opponents would help him figure some stuff out. Also Iowa plays the same system as the main team. It is a good opportunity to develop his defensive scheme work. I do see the value of keeping him on the bench to learn, but I think some time in Iowa would do him a lot of good.


Unfortunately, no one actually plays defense in Iowa.


That is something that needs fixing. The G league is a great tool for player development. But only if mirrors the schemes of the big team. If they cannot defend and/or don’t try to defend it undermines everything.
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Post#248 » by Klomp » Thu Oct 17, 2024 5:13 pm

winforlose wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:
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When RD is wired for sound he always talks about how close his defender is. He also keeps getting blocked as moves he used in college don’t quite work at the NBA level. I just think some weaker opponents would help him figure some stuff out. Also Iowa plays the same system as the main team. It is a good opportunity to develop his defensive scheme work. I do see the value of keeping him on the bench to learn, but I think some time in Iowa would do him a lot of good.


Unfortunately, no one actually plays defense in Iowa.


That is something that needs fixing. The G league is a great tool for player development. But only if mirrors the schemes of the big team. If they cannot defend and/or don’t try to defend it undermines everything.

It's more of a leaguewide structural issue, not one that's focused on just Iowa.
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Re: Rotation thread 2024/2025 

Post#249 » by winforlose » Thu Oct 17, 2024 5:23 pm

Klomp wrote:
winforlose wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:
Unfortunately, no one actually plays defense in Iowa.


That is something that needs fixing. The G league is a great tool for player development. But only if mirrors the schemes of the big team. If they cannot defend and/or don’t try to defend it undermines everything.

It's more of a leaguewide structural issue, not one that's focused on just Iowa.


Fair. That said the NBA and the owners have a lot of power over the G. I feel like they could fix this with pay bonuses or other structured changes. But, either way it is a damn shame. Wasted opportunity to help young players develop their game at the intermediate level before stepping fully into the pros.
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Post#250 » by Klomp » Thu Oct 17, 2024 5:29 pm

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Klomp wrote:
winforlose wrote:
That is something that needs fixing. The G league is a great tool for player development. But only if mirrors the schemes of the big team. If they cannot defend and/or don’t try to defend it undermines everything.

It's more of a leaguewide structural issue, not one that's focused on just Iowa.


Fair. That said the NBA and the owners have a lot of power over the G. I feel like they could fix this with pay bonuses or other structured changes. But, either way it is a damn shame. Wasted opportunity to help young players develop their game at the intermediate level before stepping fully into the pros.

I don't think it's a desire thing that a bonus would fix either.

Think about it: Almost anyone with any defensive chops or the physical attributes to play it are almost surely in the NBA. Guys in the G League are severely lacking in at least one of them, if not both.
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Post#251 » by BlacJacMac » Thu Oct 17, 2024 5:35 pm

Klomp wrote:
winforlose wrote:
Klomp wrote:It's more of a leaguewide structural issue, not one that's focused on just Iowa.


Fair. That said the NBA and the owners have a lot of power over the G. I feel like they could fix this with pay bonuses or other structured changes. But, either way it is a damn shame. Wasted opportunity to help young players develop their game at the intermediate level before stepping fully into the pros.

I don't think it's a desire thing that a bonus would fix either.

Think about it: Almost anyone with any defensive chops or the physical attributes to play it are almost surely in the NBA. Guys in the G League are severely lacking in at least one of them, if not both.


Also I think these guys see their path to being called up is offense. We had a kid in Iowa a few years ago that a virtual Vando clone (defense, switchability, tremendous rebounder). I don't believe he ever got an NBA look.

Jaylen Clark can spend the year in Iowa absolutely hounding guys, but if he doesn't develop enough offense that he has to be guarded, he'll never make it to the NBA/
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Post#252 » by Colbinii » Thu Oct 17, 2024 5:37 pm

DaMplsKid wrote:
winforlose wrote:
DaMplsKid wrote:
I see you posted this on Monday but I think it's even more apparent after lasts nights game. I know Naz was out but Minott still was the 1st forward off the bench and playing really well.

Also something that I think is becoming more apparent is that Dilly is going to have to earn ever minute he gets. DD will be the first off the bench and will probably get 30ish mins. NAW isn't going anywhere as of yet and Finch trust him a lot. Dilly might be able to play when Conley is out but other then that he will have a very short lease and is going to have to do things right out there.


Which is usually what happens on a contender. There is nothing wrong with a pick needing time to develop, especially at PG.


I am not sure they will send him to Iowa but we will see. I understand sending late round picks down there but I think they want him around the this roster/practice as much as possible. I also think Finch will work him in but he will have to earn it now. I just don't know how long it takes to bring him back up on those back to back nights when Mike sits hopefully. I just think Finch has the ability now to make him earn his minutes which is huge for a player like him.


There is nothing stopping a player from practicing and sitting on the bench for Timberwolves games and also playing in Iowa.
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Post#253 » by Klomp » Thu Oct 17, 2024 6:10 pm

Colbinii wrote:
DaMplsKid wrote:
winforlose wrote:
Which is usually what happens on a contender. There is nothing wrong with a pick needing time to develop, especially at PG.


I am not sure they will send him to Iowa but we will see. I understand sending late round picks down there but I think they want him around the this roster/practice as much as possible. I also think Finch will work him in but he will have to earn it now. I just don't know how long it takes to bring him back up on those back to back nights when Mike sits hopefully. I just think Finch has the ability now to make him earn his minutes which is huge for a player like him.


There is nothing stopping a player from practicing and sitting on the bench for Timberwolves games and also playing in Iowa.

True, but usually, they want guys around the team as much as possible.

If you had to ask me an over/under on how many games Rob will play for Iowa, I'd set the line at 1.5....and I think I'd lean the under.
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Post#254 » by Klomp » Thu Oct 17, 2024 6:24 pm

Can't get this in Iowa.

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Post#255 » by KGdaBom » Thu Oct 17, 2024 6:49 pm

Colbinii wrote:
DaMplsKid wrote:
wolves_89 wrote:Three games into the preseason and I'm starting to believe that Minott is going to be ahead of Ingles in the rotation as the team's 9th man. He was the first forward off the bench last night and has outplayed Ingles (and everyone else in the running for 9th man in the rotation) by a wide margin.


I see you posted this on Monday but I think it's even more apparent after lasts nights game. I know Naz was out but Minott still was the 1st forward off the bench and playing really well.

Also something that I think is becoming more apparent is that Dilly is going to have to earn ever minute he gets. DD will be the first off the bench and will probably get 30ish mins. NAW isn't going anywhere as of yet and Finch trust him a lot. Dilly might be able to play when Conley is out but other then that he will have a very short lease and is going to have to do things right out there.


Yup, I too am drinking the Minott kool-aid. Looks like the dude who hit puberty and grew 6 inches in one summer and came back to school completely different.

I've been beating the horse on Dilly, glad I was right on this one as he will be developing in Iowa early.

I'm still hopeful that you're wrong on this one and he spends zero minutes in Iowa.
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Post#256 » by KGdaBom » Thu Oct 17, 2024 6:51 pm

BlacJacMac wrote:
winforlose wrote:
DaMplsKid wrote:
I am not sure they will send him to Iowa but we will see. I understand sending late round picks down there but I think they want him around the this roster/practice as much as possible. I also think Finch will work him in but he will have to earn it now. I just don't know how long it takes to bring him back up on those back to back nights when Mike sits hopefully. I just think Finch has the ability now to make him earn his minutes which is huge for a player like him.


When RD is wired for sound he always talks about how close his defender is. He also keeps getting blocked as moves he used in college don’t quite work at the NBA level. I just think some weaker opponents would help him figure some stuff out. Also Iowa plays the same system as the main team. It is a good opportunity to develop his defensive scheme work. I do see the value of keeping him on the bench to learn, but I think some time in Iowa would do him a lot of good.


Unfortunately, no one actually plays defense in Iowa.

Yep. Time spent in Iowa would do him a lot of bad.
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Post#257 » by Colbinii » Thu Oct 17, 2024 9:03 pm

Klomp wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
DaMplsKid wrote:
I am not sure they will send him to Iowa but we will see. I understand sending late round picks down there but I think they want him around the this roster/practice as much as possible. I also think Finch will work him in but he will have to earn it now. I just don't know how long it takes to bring him back up on those back to back nights when Mike sits hopefully. I just think Finch has the ability now to make him earn his minutes which is huge for a player like him.


There is nothing stopping a player from practicing and sitting on the bench for Timberwolves games and also playing in Iowa.

True, but usually, they want guys around the team as much as possible.

If you had to ask me an over/under on how many games Rob will play for Iowa, I'd set the line at 1.5....and I think I'd lean the under.


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Post#258 » by winforlose » Thu Oct 17, 2024 9:53 pm

I was listening to Dane talk about Jingles and how he may be saving his energy for the regular season. I hope so, because Jingles has been unplayable so far. If he cannot defend he also cannot play with RD or Garza and that can be tricky to accommodate.
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Post#259 » by Sealab2024 » Thu Oct 17, 2024 10:31 pm

winforlose wrote:I was listening to Dane talk about Jingles and how he may be saving his energy for the regular season. I hope so, because Jingles has been unplayable so far. If he cannot defend he also cannot play with RD or Garza and that can be tricky to accommodate.


I don't think it matters with how Minott has been playing. The bench at this point is

Naz
DDV
NAW
Minott

Dillingham depending on how this all acts out.

I don't think there's time for Joe. Honestly if there is time for an extra big I'd rather it go to Luka who will always be a below average defender in space but has improved, from what I've seen, on his interior work. Meanwhile he's never not put points up when in a game.
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Post#260 » by winforlose » Thu Oct 17, 2024 10:48 pm

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winforlose wrote:I was listening to Dane talk about Jingles and how he may be saving his energy for the regular season. I hope so, because Jingles has been unplayable so far. If he cannot defend he also cannot play with RD or Garza and that can be tricky to accommodate.


I don't think it matters with how Minott has been playing. The bench at this point is

Naz
DDV
NAW
Minott

Dillingham depending on how this all acts out.

I don't think there's time for Joe. Honestly if there is time for an extra big I'd rather it go to Luka who will always be a below average defender in space but has improved, from what I've seen, on his interior work. Meanwhile he's never not put points up when in a game.


Do you mean Ingles? Also I agree, Minott is the better and more valuable player over Ingles because Minott has a higher defensive upside while shooting well enough to force defenders to respect him. Could that change, absolutely, but for now that is where I am at.

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