OT: Clinton or Bush?

[Clyde_Style]

I think it’s you that don’t know how inflation works lol. Kamala’s has been a complete disaster. I’m really not sure how to else to explain how the ridiculously large amounts of money (that the US didn’t have…see skyrocketing deficits) that is being burned on nonsense and irresponsible spending being the cause of inflation. Thats on this administration. Not Trump. Let me guess you listened to some clips from MSNBC or some leftie with some random sound bites about how Trump caused inflation and believed it right!

No. You are the one here repeating what you hear on FAUX News. Total bullshyt. The spending that BOTH administrations pushed through for the pandemic is what caused the inflation. His economic policies from before the pandemic helped exacerbate the problem. You can't be serious.

I am done now.

Again I would suggest you actually do some independent investigation on what the causes of inflation are and you’ll see that what the current administration has been doing has been igniting it more than any previous administration even as far back to the 70s. Try to stick away from mainstream media when you do your own investigation. And it’s only going to get worse if Kamala gets into office and does what she’s hinted at (reparations, college loan excuse, $50,000 for illegal immigrants to use as down payment for new homes, continued billions to Ukraine, etc.

Every presidency inherits the economy from the previous president and it takes several years for economic outcomes to manifest. This is so well known in economics that every person who complains about Bidenomics flags themselves as an economic illiterate. Biden has tamed the inflation left by Trump and more jobs have been created than any time since the Great Depression. Some of those jobs are due directly to public works projects for infrastructure funded by Biden's legislation. Trump passed no legislation of note during his presidency other than a tax cut for the wealthy.

[RHODEY]

It's alright for me. You know I never dog you in other threads and keep it clean.

As far as the Obama thing goes, nah, I'm not here to lecture people on how to live up to some ideal related to their ethnicity. It's not my orientation.

While I can't speak for Obama I do find it strange to see anyone who is not caucasian voting for Trump as he is so obviously a racist and a white nationalist. Whatever resentments a black american person may have towards the establishment, there is no way I can understand how the GOP is seen as an alternative to traditional politics in any way that benefits african americans.

I mean Trump just said he'd like to see a national holiday where the cops and military could purge whomever they want. Do you welcome that day? You think it would go well in non-white neighborhoods on purge days?

That's horror movie stuff and he just said it the other day. He's a sick man and he is not your friend. So, yeah, I understand why Obama would ask younger black men to not walk into the arms of their enemy even if you have no love for the democrats.

Some Black men (who I know) feel Biden and the Democrats are more racist , using low grade fried chicken and twerking campaigns to get us to vote for them. They think having stripper rappers like Megan the Stallion twerk forus will get us to vote for them...how racist is that? This is what they think of us.

Watch on YouTube

We see Kamala as a phony, who is cosplaying as black woman, . We see the whole "Trump is the boogyman" message as a way to manipulate us into voting for a party that has neglected our needs for the the last 60 years...this is despite out unwavering loyalty to their party.

Bro Trump thinks dudes like you identify with him because he's a convicted criminal. He went on a rant on national television that Black people eat cats and dogs. Seriously????

If you have beef with the DNC that's your right, but when you start getting into that Harris is "cosplaying a Black woman" horsesh*t because she's Jamaican and Indian, i can't f*ck with it because now you're throwing shade on all Caribbean Americans with that kind of rhetoric. Nah. Ain't no "we" here. Speak for your f*cking self.

There are a plenty of things that Harris can be criticized about, but when you start going there i see zero substance to your argument, aside from some thinly veiled misogyny, wanting to insult other Black people for having a different background from you, and singing the praises of Donald Trump, a white supremacist rapist and convicted criminal.

You have a habit of attacking the speaker. and making false accusations. Nowhere did I insult black people for having a different background from me. I pointed out that Obama is not one of us /not for us and I stand by that. If other group can delineate as a dinstict lineage culture why is "insulting" when Black Americans do it?

I think Biden is a racist segrationalist based on things he's said and done....I think Kamala is a phony....but at the end of the day I try to focus on the policies because I think Boogeyman tactics are tools used to appeal to Emotion and not facts.

I have to admit though the democrats are better at coating dodo with sugar...sweet sugary no substantive slogans that amount to nothing, meanwhile their policies are destroying the fabric of the nation. So go ahead and keep attacking the person for DISAGREEING with you...its so predictable and kinda funny

[RHODEY]

You're posting content from a dude i just told you is an antisemitic holocaust denier who has made bigoted comments about gays in the past. Like Lord Jamar is a hateful piece of sh*t. He called Kamala a bitch ffs.

And it bothered you not one bit.

I'm just saying dude, you and other MAGAs post stuff from sources that are known for stoking violence, racism, antisemitism etc. What do you expect people to think about you????

Defame the speaker ignore the message...so predictable.

What kind of message should we be taking from a holocaust denier that calls Harris a "diggy broad" and a "bitch"?

I think this deserve another thread, because from what I read he never denied the Holocaust he just didnt agree with the numbers. We can discuss whether that makes him (or me for questioning your accusation) an anti semite in another thread if you want.

[Jalen Bluntson]

ANYWAY. Back to the truth of things. Trump is toast. He can't keep up with the rigors of campaigning anymore. He also can't afford it anymore either. He doesn't pay his bills. He's a racist rapist who worship's every leader from the countries that are a direct threat to our country. He has Musk running around repeating the same lies he's been telling for the last 4 years about election fraud. It's just a neverending rinse and repeat roll out of lies.

I hope he loses and then goes to jail so the rest of the country can try to heal. If he wins...we are screwed.

[Clyde_Style]

Rhodey, you seem to admire Trump for his strength or for policies you think make America strong.

Trump is the most effeminate, swishy weirdo I've ever seem in a politician's suit. The way he talks is like he is a parody of being queer. He's so damn wimpy. He faked his medical exams to get out of military service while he insults our military as suckers and losers. Is that manly?

Just curious how you project strength on to such a pathetic wretch of a man. He can't even get his bronzer put on correctly and his little pink ears stick out like a cartoon character. He's so embarrassing to even look at.

I dunno man, to be able to elevate a lifelong drug addict and serial rapist as a strong man is one hell of a fiction you've got going on in your mind.

[DOT]

ANYWAY. Back to the truth of things. Trump is toast. He can't keep up with the rigors of campaigning anymore

Dude’s old. He just looks tired.

[Fury]

Some Black men (who I know) feel Biden and the Democrats are more racist , using low grade fried chicken and twerking campaigns to get us to vote for them. They think having stripper rappers like Megan the Stallion twerk forus will get us to vote for them...how racist is that? This is what they think of us.

Watch on YouTube

We see Kamala as a phony, who is cosplaying as black woman, . We see the whole "Trump is the boogyman" message as a way to manipulate us into voting for a party that has neglected our needs for the the last 60 years...this is despite out unwavering loyalty to their party.

Bro Trump thinks dudes like you identify with him because he's a convicted criminal. He went on a rant on national television that Black people eat cats and dogs. Seriously????

If you have beef with the DNC that's your right, but when you start getting into that Harris is "cosplaying a Black woman" horsesh*t because she's Jamaican and Indian, i can't f*ck with it because now you're throwing shade on all Caribbean Americans with that kind of rhetoric. Nah. Ain't no "we" here. Speak for your f*cking self.

There are a plenty of things that Harris can be criticized about, but when you start going there i see zero substance to your argument, aside from some thinly veiled misogyny, wanting to insult other Black people for having a different background from you, and singing the praises of Donald Trump, a white supremacist rapist and convicted criminal.

You have a habit of attacking the speaker. and making false accusations. Nowhere did I insult black people for having a different background from me. I pointed out that Obama is not one of us /not for us and I stand by that. If other group can delineate as a dinstict lineage culture why is "insulting" when Black Americans do it?

I think Biden is a racist segrationalist based on things he's said and done....I think Kamala is a phony....but at the end of the day I try to focus on the policies because I think Boogeyman tactics are tools used to appeal to Emotion and not facts.

I have to admit though the democrats are better at coating dodo with sugar...sweet sugary no substantive slogans that amount to nothing, meanwhile their policies are destroying the fabric of the nation. So go ahead and keep attacking the person for DISAGREEING with you...its so predictable and kinda funny

You somehow see through this. You're so special. Every other Black person who votes Democrat (overwhelmingly Democrat) is just gullible but you are a special super intelligent person who sees through this.

BTW, this is what Trump thinks will get the Black vote:

https://www.newsweek.com/forgiato-blow-trump-rapper-maga-amber-rose-1927209

Read on Twitter

But you say nothing about this? You're a **** fraud, dude.

[kNicksGmen]

ANYWAY. Back to the truth of things. Trump is toast. He can't keep up with the rigors of campaigning anymore. He also can't afford it anymore either. He doesn't pay his bills. He's a racist rapist who worship's every leader from the countries that are a direct threat to our country. He has Musk running around repeating the same lies he's been telling for the last 4 years about election fraud. It's just a neverending rinse and repeat roll out of lies.

I hope he loses and then goes to jail so the rest of the country can try to heal. If he wins...we are screwed.

I'm not into politics but the odds have swung greatly in favor of trump recently. My boss won't stop complaining to me about it every day and how we're all doomed.

[Jalen Bluntson]

ANYWAY. Back to the truth of things. Trump is toast. He can't keep up with the rigors of campaigning anymore. He also can't afford it anymore either. He doesn't pay his bills. He's a racist rapist who worship's every leader from the countries that are a direct threat to our country. He has Musk running around repeating the same lies he's been telling for the last 4 years about election fraud. It's just a neverending rinse and repeat roll out of lies.

I hope he loses and then goes to jail so the rest of the country can try to heal. If he wins...we are screwed.

I'm not into politics but the odds have swung greatly in favor of trump recently. My boss won't stop complaining to me about it every day and how we're all doomed.

No they haven't. Junk polls are being pushed to set up his next attempt at claiming the election is being stolen. Everywhere else it is being pushed as tight race.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Here is the stable genius giving his policy details.

Here is the text version of his full response to the parents of dead children who were victims of schools shootings! This is his gun control plan in FULL DETAIL!

We have a Second Amendment and right to bear arms, essentially,” Trump said. “And I’m very strongly an advocate of that — I think you need that. I think that if you ever tried to get rid of it, you wouldn’t be able to do it. You wouldn’t be able to take away the guns, because people need that for security. They need it for entertainment, and for sport and other things — but they also, in many cases, need it for protection.”

“You want to have a lot of good people have [guns],” the former president said. “But if we didn’t have that, you would see a crime rate that’s crazy.”

“She wants to take everybody’s gun away, you know she’s always wanted that,” Trump said. “That’s because, uh, that’s what she wants. She wants to take everybody’s gun. You know who will never give their guns up? The bad guy. The bad guy’s not giving up the guns. So that’s what we have. We want safety, we want security, but you have to still adhere to the Second Amendment.”

[Clyde_Style]

ANYWAY. Back to the truth of things. Trump is toast. He can't keep up with the rigors of campaigning anymore. He also can't afford it anymore either. He doesn't pay his bills. He's a racist rapist who worship's every leader from the countries that are a direct threat to our country. He has Musk running around repeating the same lies he's been telling for the last 4 years about election fraud. It's just a neverending rinse and repeat roll out of lies.

I hope he loses and then goes to jail so the rest of the country can try to heal. If he wins...we are screwed.

I'm not into politics but the odds have swung greatly in favor of trump recently. My boss won't stop complaining to me about it every day and how we're all doomed.

Nah, that's untrue. Trump continues to implode and the only thing he's doing is losing voters. He's not doing anything to gain new voters. Meanwhile, early voting results reflect a strong Democrat turnout so you and your boss are consuming fear monger news it seems

[RHODEY]

ANYWAY. Back to the truth of things. Trump is toast. He can't keep up with the rigors of campaigning anymore. He also can't afford it anymore either. He doesn't pay his bills. He's a racist rapist who worship's every leader from the countries that are a direct threat to our country. He has Musk running around repeating the same lies he's been telling for the last 4 years about election fraud. It's just a neverending rinse and repeat roll out of lies.

I hope he loses and then goes to jail so the rest of the country can try to heal. If he wins...we are screwed.

I'm not into politics but the odds have swung greatly in favor of trump recently. My boss won't stop complaining to me about it every day and how we're all doomed.

I think the odds have swung because people are seeing what Kamala brings to the table and they feel that with her as President we are more doomed.

[kNicksGmen]

ANYWAY. Back to the truth of things. Trump is toast. He can't keep up with the rigors of campaigning anymore. He also can't afford it anymore either. He doesn't pay his bills. He's a racist rapist who worship's every leader from the countries that are a direct threat to our country. He has Musk running around repeating the same lies he's been telling for the last 4 years about election fraud. It's just a neverending rinse and repeat roll out of lies.

I hope he loses and then goes to jail so the rest of the country can try to heal. If he wins...we are screwed.

I'm not into politics but the odds have swung greatly in favor of trump recently. My boss won't stop complaining to me about it every day and how we're all doomed.

No they haven't. Junk polls are being pushed to set up his next attempt at claiming the election is being stolen. Everywhere else it is being pushed as tight race.

The polls have swung but also the betting markets, which is what i was referring to. They have it around 60/40 in favor of trump now. A few weeks ago it was in favor of Harris slightly.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2024/10/17/trumps-polymarket-odds-top-60-how-election-betting-markets-differ-from-polls/

ANYWAY. Back to the truth of things. Trump is toast. He can't keep up with the rigors of campaigning anymore. He also can't afford it anymore either. He doesn't pay his bills. He's a racist rapist who worship's every leader from the countries that are a direct threat to our country. He has Musk running around repeating the same lies he's been telling for the last 4 years about election fraud. It's just a neverending rinse and repeat roll out of lies.

I hope he loses and then goes to jail so the rest of the country can try to heal. If he wins...we are screwed.

I'm not into politics but the odds have swung greatly in favor of trump recently. My boss won't stop complaining to me about it every day and how we're all doomed.

Nah, that's untrue. Trump continues to implode and the only thing he's doing is losing voters. He's not doing anything to gain new voters. Meanwhile, early voting results reflect a strong Democrat turnout so you and your boss are consuming fear monger news it seems

I mean the numbers are what they are. You think Harris does that interview with Fox if she was still favored? Trump has been cancelling interviews because he's pulled ahead the past few weeks.


there's still time for that to change but the trend has been in favor of trump the past few weeks. My boss definitely consumes a lot of politic media but it's all dem favored for sure. if the dems are putting out that fear mongering, could be a good strategy to get a better turnout. if people think harris is going to win i assume less trump haters would vote.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Bro Trump thinks dudes like you identify with him because he's a convicted criminal. He went on a rant on national television that Black people eat cats and dogs. Seriously????

If you have beef with the DNC that's your right, but when you start getting into that Harris is "cosplaying a Black woman" horsesh*t because she's Jamaican and Indian, i can't f*ck with it because now you're throwing shade on all Caribbean Americans with that kind of rhetoric. Nah. Ain't no "we" here. Speak for your f*cking self.

There are a plenty of things that Harris can be criticized about, but when you start going there i see zero substance to your argument, aside from some thinly veiled misogyny, wanting to insult other Black people for having a different background from you, and singing the praises of Donald Trump, a white supremacist rapist and convicted criminal.

You have a habit of attacking the speaker. and making false accusations. Nowhere did I insult black people for having a different background from me. I pointed out that Obama is not one of us /not for us and I stand by that. If other group can delineate as a dinstict lineage culture why is "insulting" when Black Americans do it?

I think Biden is a racist segrationalist based on things he's said and done....I think Kamala is a phony....but at the end of the day I try to focus on the policies because I think Boogeyman tactics are tools used to appeal to Emotion and not facts.

I have to admit though the democrats are better at coating dodo with sugar...sweet sugary no substantive slogans that amount to nothing, meanwhile their policies are destroying the fabric of the nation. So go ahead and keep attacking the person for DISAGREEING with you...its so predictable and kinda funny

You somehow see through this. You're so special. Every other Black person who votes Democrat (overwhelmingly Democrat) is just gullible but you are a special super intelligent person who sees through this.

BTW, this is what Trump thinks will get the Black vote:

https://www.newsweek.com/forgiato-blow-trump-rapper-maga-amber-rose-1927209

Read on Twitter

But you say nothing about this? You're a **** fraud, dude.

I know politics get people heated bro but, the insults/personal attacks get the thread locked. We don't want that. This is the longest running political thread in history on here. Don't ruin for the rest of us. Plus, Rhodey is cool. He just has different views. You can express your opposite opinion without the insults. I have been guilty of the same thing so, I am speaking from experience. It's not a healthy discussion when we go too far in on one another. The mods won't allow it either.

Just my 2 cents.

[Clyde_Style]

I'm not into politics but the odds have swung greatly in favor of trump recently. My boss won't stop complaining to me about it every day and how we're all doomed.

No they haven't. Junk polls are being pushed to set up his next attempt at claiming the election is being stolen. Everywhere else it is being pushed as tight race.

The polls have swung but also the betting markets, which is what i was referring to. They have it around 60/40 in favor of trump now. A few weeks ago it was in favor of Harris slightly.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2024/10/17/trumps-polymarket-odds-top-60-how-election-betting-markets-differ-from-polls/

I'm not into politics but the odds have swung greatly in favor of trump recently. My boss won't stop complaining to me about it every day and how we're all doomed.

Nah, that's untrue. Trump continues to implode and the only thing he's doing is losing voters. He's not doing anything to gain new voters. Meanwhile, early voting results reflect a strong Democrat turnout so you and your boss are consuming fear monger news it seems

I mean the numbers are what they are. You think Harris does that interview with Fox if she was still favored? Trump has been cancelling interviews because he's pulled ahead the past few weeks.


there's still time for that to change but the trend has been in favor of trump the past few weeks.

you haven't been paying attention to the last 4 years. Polls have been wrong every time since 2020 and Dems have outperformed predictions. Early voting turnout says your data is purely hypothetical and wishful

[RHODEY]

You have a habit of attacking the speaker. and making false accusations. Nowhere did I insult black people for having a different background from me. I pointed out that Obama is not one of us /not for us and I stand by that. If other group can delineate as a dinstict lineage culture why is "insulting" when Black Americans do it?

I think Biden is a racist segrationalist based on things he's said and done....I think Kamala is a phony....but at the end of the day I try to focus on the policies because I think Boogeyman tactics are tools used to appeal to Emotion and not facts.

I have to admit though the democrats are better at coating dodo with sugar...sweet sugary no substantive slogans that amount to nothing, meanwhile their policies are destroying the fabric of the nation. So go ahead and keep attacking the person for DISAGREEING with you...its so predictable and kinda funny

You somehow see through this. You're so special. Every other Black person who votes Democrat (overwhelmingly Democrat) is just gullible but you are a special super intelligent person who sees through this.

BTW, this is what Trump thinks will get the Black vote:

https://www.newsweek.com/forgiato-blow-trump-rapper-maga-amber-rose-1927209

Read on Twitter

But you say nothing about this? You're a **** fraud, dude.

I know politics get people heated bro but, the insults/personal attacks get the thread locked. We don't want that. This is the longest running political thread in history on here. Don't ruin for the rest of us. Plus, Rhodey is cool. He just has different views. You can express your opposite opinion without the insults. I have been guilty of the same thing so, I am speaking from experience. It's not a healthy discussion when we go too far in on one another. The mods won't allow it either.

Just my 2 cents.

Never saw the insult , I been had this dude on Ignore....he's mad

[Jalen Bluntson]

I'm not into politics but the odds have swung greatly in favor of trump recently. My boss won't stop complaining to me about it every day and how we're all doomed.

No they haven't. Junk polls are being pushed to set up his next attempt at claiming the election is being stolen. Everywhere else it is being pushed as tight race.

The polls have swung but also the betting markets, which is what i was referring to. They have it around 60/40 in favor of trump now. A few weeks ago it was in favor of Harris slightly.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2024/10/17/trumps-polymarket-odds-top-60-how-election-betting-markets-differ-from-polls/

I'm not into politics but the odds have swung greatly in favor of trump recently. My boss won't stop complaining to me about it every day and how we're all doomed.

Nah, that's untrue. Trump continues to implode and the only thing he's doing is losing voters. He's not doing anything to gain new voters. Meanwhile, early voting results reflect a strong Democrat turnout so you and your boss are consuming fear monger news it seems

I mean the numbers are what they are. You think Harris does that interview with Fox if she was still favored? Trump has been cancelling interviews because he's pulled ahead the past few weeks.


there's still time for that to change but the trend has been in favor of trump the past few weeks.

They want people to take the suckers bet. That's how gambling works. Do not trust polls because they are a tool of manipulation and they have been way off the last bunch of years.

Drop a c note on Harris and thank me later.

[DOT]

Polymarket is a crypto betting site which you need a VPN to access in the US. Both those factors skew the market

Allegedly, one person has bet $25 million on Trump in recent days, which explains the shift.

[kNicksGmen]

No they haven't. Junk polls are being pushed to set up his next attempt at claiming the election is being stolen. Everywhere else it is being pushed as tight race.

The polls have swung but also the betting markets, which is what i was referring to. They have it around 60/40 in favor of trump now. A few weeks ago it was in favor of Harris slightly.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2024/10/17/trumps-polymarket-odds-top-60-how-election-betting-markets-differ-from-polls/

Nah, that's untrue. Trump continues to implode and the only thing he's doing is losing voters. He's not doing anything to gain new voters. Meanwhile, early voting results reflect a strong Democrat turnout so you and your boss are consuming fear monger news it seems

I mean the numbers are what they are. You think Harris does that interview with Fox if she was still favored? Trump has been cancelling interviews because he's pulled ahead the past few weeks.


there's still time for that to change but the trend has been in favor of trump the past few weeks.

you haven't been paying attention to the last 4 years. Polls have been wrong every time since 2020 and Dems have outperformed predictions. Early voting turnout says your data is purely hypothetical and wishful

like i said the numbers are what they are. it isn't "my data" lol

you're right i haven't been paying attention, because i'm not into politics. was just passing on the info. my opinion would be it's smart for the media/dems to push the narrative that trump is pulling ahead to motivate people to get out to vote. if people think harris is going to win, then maybe less people turn out to vote that otherwise would have voted for her.

we've had 3 straight presidential elections with terrible candidates. America needs to do better. I liked Bernie but the DNC killed him. and for the record if anything i want kamala to win so I don't have to listen to my boss complain about trump every single day for another 4 years.

[MrDollarBills]

Some Black men (who I know) feel Biden and the Democrats are more racist , using low grade fried chicken and twerking campaigns to get us to vote for them. They think having stripper rappers like Megan the Stallion twerk forus will get us to vote for them...how racist is that? This is what they think of us.

Watch on YouTube

We see Kamala as a phony, who is cosplaying as black woman, . We see the whole "Trump is the boogyman" message as a way to manipulate us into voting for a party that has neglected our needs for the the last 60 years...this is despite out unwavering loyalty to their party.

Bro Trump thinks dudes like you identify with him because he's a convicted criminal. He went on a rant on national television that Black people eat cats and dogs. Seriously????

If you have beef with the DNC that's your right, but when you start getting into that Harris is "cosplaying a Black woman" horsesh*t because she's Jamaican and Indian, i can't f*ck with it because now you're throwing shade on all Caribbean Americans with that kind of rhetoric. Nah. Ain't no "we" here. Speak for your f*cking self.

There are a plenty of things that Harris can be criticized about, but when you start going there i see zero substance to your argument, aside from some thinly veiled misogyny, wanting to insult other Black people for having a different background from you, and singing the praises of Donald Trump, a white supremacist rapist and convicted criminal.

You have a habit of attacking the speaker. and making false accusations. Nowhere did I insult black people for having a different background from me. I pointed out that Obama is not one of us /not for us and I stand by that. If other group can delineate as a dinstict lineage culture why is "insulting" when Black Americans do it?

I think Biden is a racist segrationalist based on things he's said and done....I think Kamala is a phony....but at the end of the day I try to focus on the policies because I think Boogeyman tactics are tools used to appeal to Emotion and not facts.

I have to admit though the democrats are better at coating dodo with sugar...sweet sugary no substantive slogans that amount to nothing, meanwhile their policies are destroying the fabric of the nation. So go ahead and keep attacking the person for DISAGREEING with you...its so predictable and kinda funny

You made a wildly offensive comment about Harris and frankly, Caribbean Americans just like her including myself. If you take me calling out that horsesh*t as a personal attack on you for saying something so wildly ignorant and offensive, you may want to do some self reflection as to why you're taking my rebuttal so personally.