Clax to MEM in January

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Clax to MEM in January 

Post#1 » by esvl » Fri Oct 18, 2024 2:41 pm

Claxton

for

Clarke
Kennard
Aldama
FRP (lottery protected)

Memphis would get Ja’s buddy to become even more dominant in rim protection and defence overall. Edey would play off of the bench and replace Clarke’s finishing skills on offense. His rotation with Clax would provide some insurance against injuries. Kennard is replaceable by Wells and Spencer, Aldama by GG and LRV.

Brooklyn would get a good veteran in Clarke and promising young big (a light version of Lauri) whose age fits the team’s timeline. Both are decent tradeable assets. Clowney, Sharpe, Aldama, and Clarke is a versatile set of legit bigs. Another FRP would allow the team to make a big move when the right time comes.
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Re: Clax to MEM in January 

Post#2 » by _GH0ST_ » Fri Oct 18, 2024 3:02 pm

I think Claxton is more expensive than this. He's played over 70 games a season, has a bargain contract and he is still not old.

Clarke and Kennard don't have much value. Aldama is good but not great. Your pick should be unprotected and add few seconds or swaps.
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Re: Clax to MEM in January 

Post#3 » by ecuhus1981 » Fri Oct 18, 2024 3:11 pm

Meh, it's alright but I'll politely pass for Brooklyn. Honestly, I don't even think that MEM needs this deal, they have solid coverage at the 5.
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Re: Clax to MEM in January 

Post#4 » by Colbinii » Fri Oct 18, 2024 3:31 pm

_GH0ST_ wrote:I think Claxton is more expensive than this. He's played over 70 games a season, has a bargain contract and he is still not old.

Clarke and Kennard don't have much value. Aldama is good but not great. Your pick should be unprotected and add few seconds or swaps.


How is 28 Million this year considered a bargain?
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Re: Clax to MEM in January 

Post#5 » by MessiahUjiri » Fri Oct 18, 2024 3:34 pm

If Brooklyn thinks this is too cheap for Claxton, Raps will step in and do it for Poeltl. He’s a little less valuable than Clax IMO, but also paid less.
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Re: Clax to MEM in January 

Post#6 » by daoneandonly » Fri Oct 18, 2024 3:38 pm

I lean more on the side that Claxton gets overrated on these boards, but this is way too light for him
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Re: Clax to MEM in January 

Post#7 » by esvl » Fri Oct 18, 2024 4:04 pm

MessiahUjiri wrote:If Brooklyn thinks this is too cheap for Claxton, Raps will step in and do it for Poeltl. He’s a little less valuable than Clax IMO, but also paid less.


Poeltl is a solid player, but I doubt MEM has any interest in him, to say the least.
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Re: Clax to MEM in January 

Post#8 » by DarkXaero » Fri Oct 18, 2024 4:08 pm

I think if you reduce the protection on that FRP a fair bit or add a 2nd round pick, I probably do this for Nets.
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Re: Clax to MEM in January 

Post#9 » by louc1970 » Fri Oct 18, 2024 4:23 pm

I would say swap out Clarke and request Edey.
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Re: Clax to MEM in January 

Post#10 » by BlazersBroncos » Fri Oct 18, 2024 4:31 pm

louc1970 wrote:I would say swap out Clarke and request Edey.


There isnt a chance MEM takes that.

I think reducing the protection to Top-4 makes this much more attractive to BRK - probably adding a few SRP as well.
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Re: Clax to MEM in January 

Post#11 » by JRoy » Fri Oct 18, 2024 4:46 pm

esvl wrote:Claxton

for

Clarke
Kennard
Aldama
FRP (lottery protected)

Memphis would get Ja’s buddy to become even more dominant in rim protection and defence overall. Edey would play off of the bench and replace Clarke’s finishing skills on offense. His rotation with Clax would provide some insurance against injuries. Kennard is replaceable by Wells and Spencer, Aldama by GG and LRV.

Brooklyn would get a good veteran in Clarke and promising young big (a light version of Lauri) whose age fits the team’s timeline. Both are decent tradeable assets. Clowney, Sharpe, Aldama, and Clarke is a versatile set of legit bigs. Another FRP would allow the team to make a big move when the right time comes.


Why would BKN downgrade like this? What is the payoff?

No players with upside, no good picks.
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Re: Clax to MEM in January 

Post#12 » by louc1970 » Fri Oct 18, 2024 4:55 pm

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louc1970 wrote:I would say swap out Clarke and request Edey.


There isnt a chance MEM takes that.

I think reducing the protection to Top-4 makes this much more attractive to BRK - probably adding a few SRP as well.

The incentive for Brooklyn is not there if they do not get a young player to build around.
Aldama is not it, Kennard is simply for salary matching, Clarke is not good enough. A protected pick does not get a team Claxton. If it were that cheap, NOP would be jumping for their center.
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Re: Clax to MEM in January 

Post#13 » by gswhoops » Fri Oct 18, 2024 4:57 pm

The value's light but not insultingly so, but (as others have noted) the bigger question is what gets Brooklyn to say yes here. A couple meh players and a lottery protected first doesn't offer much upside.
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Re: Clax to MEM in January 

Post#14 » by psman2 » Fri Oct 18, 2024 5:06 pm

I think this is Claxton's trade value, but I don't think we want that contract. He is a backup here if Edey is the real deal. I think with his ability to court on the perimeter would allow him to play with Edey some, but still not ideal on his contract.
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Re: Clax to MEM in January 

Post#15 » by ConSarnit » Fri Oct 18, 2024 5:17 pm

JRoy wrote:
esvl wrote:Claxton

for

Clarke
Kennard
Aldama
FRP (lottery protected)

Memphis would get Ja’s buddy to become even more dominant in rim protection and defence overall. Edey would play off of the bench and replace Clarke’s finishing skills on offense. His rotation with Clax would provide some insurance against injuries. Kennard is replaceable by Wells and Spencer, Aldama by GG and LRV.

Brooklyn would get a good veteran in Clarke and promising young big (a light version of Lauri) whose age fits the team’s timeline. Both are decent tradeable assets. Clowney, Sharpe, Aldama, and Clarke is a versatile set of legit bigs. Another FRP would allow the team to make a big move when the right time comes.


Why would BKN downgrade like this? What is the payoff?

No players with upside, no good picks.


This isn't that far off the going rate for guys like Claxton (Centers who fall somewhere between 15-20 ranking position-wise). Look at what Claxton's contemporaries have gone for over the past 5 years. Poeltl, Capela, Allen, Adams. The average value these guys are returning is somewhere between the 15th-20th pick. Maybe MEM needs to throw in a 2nd but the value isn't that far off based on recent history. The C market is not strong right now because almost everyone has a "solid" center and the one's that don't are the bottom feeders that don't really have a need for one. If MEM is willing to wait until JAN that could also drive the price down as someone like Poeltl could shake loose and the asking price wouldn't be that high (non-lotto 1st). Maybe they take a flier on RW3 for cheap. I personally don't believe the market for non top 10 C's is all that strong. I will concede that BKN holding Claxton makes sense as his contract is declining and that could up his value for a trade for next off-season (or even the one after). I just don't know if it's ever going to get into guaranteed lotto pick territory.
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Re: Clax to MEM in January 

Post#16 » by JRoy » Fri Oct 18, 2024 5:26 pm

ConSarnit wrote:
JRoy wrote:
esvl wrote:Claxton

for

Clarke
Kennard
Aldama
FRP (lottery protected)

Memphis would get Ja’s buddy to become even more dominant in rim protection and defence overall. Edey would play off of the bench and replace Clarke’s finishing skills on offense. His rotation with Clax would provide some insurance against injuries. Kennard is replaceable by Wells and Spencer, Aldama by GG and LRV.

Brooklyn would get a good veteran in Clarke and promising young big (a light version of Lauri) whose age fits the team’s timeline. Both are decent tradeable assets. Clowney, Sharpe, Aldama, and Clarke is a versatile set of legit bigs. Another FRP would allow the team to make a big move when the right time comes.


Why would BKN downgrade like this? What is the payoff?

No players with upside, no good picks.


This isn't that far off the going rate for guys like Claxton (Centers who fall somewhere between 15-20 ranking position-wise). Look at what Claxton's contemporaries have gone for over the past 5 years. Poeltl, Capela, Allen, Adams. The average value these guys are returning is somewhere between the 15th-20th pick. Maybe MEM needs to throw in a 2nd but the value isn't that far off based on recent history. The C market is not strong right now because almost everyone has a "solid" center and the one's that don't are the bottom feeders that don't really have a need for one. If MEM is willing to wait until JAN that could also drive the price down as someone like Poeltl could shake loose and the asking price wouldn't be that high (non-lotto 1st). Maybe they take a flier on RW3 for cheap. I personally don't believe the market for non top 10 C's is all that strong. I will concede that BKN holding Claxton makes sense as his contract is declining and that could up his value for a trade for next off-season (or even the one after). I just don't know if it's ever going to get into guaranteed lotto pick territory.


Poeltl went for a lotto pick.

Can’t imagine why BKN would prefer that handful of mediocrity to Claxton.
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Re: Clax to MEM in January 

Post#17 » by ConSarnit » Fri Oct 18, 2024 5:52 pm

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JRoy wrote:
Why would BKN downgrade like this? What is the payoff?

No players with upside, no good picks.


This isn't that far off the going rate for guys like Claxton (Centers who fall somewhere between 15-20 ranking position-wise). Look at what Claxton's contemporaries have gone for over the past 5 years. Poeltl, Capela, Allen, Adams. The average value these guys are returning is somewhere between the 15th-20th pick. Maybe MEM needs to throw in a 2nd but the value isn't that far off based on recent history. The C market is not strong right now because almost everyone has a "solid" center and the one's that don't are the bottom feeders that don't really have a need for one. If MEM is willing to wait until JAN that could also drive the price down as someone like Poeltl could shake loose and the asking price wouldn't be that high (non-lotto 1st). Maybe they take a flier on RW3 for cheap. I personally don't believe the market for non top 10 C's is all that strong. I will concede that BKN holding Claxton makes sense as his contract is declining and that could up his value for a trade for next off-season (or even the one after). I just don't know if it's ever going to get into guaranteed lotto pick territory.


Poeltl went for a lotto pick.

Can’t imagine why BKN would prefer that handful of mediocrity to Claxton.


And all those other guys went for a pick in the 20's. There were also extenuating circumstances in that Poeltl trade: it was a bad trade by the Raptors and the Raptors were not expecting to give up a pick that high (I would also bet SAS was not expecting to get a top 10 pick out of that trade). If BKN is hoping to repeat that then I say good luck. I also don't know why BKN needs Claxton when they are going to be bad for the next 2-3 years. I'm not saying they should take the MEM deal but it's not far off from what I'd expect they'd actually get. They should ask for more but I don't think they'll get much more, especially from MEM who I assumed drafted Edey to be a starter in the near future. If I were BKN I would target NOP and try to take back McCollum and the surplus assets that would come from that type of deal.
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Re: Clax to MEM in January 

Post#18 » by JRoy » Fri Oct 18, 2024 6:22 pm

ConSarnit wrote:
JRoy wrote:
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This isn't that far off the going rate for guys like Claxton (Centers who fall somewhere between 15-20 ranking position-wise). Look at what Claxton's contemporaries have gone for over the past 5 years. Poeltl, Capela, Allen, Adams. The average value these guys are returning is somewhere between the 15th-20th pick. Maybe MEM needs to throw in a 2nd but the value isn't that far off based on recent history. The C market is not strong right now because almost everyone has a "solid" center and the one's that don't are the bottom feeders that don't really have a need for one. If MEM is willing to wait until JAN that could also drive the price down as someone like Poeltl could shake loose and the asking price wouldn't be that high (non-lotto 1st). Maybe they take a flier on RW3 for cheap. I personally don't believe the market for non top 10 C's is all that strong. I will concede that BKN holding Claxton makes sense as his contract is declining and that could up his value for a trade for next off-season (or even the one after). I just don't know if it's ever going to get into guaranteed lotto pick territory.


Poeltl went for a lotto pick.

Can’t imagine why BKN would prefer that handful of mediocrity to Claxton.


And all those other guys went for a pick in the 20's. There were also extenuating circumstances in that Poeltl trade: it was a bad trade by the Raptors and the Raptors were not expecting to give up a pick that high (I would also bet SAS was not expecting to get a top 10 pick out of that trade). If BKN is hoping to repeat that then I say good luck. I also don't know why BKN needs Claxton when they are going to be bad for the next 2-3 years. I'm not saying they should take the MEM deal but it's not far off from what I'd expect they'd actually get. They should ask for more but I don't think they'll get much more, especially from MEM who I assumed drafted Edey to be a starter in the near future. If I were BKN I would target NOP and try to take back McCollum and the surplus assets that would come from that type of deal.


I can see BKN moving Claxton for assets but I’d expect him to go for more than this.
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Re: Clax to MEM in January 

Post#19 » by babyjax13 » Fri Oct 18, 2024 6:52 pm

I don't really think they need him if Edey continues to look as effective as he has.
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Re: Clax to MEM in January 

Post#20 » by MessiahUjiri » Fri Oct 18, 2024 8:22 pm

esvl wrote:
MessiahUjiri wrote:If Brooklyn thinks this is too cheap for Claxton, Raps will step in and do it for Poeltl. He’s a little less valuable than Clax IMO, but also paid less.


Poeltl is a solid player, but I doubt MEM has any interest in him, to say the least.



He’s the type of player they can get with their tradeable assets. They’re not gonna offer up Edey, and the rest of their assets are very meh.

To say the least, I think this is a classic case of realGM posters overvaluing their non lotto picks.

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