Is Moses Moody an NBA caliber player? HE PULLED A MAGIC TRICK, HES NOT AN NBA PLAYER!!! HES A CHINA LEVEL PLAYER!!!

[Jester_]

Moody is a championship quality 8th man, not a starter.

Nick Kerr's burner spotted

[Jester_]

Except Moody is now attacking the basket and hitting middie pull-ups. Basically JK has nothing on Moody this point. Warriors fans need to get over JK.

Jk can jump high.

JK's finishing could be near elite levels. I dont put much stock into preseason but he looks very under control at the rim. Would like to see it with more contact and see what happens there. More attempts should hopefully thin out some of that questionable decision making

As much as I dont want to throw premium coin at him, what JK does for the team is something no one else can do. Moody can, Wiggins can, but you cant lean on them like you could JK for that stuff

JK can go and get you a bucket when shots aren't falling, which has always been our most glaring weakness that KD hid

Curry-Moody-Wiggs-JK-Dray would be a FILTHY lineup for exactly this reason and it's impossibly frustrating that we aren't running it

at this point my only explanation is that our analytics department works out of a retirement home and Kerr had a lobotomy

[EvanZ]

Moody is a championship quality 8th man, not a starter.

1. You were the guy calling Moody a scrub most of last season.
2. Even you must see the disconnect between someone who you are now saying is an 8th man on a championship quality team, but might be the 11th man on this team.
3. I would argue only Melton has a really good argument for starting ahead of Moody. Moody is easily right now a better option in the starting lineup than Podz or Buddy in my mind.

[clyde21]

Moody hate is uncalled for man

[CDM_Stats]

I love watching that living Geico ad Nick Wright, tough as it is on the eyes sometimes. Because I disagree with almost everything he says and its like looking up an answer key to basketball. There's a couple posters here that make me feel the same way

[EvanZ]

Read on Twitter

Shams says “they really believe Moody can be a rotation player”… raises the question who is “they”? And when? It would be great to think Shams has sources that actually know whether Moody is in the rotation or not. Also seems weird that they’d even want to give an MLE to a guy who is not in a 10-man rotation. I wonder if that’s ever happened. Literally like that’s such a weird thing to do for any normal team.

[GSWFan1994]

Seems like it's the Stotts/Stackhouse effect, talking some sense into Kerr's head.

If we manage to re-sign Moody for anything below 20/year that's a huge win from my point of view.

[EvanZ]

If moody is not in the rotation they should really trade him for a FRP. There’s got to be a team that readily makes that deal. Orlando perhaps.

[wco81]

They're going to want to extend him so that he could be traded if nothing else.

Deni Avdija signed a 4-year $55 million contract a year ago.

He was the #9 pick in 2020 and had averaged around 24-25 MPG, shot about 43/30/72, 8.5 PPG, 5.5 RPG in his first 3 seasons before signing that extension.

Then after signing that extension, he had his best season, 30.1 MPG, 14.7 PPG, 7.2 RPG, 3.8 APG on 50.6/37.4/73.9 shooting.

Then the Wizards traded him to the Blazers.

Could have been his breakout season at age 22.

Even if Deni didn't show big improvement, that contract is very trade-able.

So you bet on retaining the asset for roster flexibility and also hope that Moses can show big improvement.

Moody will probably want more than the Deni extension though.

[DonaldSanders]

I've seen reports of a potential Moses extension around 12-13M. I *really* hope we pull that off, fantastic value and the kind of contract every team needs.

[watch1958]

They're going to want to extend him so that he could be traded if nothing else.

Deni Avdija signed a 4-year $55 million contract a year ago.

He was the #9 pick in 2020 and had averaged around 24-25 MPG, shot about 43/30/72, 8.5 PPG, 5.5 RPG in his first 3 seasons before signing that extension.

Then after signing that extension, he had his best season, 30.1 MPG, 14.7 PPG, 7.2 RPG, 3.8 APG on 50.6/37.4/73.9 shooting.

Then the Wizards traded him to the Blazers.

Could have been his breakout season at age 22.

Even if Deni didn't show big improvement, that contract is very trade-able.

So you bet on retaining the asset for roster flexibility and also hope that Moses can show big improvement.

Moody will probably want more than the Deni extension though.

Does an extension make it harder to trade him this season?

[wco81]

Probably depends on the kind of extension. If they gave him a max extension, probably not too many teams would want that contract, even though Moody is still very young.

[watch1958]

Probably depends on the kind of extension. If they gave him a max extension, probably not too many teams would want that contract, even though Moody is still very young.

Aren’t there some technical penalties for trying to trade someone who just signed an extension? I thought that was an issue with Poole.

[CDM_Stats]

Does an extension make it harder to trade him this season?

Yes, because of base year compensation (BYC), which kicks in if his next year's salary is 20% greater than the prior year. Which is a virtual lock if Moody signs an extension. BYC is a bitch to manage, and I dont know the exact specifics, but a team trading for someone on BYC would have to be able to absorb a lot of salary without sending salary out, which typically limits suitors to teams that have a ton of capspace. That's usually unheard of during the season, so BYC salaries are typically only dealt in S&T deals - but again, super rare

Moody and JK are only really trade candidates if they dont sign extensions, and I believe they have until Monday to work that out

[Crazy-Canuck]

Does an extension make it harder to trade him this season?

Yes, because of base year compensation (BYC), which kicks in if his next year's salary is 20% greater than the prior year. Which is a virtual lock if Moody signs an extension. BYC is a bitch to manage, and I dont know the exact specifics, but a team trading for someone on BYC would have to be able to absorb a lot of salary without sending salary out, which typically limits suitors to teams that have a ton of capspace. That's usually unheard of during the season, so BYC salaries are typically only dealt in S&T deals - but again, super rare

Moody and JK are only really trade candidates if they dont sign extensions, and I believe they have until Monday to work that out

It would be much easier with Moody than jk.

If we trade and extended moody, we could send out about 6M (salary of last year on rookie contract, but the receiving team sounds get hit for 14M (1st year salary of extension).

Jk would be Iike 7.8M for us and like 35M for the receiving team. But we can't take back 35M in contracts.

[SinceGatlingWasARookie]

If I recall correctly those 5 did see time together on the floor last year. The result wasn't particularly notable. But maybe JK and MM improving along with Wiggins having his head on straight might produce a better result this time around.

Those 5 have played 1 total minute of basketball together in the 3 years they have been teammates. Truly insane considering that's the 3 best players and 2 lotto picks that are supposed to extend the dynasty.

The 4 of Steph, Wiggins, Kuminga, Dray played a ton of minutes successfully with any 5th player... a combo guard like Podz, a non defensive shooter like Klay, a non defensive stretch big like Saric.... but no, never gave Moody a go in that spot.

I must have been thinking of another lineup. Thanks for the enlightening correction.

Moody is a championship quality 8th man, not a starter.

The Warriors won a championship with a second year Harrison Barnes at around the same age as Moody as a starter. Can Moses Moody be a 2015 Harrison Barnes level player or better? That is the question. If he can, then that gives a big boost to the possibility of a 2015 or 2022 like championship run.

No. 2015 Harrison Barnes was better than 2024 Moody.
I am not predicting 2026 Moody.

[SinceGatlingWasARookie]

Jk can jump high.

JK's finishing could be near elite levels. I dont put much stock into preseason but he looks very under control at the rim. Would like to see it with more contact and see what happens there. More attempts should hopefully thin out some of that questionable decision making

As much as I dont want to throw premium coin at him, what JK does for the team is something no one else can do. Moody can, Wiggins can, but you cant lean on them like you could JK for that stuff

JK can go and get you a bucket when shots aren't falling, which has always been our most glaring weakness that KD hid

Curry-Moody-Wiggs-JK-Dray would be a FILTHY lineup for exactly this reason and it's impossibly frustrating that we aren't running it

Curry-2016 Klay-Wiggs-JK-Dray would be filthy. I do not Trust Moody to reliably play well.
I do not want to play Dray at center more than 15 minutes per game because I am afraid that Dray will get worn down by being smaller than the other centers.

Moody’s effort is unreliable. Moody basketball IQ is lower than average NBA starting guard.
I need to watch games now to decide which current player is best choice for starting guard next to Curry.

[EvanZ]

Moody is the 12th man. It’s disgusting. I’m probably done with this team.

[cpower]

Moody is the 12th man. It’s disgusting. I’m probably done with this team.

let me count:

3 players are definitely better: Curry, Green, Melton
3 players are on the same level: Kuminga, Podz, Looney
5 players are below: Wiggins, TJD, SlowMo, Hield, GP2

yeah its pretty disgusting.

[EvanZ]

JK's finishing could be near elite levels. I dont put much stock into preseason but he looks very under control at the rim. Would like to see it with more contact and see what happens there. More attempts should hopefully thin out some of that questionable decision making

As much as I dont want to throw premium coin at him, what JK does for the team is something no one else can do. Moody can, Wiggins can, but you cant lean on them like you could JK for that stuff

JK can go and get you a bucket when shots aren't falling, which has always been our most glaring weakness that KD hid

Curry-Moody-Wiggs-JK-Dray would be a FILTHY lineup for exactly this reason and it's impossibly frustrating that we aren't running it

Curry-2016 Klay-Wiggs-JK-Dray would be filthy. I do not Trust Moody to reliably play well.
I do not want to play Dray at center more than 15 minutes per game because I am afraid that Dray will get worn down by being smaller than the other centers.

Moody’s effort is unreliable. Moody basketball IQ is lower than average NBA starting guard.
I need to watch games now to decide which current player is best choice for starting guard next to Curry.

Bro there’s not a single person here who gives a **** about your dumb ass opinions on basketball. Anyone who has ever replied to you has just been humoring you.