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[raferfenix]

“I’m literally excited about the team,” Rivers told The Athletic in an exclusive conversation at the team’s training camp in Irvine, Calif. “I am so f—— engaged. I think we got the right group, I just do. And you know, again, as Bill Belichick said, we’re either going to land this f—— plane or we’re going to have a crash landing.

“And I’m in for that fight.”

As Rivers has revealed during his time with the Bucks, he often spends his offseasons shadowing football coaches to pick up different ideas about the profession and trying to apply those lessons to basketball. One of his favorite applications has been the lens Belichick, the future Pro Football Hall of Famer, used to describe the pressure applied to playoff teams. It essentially states that the stakes are so high for contending teams that you either “land the plane” and win a championship or “you crash the plane” and lose in a spectacular way that draws attention to your work.

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[MickeyDavis]

Rivers wasn't even on my list when Grief was hired and he certainly has flaws. But my God it's great to have an actual NBA coach again.

[jschligs]

Rivers wasn't even on my list when Grief was hired and he certainly has flaws. But my God it's great to have an actual NBA coach again.

He gets a ton of hate but man is he light years better than so many other options.

[Matches Malone]

Griff was such a bad hire, but it was made even worse by Horst/FO not shaping the roster around his system better. We all knew Brook playing in anything other than drop most of the time was a bad idea. If they had a more mobile center instead of Brook or even put Giannis there for bigger stretches, it might have been better. Also, the last-minute trade for Dame when Griff probably could have used Jrue more defensively. But offense was still an issue and Griff probably would have found other ways to fail.

I was team Atkinson, so I'll be paying attention to how Cleveland does this year.

[emunney]

The Bucks haven't lost in the playoffs because of lack of chemistry, they've lost because of injury, and the inability to overcome injury because the remaining players couldn't handle their individual matchups. Brook, Hill and Beasley couldn't handle their man, Grayson, Jrue, and Crowder couldn't score.

The Bucks lost because bully ball is not team ball. Not injuries. That 'style' of play doesn't involve the guys on the floor much, and does zero to invest regular minutes in 6-9 spots, so there's no one polished or developed enough to step in . . . you know, in case someone . . .. gets injured. Imagine an NBA franchise having to deal with injuries. I can, can you? Dismissing playing a balanced game as 'chemistry' isn't honest. 'Injuries, so we woulda won' a) cannot be proven, b) repeating it over and over again doesn't mean we won the title that year (OR would have), and c) it isn't the test for winning championships. The injuries canard gets repeated so often around here that you'd think we actually won TWO titles under Giannis. Instead, the test is whether the next guy up can step into a team role seamlessly enough for the team to remain *functional*. Can't get back to that when you never started there. 'We woulda won if not for injuries' is an excuse and not a respectable or valid claim. Sure, things woulda been different. They weren't. Sure, Crowder, Hood, & Semi weren't silver bullets. But buying magic pieces off the shelf like this is Radio Shack or something never works and isn't winning ball. Their 3pt% doesn't matter before or after injuries hit b/c hating on Forbes or Beasely is weak as hell and evades the issue%. Easier than saying what we're all seeing, and easier than naming the flaws visible to the entire NBA, sure. Whether you like it or not, the whinefest isn't a good look, and that's being charitable; it's just blinding you to what works. Not real deep, lack of cohesion, depending on one guy, if that's what you're looking for in bb, Doc Rivers sees it differently.

I stopped reading after this cause I can't seriously believe anyone typed this out and isn't trolling.

Teams can deal with minor injuries. We lost our best and our 2nd best also got injured. (Hell the fact that they won a single PO game with both out was litterally historic).

Stop trolling or use green font.

The fact you want to pretend the Bucks played bully ball with Giannis out is either a masterfull troll or supreme arrogance



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Nuggets don't know how to play real ball because they can't win without Jokic.

[emunney]

The difference between how Doc talks about this team and how he talked about the 6ers is kind of shocking. He has real confidence in these guys.

[skbucks1985]

I think there's a level of comfort that comes from knowing that if the team fails its going to be because of health and/or they lose to a team that's just better than them. This Bucks team will not have a series like Sixers-Hawks series from 3 years ago or the Sixers-Celtics series from 1 year ago where they were in position to win and their stars disappeared down the stretch.

[PG Graveyard]

It’s still shocking to me how gullible the nba media is. Giannis makes a funny quip about how he may get traded if the Bucks don’t perform and now they are hyperventilating about how this is Giannis slow playing a trade request. Only people more gullible may be political reporters

It’s not them being gullible, it’s them taking a quote out of context purely for clicks/views. They know it’s a meaningless quote, the intent of posting it out of context is to drive engagement.

I don’t think you can rule out gullibility.

[raferfenix]

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[BUCKnation]

While I agree the young talent is massively lacking on this roster, I'm not sure how much we need them without injuries.

Lillard/Wright
Trent, Jr./Wright
Midds/PC
GA/Prince
Lopez/Portis

I definitely see the need for another ball handler, as many have stated. But I do see that bench as upgraded over last year, along with starting SG also being upgraded. We could also use a mobile athletic guy that can play C, but those are hard to find at this stage. I think we are going to see a lot more small lineups this year.

To me, Johnson's role, if he's going to play this year, is as a ball handler and facilitator, not as a scorer. He has shown he's not ready there both mentally and physically. But surprisingly, he has been a solid defender, and the ball handling and speed are evident. He may play just out of necessity in those roles.

I agree with Bern on Livingston. I thought he looked good in SL and has a definite role as a energy/hustle/defender who won't waste usage on offense. Don't know why he played so little in preseason. He's definitely got more to offer than Beauchamp or Smith.

I do think most of the young guys can contribute when surrounded by the main core based on the looks we saw in preseason and last season. They just really suck when its mostly them out there.

[emunney]

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Hope he's over the destructive thrill-seeking **** because he is a legit well-rounded young player. Lots of different ways he could end up good.

[Daver]

Rivers wasn't even on my list when Grief was hired and he certainly has flaws. But my God it's great to have an actual NBA coach again.

Wasnt on anyones list on this boarc i can say after all the hate thrown his way but damn this guy is a vreath of fresh air from his interviews to quotes to now this.I really like this dude if he wins a title here he will be more popular than bud

[Daver]

Rivers wasn't even on my list when Grief was hired and he certainly has flaws. But my God it's great to have an actual NBA coach again.

He gets a ton of hate but man is he light years better than so many other options.

And for a man who really didnt wanna coach agsin dude seems really really happy that quote of his earlier has me do fired up

[Daver]

The difference between how Doc talks about this team and how he talked about the 6ers is kind of shocking. He has real confidence in these guys.

Hes had a say in trent coming here brought back ham who in turn helped the bucks get prince.Delon liked rivers.He has compiled one of if not the best coaching staffs.From what i read alot of players really like rivers.Hes the bucks best recruiter with dame

[KidA24]

Rivers wasn't even on my list when Grief was hired and he certainly has flaws. But my God it's great to have an actual NBA coach again.

Wasnt on anyones list on this boarc i can say after all the hate thrown his way but damn this guy is a vreath of fresh air from his interviews to quotes to now this.I really like this dude if he wins a title here he will be more popular than bud

So traumatized from five months of incompetence that mediocrity excites you.

He failed during the playoffs. Epically.

[ReasonablySober]

Hope he's over the destructive thrill-seeking **** because he is a legit well-rounded young player. Lots of different ways he could end up good.

I'd forgotten what his deal was and had to look it up. In the grand scheme of things stealing some toiletries (many times, apparently) is preferable to other stuff that would get you rightfully kicked out of the league. But still...so weird.

[Daver]

Rivers wasn't even on my list when Grief was hired and he certainly has flaws. But my God it's great to have an actual NBA coach again.

Wasnt on anyones list on this boarc i can say after all the hate thrown his way but damn this guy is a vreath of fresh air from his interviews to quotes to now this.I really like this dude if he wins a title here he will be more popular than bud

So traumatized from five months of incompetence that mediocrity excites you.

He failed during the playoffs. Epically.

Really i know its easy to always blsme a coach rather than some MVP who cant stay healthy at the biggest moments but please tell me how he failed.He played a healthy pacer team without giannis and a 40% dame( im being nice there)like how is this docs fault.Doc isnt perfect no HC is but losing in 5 to a pacer team without gisnnis n 1/2 of dame is not on him

[BUCKnation]

Doc has his issues, but didnt we go through all his playoff exits and his teams werent the favorites for any of the series?

[fansinceforever]

Rivers wasn't even on my list when Grief was hired and he certainly has flaws. But my God it's great to have an actual NBA coach again.

Wasnt on anyones list on this boarc i can say after all the hate thrown his way but damn this guy is a vreath of fresh air from his interviews to quotes to now this.I really like this dude if he wins a title here he will be more popular than bud

So traumatized from five months of incompetence that mediocrity excites you.

He failed during the playoffs. Epically.

It's not even the playoffs for me. The Bucks had relatively good health last regular season but the guys basically played like they didn't GAF. The defense was as bad late in the season as it was early.

I'm willing to wash the slate clean but if those same lazy habits show up early in season again, it'll be hard to pretend that's not who this team is.

Doc got his training camp and an off-season. No more BS.

[Daver]

Wasnt on anyones list on this boarc i can say after all the hate thrown his way but damn this guy is a vreath of fresh air from his interviews to quotes to now this.I really like this dude if he wins a title here he will be more popular than bud

So traumatized from five months of incompetence that mediocrity excites you.

He failed during the playoffs. Epically.

It's not even the playoffs for me. The Bucks had relatively good health last regular season but the guys basically played like they didn't GAF. The defense was as bad late in the season as it was early.

I'm willing to wash the slate clean but if those same lazy habits show up early in season again, it'll be hard to pretend that's not who this team is.

Doc got his training camp and an off-season. No more BS.

Did they have good health midds only played 55 gsmes big 3 played together only 13xs.Doesnt sound like good health to me.
I wanna see a healthy midds wanna see the big 3.5( adding trent) play hopefully 40 plus games together and see if they can dominate like i think they can b4 i judge doc.He came in at a big time disadvantage.
Your right gloves are off this year ...no excuses just have a gut feeling this team will be very very good