Official NBA General Discussion 2023-24 V2.0

[YogurtProducer]

Knecht with 35 points
Aside from JHS and Bronny the Lakers really know how to draft

Do they?

Ball over Tatum is a miss
Ingram over Brown is a miss
Dlo was meh for a #2 - hard to blame in a garbage draft though
Randle at 7 was a great pick

They really just have not made many draft picks in the last decade

[Dalek]

Knecht with 35 points
Aside from JHS and Bronny the Lakers really know how to draft

Do they?

Ball over Tatum is a miss
Ingram over Brown is a miss
Dlo was meh for a #2 - hard to blame in a garbage draft though
Randle at 7 was a great pick

They really just have not made many draft picks in the last decade

Ball and Ingram still yielded them Anthony Davis who is a MVP caliber C so not all bad.

I still love their talent assessment. They found Alex Caruso and Austin Reeves who are both excellent. Reeves turned down a pick to Detroit to go to LA. They typically have the best facilities and trainers for their players because who isn't in LA.

Guys like Max Christie and Talen Horton Tucker were fairly unknown commodities who have has success in the league. THT might have a new home in Chicago.

They also drafted awesome role guys like Ivica Zubac, Josh Hart, Jordan Clarkson and Larry Nance Jr.

I was really hoping for Knecht to fall to Toronto - he was a perfect fit, and a guy who I said could be the ROY this year if he went to a good situation. Not sure if he gets enough shots in LA, but he is was a no brainer where they drafted him.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Knecht is shooting 44 from the field 36 from deep so far and the stock production has to be an anomaly. Not sold on him as a main scoring option on a winning team down the line and not sold on him as a lower USG option on such a team either unless he actually starts producing on the glass and D which would be very surprising. There's such a good sample of his stock production, shooting efficiency and overall D so I can't buy in.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Donovan Clingan 9 offensive rebounds and 17 total reb in only TWENTY MINUTES

holy ****

some people threw him in with walker kessler and he's bitch slapping him

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Clingan now 10 ORB 20 REB 4 AST 4 BLK in 24 mins

**** you masai

[TorontoBarneys]

I almost feel bad for the Clippers at this point.

[UnbelievablyRAW]

I almost feel bad for the Clippers at this point.

If OKC gets a top 5 pick because of the Clippers, I wonder if they take a guy.

I'd probably call Indiana about Mathurin or Portland about Sharpe. Both have a year left before extension, but both have star potential. OKC won't have cap space really in the near future so getting a good young player's restricted rights might be the move

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[artsncrafts]

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Raps should be taking all the salary for all the picks!...I dont know how their cap situation looks.

[ForeverTFC]

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Raps should be taking all the salary for all the picks!...I dont know how their cap situation looks.

It’s pretty much the max space you can have at this point of the season (MLE/10% of the cap). However, the new rules (having to be at 90% of the cap, the MLE being a trade exception) means a lot of teams will have similar flexibility so not sure what the price of the space is at this point.

I have a theory that mid-size expirings will become a hot commodity in the league, but hasn’t played out yet. We’ll see. It’s the only way to move off any deal > the MLE after the offseason under current cap rules.

[HiJiNX]

Knecht is shooting 44 from the field 36 from deep so far and the stock production has to be an anomaly. Not sold on him as a main scoring option on a winning team down the line and not sold on him as a lower USG option on such a team either unless he actually starts producing on the glass and D which would be very surprising. There's such a good sample of his stock production, shooting efficiency and overall D so I can't buy in.

He’s a fourth option or good scorer off the bench imo.

[HiJiNX]

Cavs looking like a play-in team.

[Zeno]

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Raps should be taking all the salary for all the picks!...I dont know how their cap situation looks.

It’s pretty much the max space you can have at this point of the season (MLE/10% of the cap). However, the new rules (having to be at 90% of the cap, the MLE being a trade exception) means a lot of teams will have similar flexibility so not sure what the price of the space is at this point.

I have a theory that mid-size expirings will become a hot commodity in the league, but hasn’t played out yet. We’ll see. It’s the only way to move off any deal > the MLE after the offseason under current cap rules.

While it is true that 17 teams haven't used their full MLE, only 8 teams have 9 or more million under the tax line before hitting the tax. While I think the might be some teams willing to use the MLE as a trade exception, it will likely be a small percentage of teams and usually only a portion of the MLE being used. Interestingly, the teams that have the most flexibility to take on salary under the tax, are the teams that used capspace in Detroit, San Antonio, Utah, Orlando and OKC, so those teams only actually have the smaller room exception(8 million) at their disposal. So it looks like just Houston, Charlotte, Washington and Toronto have 9-10 million to take on before hitting the tax. It is also of course possible for teams to be willing to take on salary up to the 1st apron but I would only think good teams would want to do that, and it would there need to be for upgrades rather than salary dumps.

[bballsparkin]

Knecht is shooting 44 from the field 36 from deep so far and the stock production has to be an anomaly. Not sold on him as a main scoring option on a winning team down the line and not sold on him as a lower USG option on such a team either unless he actually starts producing on the glass and D which would be very surprising. There's such a good sample of his stock production, shooting efficiency and overall D so I can't buy in.

He’s a fourth option or good scorer off the bench imo.

IE: he was a steal! I'm a Laker detractor. But good for them selecting him. I hope the pick is a home run. Dude is a bucket.

edit: I'm in the not a fan of this three point generation camp at all. Knecht's is pretty dope though. Cant lie.

[Los_29]

Knecht with 35 points
Aside from JHS and Bronny the Lakers really know how to draft

Do they?

Ball over Tatum is a miss
Ingram over Brown is a miss
Dlo was meh for a #2 - hard to blame in a garbage draft though
Randle at 7 was a great pick

They really just have not made many draft picks in the last decade

Ball and Ingram still yielded them Anthony Davis who is a MVP caliber C so not all bad.

I still love their talent assessment. They found Alex Caruso and Austin Reeves who are both excellent. Reeves turned down a pick to Detroit to go to LA. They typically have the best facilities and trainers for their players because who isn't in LA.

Guys like Max Christie and Talen Horton Tucker were fairly unknown commodities who have has success in the league. THT might have a new home in Chicago.

They also drafted awesome role guys like Ivica Zubac, Josh Hart, Jordan Clarkson and Larry Nance Jr.

I was really hoping for Knecht to fall to Toronto - he was a perfect fit, and a guy who I said could be the ROY this year if he went to a good situation. Not sure if he gets enough shots in LA, but he is was a no brainer where they drafted him.

AD wanted to go to LA. Any combination of young players would’ve got them AD. Reality is they passed up on considerably better players. Had they drafted better they wouldn’t have even had to trade for AD.

Another terrible pick they had was JHS last year.

They have drafted or signed some undrafted gems though. They are good at finding complimentary players later in the draft.

[Holla]

Have videos of IQ, Gradey, Mogbo, Chomchee and Ochai
In the club

First thoughts, they all tall af except for IQ but I'm 6ft.
They cool tho, asked for a picture from Gradey but he said anywhere else but in the club. Had a short convo with mogbo, IQ, and chomchee, they all cool and down to earth.

[Mattatron]

Knecht with 35 points
Aside from JHS and Bronny the Lakers really know how to draft

Do they?

Ball over Tatum is a miss
Ingram over Brown is a miss
Dlo was meh for a #2 - hard to blame in a garbage draft though
Randle at 7 was a great pick

They really just have not made many draft picks in the last decade

Yupp, trading the draft rights of Jaden McDaniels for Dennis Schroeder was a miss too.

Besides that, drafting a well known shooter is not hard to achieve, knecht was no unknown player. With JJ Redick he's having the right coach.

[Mattatron]

Knecht is shooting 44 from the field 36 from deep so far and the stock production has to be an anomaly. Not sold on him as a main scoring option on a winning team down the line and not sold on him as a lower USG option on such a team either unless he actually starts producing on the glass and D which would be very surprising. There's such a good sample of his stock production, shooting efficiency and overall D so I can't buy in.

He’s a fourth option or good scorer off the bench imo.

Which is better than anything we have on our bench and 2/5 of our starting 5. He's super efficient and don't really need the ball in bis hands to get 14-15 ppg. Unlike Barrett.

Kinda similar to Redicks game with the clippers back then.

[mihaic]

Raps should be taking all the salary for all the picks!...I dont know how their cap situation looks.

It’s pretty much the max space you can have at this point of the season (MLE/10% of the cap). However, the new rules (having to be at 90% of the cap, the MLE being a trade exception) means a lot of teams will have similar flexibility so not sure what the price of the space is at this point.

I have a theory that mid-size expirings will become a hot commodity in the league, but hasn’t played out yet. We’ll see. It’s the only way to move off any deal > the MLE after the offseason under current cap rules.

While it is true that 17 teams haven't used their full MLE, only 8 teams have 9 or more million under the tax line before hitting the tax. While I think the might be some teams willing to use the MLE as a trade exception, it will likely be a small percentage of teams and usually only a portion of the MLE being used. Interestingly, the teams that have the most flexibility to take on salary under the tax, are the teams that used capspace in Detroit, San Antonio, Utah, Orlando and OKC, so those teams only actually have the smaller room exception(8 million) at their disposal. So it looks like just Houston, Charlotte, Washington and Toronto have 9-10 million to take on before hitting the tax. It is also of course possible for teams to be willing to take on salary up to the 1st apron but I would only think good teams would want to do that, and it would there need to be for upgrades rather than salary dumps.

This room exception we still have maybe worth even more before deadline.

Moreover we can use BB or Boucher and use the space with same trade partner.

I think we should hang onto the room for now. Teams may get desperate later and the trade partners might dry out.

[anotherhomer]

Have videos of IQ, Gradey, Mogbo, Chomchee and Ochai
In the club

First thoughts, they all tall af except for IQ but I'm 6ft.
They cool tho, asked for a picture from Gradey but he said anywhere else but in the club. Had a short convo with mogbo, IQ, and chomchee, they all cool and down to earth.

Pretty interesting awareness to say anywhere but the club. Yes I understand