2024-25 Regular Season

[toooskies]

Toughness has been an issue for 3 postseasons in a row. It is also what other fan bases clown our players about.

Not sure coaching can do much about that.

It's disconcerting that Mobley isn't responding to being.fouled like that in his 4th year. Garland's physical limitations are what they are (although I believe he had 5 steals tonight).

Mitchell and Strus are both physical. Allen can be
However, aside from the PED version of TT, we haven't really had a guy who can come on the court and make the officials think about just how far they want to let things go. We still don't have a big who is good at setting an effective screen.

Reportedly, they're going to let teams be more physical this season so it will be good to get it sorted out sooner rather than later.

I think Mobley is just soft.

3 years we've heard "he's gonna be more aggressive" and it lasts for a month or a few games and he just goes back to deferring and letting guys body him.

One thing I've noticed (and maybe this was just a JB thing) but Mobley barely ever attacked mis matches. He would get stood up by smaller stockier players instead of lowering his shoulder and initiating contact

Mobley shouldn't beat smaller stockier players by lowering his shoulder and trying to go through them. He should beat them by getting position inside for a lob.

[JonFromVA]

Toughness has been an issue for 3 postseasons in a row. It is also what other fan bases clown our players about.

Not sure coaching can do much about that.

It's disconcerting that Mobley isn't responding to being.fouled like that in his 4th year. Garland's physical limitations are what they are (although I believe he had 5 steals tonight).

Mitchell and Strus are both physical. Allen can be
However, aside from the PED version of TT, we haven't really had a guy who can come on the court and make the officials think about just how far they want to let things go. We still don't have a big who is good at setting an effective screen.

Reportedly, they're going to let teams be more physical this season so it will be good to get it sorted out sooner rather than later.

I think Mobley is just soft.

3 years we've heard "he's gonna be more aggressive" and it lasts for a month or a few games and he just goes back to deferring and letting guys body him.

One thing I've noticed (and maybe this was just a JB thing) but Mobley barely ever attacked mis matches. He would get stood up by smaller stockier players instead of lowering his shoulder and initiating contact

What surprises me is Evan is still listed at 215. He looked toned. Isn't muscle supposed to weight more?

Expecting Evan to push people around in the paint at 215 is kind of like expecting Strus (also listed at 215) to push PF's and C's around in the paint, except Max he has a lower center of gravity and presumably more leverage.

I would have expected him to be up to at least 230 this far in to his career...

[jbk1234]

It's disconcerting that Mobley isn't responding to being.fouled like that in his 4th year. Garland's physical limitations are what they are (although I believe he had 5 steals tonight).

Mitchell and Strus are both physical. Allen can be
However, aside from the PED version of TT, we haven't really had a guy who can come on the court and make the officials think about just how far they want to let things go. We still don't have a big who is good at setting an effective screen.

Reportedly, they're going to let teams be more physical this season so it will be good to get it sorted out sooner rather than later.

I think Mobley is just soft.

3 years we've heard "he's gonna be more aggressive" and it lasts for a month or a few games and he just goes back to deferring and letting guys body him.

One thing I've noticed (and maybe this was just a JB thing) but Mobley barely ever attacked mis matches. He would get stood up by smaller stockier players instead of lowering his shoulder and initiating contact

What surprises me is Evan is still listed at 215. He looked toned. Isn't muscle supposed to weight more?

Expecting Evan to push people around in the paint at 215 is kind of like expecting Strus (also listed at 215) to push PF's and C's around in the paint, except Max he has a lower center of gravity and presumably more leverage.

I would have expected him to be up to at least 230 this far in to his career...

If he's getting shoved with the ball in his hands, he's either got to shove back, or sell the contact. Right now, he's operating at a competitive disadvantage.

[JujitsuFlip]

I think Mobley is just soft.

3 years we've heard "he's gonna be more aggressive" and it lasts for a month or a few games and he just goes back to deferring and letting guys body him.

One thing I've noticed (and maybe this was just a JB thing) but Mobley barely ever attacked mis matches. He would get stood up by smaller stockier players instead of lowering his shoulder and initiating contact

What surprises me is Evan is still listed at 215. He looked toned. Isn't muscle supposed to weight more?

Expecting Evan to push people around in the paint at 215 is kind of like expecting Strus (also listed at 215) to push PF's and C's around in the paint, except Max he has a lower center of gravity and presumably more leverage.

I would have expected him to be up to at least 230 this far in to his career...

If he's getting shoved with the ball in his hands, he's either got to shove back, or sell the contact. Right now, he's operating at a competitive disadvantage.

Similar to Okoro, i think Mobley kind of is what he is, in that regard.

We just have a team full of nice guys which when they step on the court means they get pushed around.

[jbk1234]

What surprises me is Evan is still listed at 215. He looked toned. Isn't muscle supposed to weight more?

Expecting Evan to push people around in the paint at 215 is kind of like expecting Strus (also listed at 215) to push PF's and C's around in the paint, except Max he has a lower center of gravity and presumably more leverage.

I would have expected him to be up to at least 230 this far in to his career...

If he's getting shoved with the ball in his hands, he's either got to shove back, or sell the contact. Right now, he's operating at a competitive disadvantage.

Similar to Okoro, i think Mobley kind of is what he is, in that regard.

We just have a team full of nice guys which when they step on the court means they get pushed around.

As a general rule, big men take longer to develop and Mobley is only in his 4th season. While it does appear that he worked on his shot this off-season, he's still got some work to do in terms of the other team getting physical with him.

[JonFromVA]

If he's getting shoved with the ball in his hands, he's either got to shove back, or sell the contact. Right now, he's operating at a competitive disadvantage.

Similar to Okoro, i think Mobley kind of is what he is, in that regard.

We just have a team full of nice guys which when they step on the court means they get pushed around.

As a general rule, big men take longer to develop and Mobley is only in his 4th season. While it does appear that he worked on his shot this off-season, he's still got some work to do in terms of the other team getting physical with him.

Maybe they don't want him to bulk up?

fwiw, Chet Holmgren is listed at 208 same weight as he was last season. Maybe the nba just hasn't updated the weights?

[JujitsuFlip]

If he's getting shoved with the ball in his hands, he's either got to shove back, or sell the contact. Right now, he's operating at a competitive disadvantage.

Similar to Okoro, i think Mobley kind of is what he is, in that regard.

We just have a team full of nice guys which when they step on the court means they get pushed around.

As a general rule, big men take longer to develop and Mobley is only in his 4th season. While it does appear that he worked on his shot this off-season, he's still got some work to do in terms of the other team getting physical with him.

Idk if teaching someone to be tough/physical is a thing. It's a switch, some people have and others don't.

Some people are naturally agressive so it carries over easily. Some people like Pat Bev or even Lattner are just irritants on the court.

[jbk1234]

Similar to Okoro, i think Mobley kind of is what he is, in that regard.

We just have a team full of nice guys which when they step on the court means they get pushed around.

As a general rule, big men take longer to develop and Mobley is only in his 4th season. While it does appear that he worked on his shot this off-season, he's still got some work to do in terms of the other team getting physical with him.

Maybe they don't want him to bulk up?

fwiw, Chet Holmgren is listed at 208 same weight as he was last season. Maybe the nba just hasn't updated the weights?

He doesn't need to bulk up to leverage the strength he has. He's got lean back or attempt to play through the contact or flail when he gets hit, or the Cavs still need a guy who can come in, do his own shoving, and make the officials decide how physical they want the game to get.

[JujitsuFlip]

Wade with the start at SF tn.

[mcfly1204]

Haven't been watching, but Mobley with 6 assists in 22 minutes? Interesting.

[JujitsuFlip]

Haven't been watching, but Mobley with 6 assists in 22 minutes? Interesting.

You're telling me he may have figured out the Draymond role?

[JujitsuFlip]

Does going winless in the preseason mean anything? lol

[jbk1234]

Mitchell has low key shot poorly this preseason.

[ijspeelman]

Does going winless in the preseason mean anything? lol

Nah, basically no correlation between pre-season record and regular season record.

However, our starting line-up didn't do that well against the pre-season opponents which may mean something. Hopefully not tho. I will hold my judgements until the regular season.

[JujitsuFlip]

Mitchell has low key shot poorly this preseason.

17 of 42 from the field (7 of 18 from deep).
6 of 10 from the charity stripe.

Yeah, he did struggle in those 3 games.

Probably be around Christmas before we really know what this team is.

[JonFromVA]

I thought Wade played well, not much else good to say. Garland finally started sinking some shots at the end, but it wasn't enough to lift our Core 4 + LeVert over the Bulls bench.

[JujitsuFlip]

Well that sucks, lose the starting SF before game 1 even tips. What a blow.

Guess we'll see if Kenny is still thinking he can play 11 guys per night.

6 weeks will be right around Thanksgiving.

[JonFromVA]

Well that sucks, lose the starting SF before game 1 even tips. What a blow.

And so it begins....

[JujitsuFlip]

Well that sucks, lose the starting SF before game 1 even tips. What a blow.

And so it begins....

I just wanna see the team be healthy for once. Every year it's something.

I wish Strus a speedy recovery.

[toooskies]

A six-week sprain in a workout is pretty rough. But maybe we've learned a bit from the Jerome/Windler sprains to start taking these things more seriously.