NBA Expansion

Post #761 » by **zimpy27** » Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:46 pm

Clemenza wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:Real answer should be San Jose since that region has a lot of wealth (look at how successful GSW have been).

Mexico City makes a strong case too.

Of those listed I'd go with Las Vegas

Come on man, SJ is Warriors territory

It isn't and a lot of silicon valley are transplants. You'd be able to pick up wealthy fans from across the world looking to be part of something for 5-10 years.

Warriors got San Fran and Oakland. But silicon valley and San Jose is still up for grabs.

wegotthabeet · Post #762 » by **wegotthabeet** » Thu Jul 18, 2024 7:06 pm

SkyBill40 wrote:
wegotthabeet wrote:
SkyBill40 wrote:LMAO. Uh, sure.

Don't even try that crap with me. There's a difference between what happened with the Grizzlies and the Sonics. The only similarity is that both teams were relocated.

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yeah the difference was one team was set up to fail with highly restrictive stipulations of expansion and the other wasn't. one team had a chance to stay, but the public would not fund the arena, the other had a perfectly suitable arena. they even averaged more fans than the place they moved to. the Vancouver Grizzlies averaged more fans per game in 6 years despite knowing the team was a going to relocate than the Memphis Grizzlies did in their first 12 seasons.

don't give me this bs about the fan support not being there in the 90s. it was there. Vancouver has only grown in population and wealth since then.

okc also averaged way more fans than the Sonics. so when you say the team wasn't really supported and therefore relocated as a result that is completely disingenuous. it shows your ignorance.

Admittedly, I'm not as fully up on the Grizzlies when they were in Vancouver as you may be; however, don't come at me like I'm clueless as to what happened with my Sonics. That shows YOUR ignorance. And saying that the public failed to support a new arena in Seattle as the reason they moved is an overly simplistic and not wholly true assertion. It goes much further than that, but you're not a Sonics fan, so there's that.

Regardless, I said what I said: I don't personally think VAN will be reconsidered before a new location would be; however, Silver doesn't seem to have any clue on where to go and the league has been waffling about expanding for more than a decade now.

yeah that's fair. after Seattle and Vegas the North American market becomes pretty saturated. you could argue it already is even without those two cities.

Clemenza · Post #763 » by **Clemenza** » Thu Jul 18, 2024 7:19 pm

zimpy27 wrote:
Clemenza wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:Real answer should be San Jose since that region has a lot of wealth (look at how successful GSW have been).

Mexico City makes a strong case too.

Of those listed I'd go with Las Vegas

Come on man, SJ is Warriors territory

It isn't and a lot of silicon valley are transplants. You'd be able to pick up wealthy fans from across the world looking to be part of something for 5-10 years.

Warriors got San Fran and Oakland. But silicon valley and San Jose is still up for grabs.

Respectfully this is never happening

LakerLegend · Post #764 » by **LakerLegend** » Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:10 pm

nomansland wrote:
LakerLegend wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/276738/NBA-Plans-To-Explore-Expansion-In-Earnest-In-Fall

Once again, I'll believe it when I see it. He basically says there's little financial motivation for the other owners and they *just* signed a new media deal. Having more markets should be a bargaining chip, and exploring expansion after the deal seems like they're doing it in reverse order.

No, he’s just saying that he can’t technically guarantee they’re expanding before the due diligence process is complete. Everything else we’ve heard indicates it’s most likely happening.

Wizop · Post #765 » by **Wizop** » Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:37 pm

Seattle and Vancouver are two close together to both have franchises. It might be possible though to award a shared franchise that would play half its home games in each city.

SkyBill40 · Post #766 » by **SkyBill40** » Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:50 pm

Wizop wrote:Seattle and Vancouver are two close together to both have franchises. It might be possible though to award a shared franchise that would play half its home games in each city.

nomansland · Post #767 » by **nomansland** » Fri Jul 19, 2024 7:01 pm

Wizop wrote:Seattle and Vancouver are two close together to both have franchises. It might be possible though to award a shared franchise that would play half its home games in each city.

Too close like Indianapolis and Chicago? Sacramento and Oakland? LA and LA? Manhattan and Brooklyn? Philly and D.C.? Seattle and Portland?

Come on man. This is not the argument you're looking for.

Post #768 » by **Cactus Jack** » Fri Jul 19, 2024 7:09 pm

Wizop wrote:Seattle and Vancouver are two close together to both have franchises. It might be possible though to award a shared franchise that would play half its home games in each city.

The distance/commute isn't much different than say Indianapolis to Chicago. Philly & New York are closer in proximity to each other.

Wizop · Post #769 » by **Wizop** » Fri Jul 19, 2024 7:13 pm

nomansland wrote:This is not the argument you're looking for.

not looking for any argument. just stating my personal belief.

Dominator83 · Post #770 » by **Dominator83** » Sat Jul 20, 2024 5:30 am

Kiss of Death wrote:The NBA needs expansion sooner than later.
NBA level players aren't making rosters.

Not in a rush to have the lottery expanded to 16 teams

LakerLegend · Post #771 » by **LakerLegend** » Sat Jul 20, 2024 8:35 am

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/276771/NBAs-Vegas-Franchise-Could-Have-Total-Expansion-Fee-Arena-Cost-Of-$7-Billion

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/276772/Owners-Of-NHLs-Kraken-Considered-Heavy-Favorites-To-Be-Awarded-Seattles-NBA-Franchise

LakerLegend · Post #772 » by **LakerLegend** » Sat Jul 20, 2024 5:31 pm

Has there been any word as to whether the size of the new TV deal includes language that it's predicated on two additional teams and all of the extra games they bring?

LakerLegend · Post #773 » by **LakerLegend** » Thu Sep 19, 2024 6:50 am

Expansion Primer:

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/41286389/nba-expansion-cities-draft-teams-leagues-line

Ruma85 · Post #774 » by **Ruma85** » Thu Sep 19, 2024 8:02 am

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https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/41300098/what-nba-expansion-draft-look-future

LakerLegend · Post #775 » by **LakerLegend** » Mon Sep 30, 2024 4:20 am

https://www.si.com/nba/draft/newsfeed/sam-presti-discusses-nba-expansion-hints-at-possible-rule-changes

LakerLegend · Post #776 » by **LakerLegend** » Sun Oct 20, 2024 5:54 pm

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/mlb/boston-red-sox/news/red-sox-owner-looking-acquire-nba-expansion-team-las-vegas/70efcb0aeb0e6da17bed764e

Post #777 » by **kdawg32086** » Sun Oct 20, 2024 6:10 pm

I'm in the camp of Seattle and Vancouver. Would be a great I-5 rivalry between those teams and the Blazers.

Post #778 » by **Jamaaliver** » Thu Oct 24, 2024 7:20 pm

Vancouver?!?

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BigGargamel · Post #779 » by **BigGargamel** » Thu Oct 24, 2024 7:39 pm

Screw it. Add 6 teams. Have 6 divisions of 6 teams each. Go crazy. The new CBA will mean that more and more mid level players will be screwed out of jobs. Let them gobble up those additional roster spots.

Let's go nuts

East

New York
Brooklyn
Toronto
Philadelphia
Washington
Pittsburgh

Miami
Orlando
Charlotte
Atlanta
Louisville
New Orleans

Chicago
Minnesota
Milwaukee
Cleveland
Detroit
Kansas City

West

Vancouver
Seattle
Portland
Utah
Denver
Oklahoma City

LA Lakers
LA Clippers
Sacramento
Golden State
San Deigo
Las Vegas

Houston
San Antonio
Dallas
Mexico City
Memphis
Phoenix

Wizop · Post #780 » by **Wizop** » Thu Oct 24, 2024 7:49 pm

BigGargamel wrote:Screw it. Add 6 teams. Have 6 divisions of 6 teams each. Go crazy. The new CBA will mean that more and more mid level players will be screwed out of jobs. Let them gobble up those additional roster spots.

Let's go nuts

East

New York
Brooklyn
Toronto
Philadelphia
Washington
Pittsburgh < BOSTON

Miami
Orlando
Charlotte
Atlanta
Louisville < MEMPHIS
New Orleans

Chicago
Minnesota
Milwaukee
Cleveland
Detroit
Kansas City < INDIANA

Where should the league expand with Seattle?