2024 49ers Season

[Harry Palmer]

What do you guys make of this ‘Deebo on the trading block’ stuff?

Is it based on an assumption we’re folding the tents? Just bean counters anticipating Brock’s new deal? Or are we supposedly moving him to try and improve somehow?

[thesack12]

What do you guys make of this ‘Deebo on the trading block’ stuff?

Is it based on an assumption we’re folding the tents? Just bean counters anticipating Brock’s new deal? Or are we supposedly moving him to try and improve somehow?

At this current point in time, I believe its just speculation if we are talking about trade deadline stuff. The Deebo trade rumors started the day Pearsall was drafted. With Ricky now set to get on the field, the chatter has picked back up again. With Jennings elevating his play this season, and also fresh off a long term extension, that has only fueled to Deebo trade chatter. Not that Pearsall or Jennings have the same skillsets that Deebo does, but you can only have so many WR's on the field at a time. So with Deebo's price, an the QB about to get substantially more expensive, people are connecting the theoretical dots.

I could definitely see a potential Deebo trade this offseason, but right now it would be quite counter productive. 9ers are currently leading the division, and even if they have rough couple next weeks and go into the bye week like a lamb, the division will remain very winnable. All the other teams are quite flawed, and despite how awful the games against LA and Zona ended, they still have a chance to even the season series with them and get the division record to 4-2, which would help tremendously in tie breaker situations.

It just doesn't make sense to trade away one of the more dynamic offensive pieces who also an incredibly versatile chess piece. We've also seen how much Kyle struggles to scheme without having Deebo on the field. While any eventualy trade would still see this problem arise, but an offseason trade would give Kyle plenty of time to redesign the playbook without Deebo in the equation. Doing that midseason would be pretty difficult.

The only way a mid-season Deebo trade could work would be if you could get a high end OT or a high end pass rusher in return. Which won't happen for 2 reasons. 1) Those other 2 positions hold a lot more value than WR. 2) If a team is making a move for Deebo, they are obviously doing that with the intention to make a run this season. Where giving up an good OT or Pass rusher weakens them at a crucial area. It would be counter-productive to make that kind of move.

[wco81]

Deebo had a big game the last game, or at least a big play.

Team is only 3-3 so I don't think they're worrying about salary cap management down the line right now.

[49er4life1979]

Deebo had a big game the last game, or at least a big play.

Team is only 3-3 so I don't think they're worrying about salary cap management down the line right now.

Probably not going to happen now with Aiyuk likely done for the season. But I can see them moving Deebo in the offseason for cap room. Will also likely get rid our Hargrave and Juszczyk.

[thesack12]

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This certainly sucks. But Aiyuk has been much more of a detriment than an asset this season, so it could be worse. The worst ripple effect of this might be now Ronnie Bell not only will keep his roster spot but he's probably going to actually see more snaps now. Gross

Hopefully Jennings can continue his ascension, and Pearsall/Cowing start to emerge.

[49er4life1979]

Just in, tests confirmed Aiyuk tore ACL. Bummer for sure. Part of me says I really like our wideouts - Deebo, Jennings, Ricky, and Cowing. I really do. But with Deebo's injury history and the rooks still unproven, maybe go get a vet WR. Dionate Johnson from Carolina would be good I think, and he's not that expensive either. Not sure how I feel about DeAndre Hopkins at this point. Tee Higgins would be good too. What do you guys think?

[CrimsonCrew]

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This certainly sucks. But Aiyuk has been much more of a detriment than an asset this season, so it could be worse. The worst ripple effect of this might be now Ronnie Bell not only will keep his roster spot but he's probably going to actually see more snaps now. Gross

Hopefully Jennings can continue his ascension, and Pearsall/Cowing start to emerge.

I don't know if that's true. If nothing else, he draws coverage attention. Without him to at least threaten the deeper part of the field, this offense could bog down big-time. It could be back to the days of Jimmy throwing everything within 10 yards of the LOS.

They desperately need something from Cowing and Pearsall.

[CrimsonCrew]

Just in, tests confirmed Aiyuk tore ACL. Bummer for sure. Part of me says I really like our wideouts - Deebo, Jennings, Ricky, and Cowing. I really do. But with Deebo's injury history and the rooks still unproven, maybe go get a vet WR. Dionate Johnson from Carolina would be good I think, and he's not that expensive either. Not sure how I feel about DeAndre Hopkins at this point. Tee Higgins would be good too. What do you guys think?

At 3-4, I wouldn't be looking at approaching this trade deadline as buyers. We're still in okay shape to win the division - only because everyone else sucks, too - but it's really hard to envision this team making a legit SB run.

[49er4life1979]

Just in, tests confirmed Aiyuk tore ACL. Bummer for sure. Part of me says I really like our wideouts - Deebo, Jennings, Ricky, and Cowing. I really do. But with Deebo's injury history and the rooks still unproven, maybe go get a vet WR. Dionate Johnson from Carolina would be good I think, and he's not that expensive either. Not sure how I feel about DeAndre Hopkins at this point. Tee Higgins would be good too. What do you guys think?

At 3-4, I wouldn't be looking at approaching this trade deadline as buyers. We're still in okay shape to win the division - only because everyone else sucks, too - but it's really hard to envision this team making a legit SB run.

Fair enough. CMC will also be coming back and hopefully producing although I am sure not on last year's level but solid. Since our division is easy, maybe this is all we need. And if we are healthy and in the playoffs nobody will want to play us.

[thesack12]

Just in, tests confirmed Aiyuk tore ACL. Bummer for sure. Part of me says I really like our wideouts - Deebo, Jennings, Ricky, and Cowing. I really do. But with Deebo's injury history and the rooks still unproven, maybe go get a vet WR. Dionate Johnson from Carolina would be good I think, and he's not that expensive either. Not sure how I feel about DeAndre Hopkins at this point. Tee Higgins would be good too. What do you guys think?

I really hope they aren't lurking in the WR trade market. They have so many other issues, and even without Aiyuk, WR should not be high on the priority list. You just drafted a WR in the 1st round, figure out how to get him involved. Put in different words, they should not be burning additional resources on WR's.

Its not this team is looking especially primed to make a run this year either. Just fight it out with what you have in the WR room.

[thesack12]

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This certainly sucks. But Aiyuk has been much more of a detriment than an asset this season, so it could be worse. The worst ripple effect of this might be now Ronnie Bell not only will keep his roster spot but he's probably going to actually see more snaps now. Gross

Hopefully Jennings can continue his ascension, and Pearsall/Cowing start to emerge.

I don't know if that's true. If nothing else, he draws coverage attention. Without him to at least threaten the deeper part of the field, this offense could bog down big-time. It could be back to the days of Jimmy throwing everything within 10 yards of the LOS.

They desperately need something from Cowing and Pearsall.

Yeah there is something to be said for Defenses having to roll coverages over to Aiyuk. But man, that guy just wasn't him this season. He committed several game changing drops. And just generally seemed out of sync. He didn't really show much hunger or energy out there.

I'm hoping that since Cowing is now on tape showing the ability to get open behind a good defense, maybe that will allow him to run some clear out type routes and maybe open some things up. Perhaps might even be able to hit him on a couple of them to keep defenses honest.

[Pattersonca65]

Deebo had a big game the last game, or at least a big play.

Team is only 3-3 so I don't think they're worrying about salary cap management down the line right now.

Probably not going to happen now with Aiyuk likely done for the season. But I can see them moving Deebo in the offseason for cap room. Will also likely get rid our Hargrave and Juszczyk.

Hargrave would be a big cap hit this offseason with little cap savings if he is cut after June 1. He probably gets one more year. Deeblo looks the same after this season

[49er4life1979]

Just in, tests confirmed Aiyuk tore ACL. Bummer for sure. Part of me says I really like our wideouts - Deebo, Jennings, Ricky, and Cowing. I really do. But with Deebo's injury history and the rooks still unproven, maybe go get a vet WR. Dionate Johnson from Carolina would be good I think, and he's not that expensive either. Not sure how I feel about DeAndre Hopkins at this point. Tee Higgins would be good too. What do you guys think?

I really hope they aren't lurking in the WR trade market. They have so many other issues, and even without Aiyuk, WR should not be high on the priority list. You just drafted a WR in the 1st round, figure out how to get him involved. Put in different words, they should not be burning additional resources on WR's.

Its not this team is looking especially primed to make a run this year either. Just fight it out with what you have in the WR room.

I hear ya. I am just worried that we are one Deebo soft tissue injury away from more Ronnie Bell.

[thesack12]

Deebo had a big game the last game, or at least a big play.

Team is only 3-3 so I don't think they're worrying about salary cap management down the line right now.

Probably not going to happen now with Aiyuk likely done for the season. But I can see them moving Deebo in the offseason for cap room. Will also likely get rid our Hargrave and Juszczyk.

Hargrave would be a big cap hit this offseason with little cap savings if he is cut after June 1. He probably gets one more year. Deeblo looks the same after this season

Was not a fan of the Hargrave signing from the jump. I have yet to see anything to change my mind on that.

He hasn't been terrible or anything, and the injury this season sure didn't help. He's a solid player, but he's getting paid like game wrecking type of talent. He's just not that guy. Also giving that big of a contract to a guy over 30 is always a risky proposition.

Hargrave has not provided a whole lot more than the bargain type of pickups like Omenihu, Jordan Willis, Arden Key, Kerry Hyder, Dion Jordan, DJ Jones, etc. Hell even the Maliek Collins pickup is working out a lot better.

I realize that Hargrave is a better player than other guys, and some of them are DE's, but you get the point. The bang for the buck just hasn't been in proportion with Hargrave.

[Pattersonca65]

Probably not going to happen now with Aiyuk likely done for the season. But I can see them moving Deebo in the offseason for cap room. Will also likely get rid our Hargrave and Juszczyk.

Hargrave would be a big cap hit this offseason with little cap savings if he is cut after June 1. He probably gets one more year. Deeblo looks the same after this season

Was not a fan of the Hargrave signing from the jump. I have yet to see anything to change my mind on that.

He hasn't been terrible or anything, and the injury this season sure didn't help. He's a solid player, but he's getting paid like game wrecking type of talent. He's just not that guy. Also giving that big of a contract to a guy over 30 is always a risky proposition.

That is understandable but if there is no cap savings in releasing him and no team is going to want to take on that contract then might as well keep him. He was actually playing better than I thought he was this season but not worth the contract he has.

[thesack12]

Hargrave would be a big cap hit this offseason with little cap savings if he is cut after June 1. He probably gets one more year. Deeblo looks the same after this season

Was not a fan of the Hargrave signing from the jump. I have yet to see anything to change my mind on that.

He hasn't been terrible or anything, and the injury this season sure didn't help. He's a solid player, but he's getting paid like game wrecking type of talent. He's just not that guy. Also giving that big of a contract to a guy over 30 is always a risky proposition.

That is understandable but if there is no cap savings in releasing him and no team is going to want to take on that contract then might as well keep him. He was actually playing better than I thought he was this season but not worth the contract he has.

For sure, I certainly agree.

Its one of those you made your bed, so you have to lie in it type of things

[thesack12]

Just in, tests confirmed Aiyuk tore ACL. Bummer for sure. Part of me says I really like our wideouts - Deebo, Jennings, Ricky, and Cowing. I really do. But with Deebo's injury history and the rooks still unproven, maybe go get a vet WR. Dionate Johnson from Carolina would be good I think, and he's not that expensive either. Not sure how I feel about DeAndre Hopkins at this point. Tee Higgins would be good too. What do you guys think?

I really hope they aren't lurking in the WR trade market. They have so many other issues, and even without Aiyuk, WR should not be high on the priority list. You just drafted a WR in the 1st round, figure out how to get him involved. Put in different words, they should not be burning additional resources on WR's.

Its not this team is looking especially primed to make a run this year either. Just fight it out with what you have in the WR room.

I hear ya. I am just worried that we are one Deebo soft tissue injury away from more Ronnie Bell.

I'm absolutely on the no more Ronnie Bell train. I have no idea why Kyle can't pull that plug.

Conley is much better than Bell. Honestly it wouldn't be all that difficult to pick up somebody off the streets with 0 knowledge of the playbook, who would be a better option than Bell.

[RIPskaterdude]

Wow, ACL and MCL. This contract is going to doom the team

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[arich35]

Cowing got two chances yesterday and succeeded both times, he needs to get more snaps, he can actually extend the defense

[CrimsonCrew]

Just in, tests confirmed Aiyuk tore ACL. Bummer for sure. Part of me says I really like our wideouts - Deebo, Jennings, Ricky, and Cowing. I really do. But with Deebo's injury history and the rooks still unproven, maybe go get a vet WR. Dionate Johnson from Carolina would be good I think, and he's not that expensive either. Not sure how I feel about DeAndre Hopkins at this point. Tee Higgins would be good too. What do you guys think?

At 3-4, I wouldn't be looking at approaching this trade deadline as buyers. We're still in okay shape to win the division - only because everyone else sucks, too - but it's really hard to envision this team making a legit SB run.

Fair enough. CMC will also be coming back and hopefully producing although I am sure not on last year's level but solid. Since our division is easy, maybe this is all we need. And if we are healthy and in the playoffs nobody will want to play us.

If the D and STs can't get it together - obviously the offense needs to, too, but in this hypo we're improving as players return - I don't think it will matter.

For those who said the D played alright yesterday, KC had Kareem Hunt at RB, Kelce at TE, and a bunch of nobodies at every other skill position. With a healthier roster, they came into the game 29th in red zone TD rate. And we allowed 4/5 red zone TDs, couldn't force punts, etc. Offense was awful due to the turnovers, but D is a problem. And of course STs allowed another momentum-shifting return.